Efficiency or Fun?
Me personally i prefer efficiency skipping everything i can making it as fast as possible is a personal challenge for me, but it always helps to know the right way of doing it and these videos help learning it the right way great.
When it comes to dungeon videos, I’d prefer them to be as close to the real experience as possible so I’d prefer with mob skipping.
[CDS] Caedas
Sanctum of Rall
I find efficiency fun. I also enjoy good storylines. That said, if a storyline isn’t compelling enough I won’t do it unless it happens to be part of the most efficient way to play.
Norn Guardian – Aurora Lustyr (Lv 80)
Mia A Shadows Glow – Human Thief (Lv 80)
Hey guys, just noticed this link about my earlier post that was moved. Thanks for the feedback so far! We don’t show the storyline in our videos, we do skip the cinematics just to ensure the videos don’t run to long, but we do kill all the mobs we come across.
We do of course want to be efficient in our runs, which we do try to show, but at the same time we find that killing every creature in our path to be enjoyable, and the utilization of bugs is not.
Please keep the feedback coming! Ill forward this thread to my guildies that are helping us so we can get more feedback. Thanks
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I prefer fun to efficiency, but I’m sure that surprises few people here.
I are noob, so watching a full video helps a lot.
I never have cared about the story so I skip cinematics, but getting experience and slaughtering mobs wholesale is what the game’s all about.
Efficiency is undoubtedly good, but fun is the the point of playing anything. That, and riches and women. Those extras being rather far-off, I’ll be content with fun.
Sho me mo!
I have the most fun with a frustratingly difficult game. I like extreme consequences when I make a mistake (dark souls masochist here haha!), when I think about efficiency in a game like guild wars, I think about how highly I would value the reward if I do it the “faster” way compared to the more accomplished method.
Long story short, I’d rather play and experience a designed dungeon, suspending my knowledge of exploits and receive my tokens for completion.
I would like to pose this question: would you still run the dungeon if they gave you a chest with some loot and the tokens right when you entered? If yes why? If no, how much of a payoff would you feel with that instant reward?
Definitely fun for me. It’s a game – if you don’t enjoy yourself, what’s the point?
To Reagle, I’d respond that, yes, I would do the dungeon because it’s the wholesale slaughter of mobs and the crazy mechanics that I enjoy, not the random loot, because lets face it, smashing loot into the ground isn’t quite as satisfying as smashing its carriers.
I prefer efficient fun. If I do something with no regard whatsoever for efficiency it’s not much fun for me. But, I really don’t think of efficiency in terms of an overarching goal in my gameplay. Rather, I come to efficiency through fun.
Efficiency = Fun. Imho.
I would rather play through dungeons like they were meant to be rather than try and cut corners.
Fun is more efficient than efficiency.
There’s nothing wrong with efficiency, but exploits are no fun for me. :/
Also these need not be mutually exclusive. While to some having fun goes above and beyond efficiency, some people have fun being “efficient” (and again, I don’t care, though often it does involve exploits, thus I can’t relate to the “fun” part if one is doing things fast due to those.) And of course, there are “efficient” ways of doing everything in a Dungeon too, without skipping.
I rather not skip stuff if it was up to me, but I don’t make a fuss if someone wants to skip something, unless he/she is the “quitter” type if things are not done his/her way.
I’m going to agree with a bunch of points that are brought up here.
Both gameplay styles are valid. Both can be considered fun depending on the person and their own preferences. I’m happy playing both ways but am more happy when going through everything possible (pretty much the same as Star Ace, would rather not skip but will if the group wants it). However I highly dislike bugs, nothing was less fun for me than running Honor of the Waves and standing in a wall for the final boss fight.
For the sake of the walkthroughs Soupas quoted us on though, we felt showing and experiencing everything a dungeon has to offer is the best way to do it. This way its up to the viewer to decide on what they do with that information .
Personally, I do it without help until and unless I spend more than 10 minutes trying to puzzle it out, then I look for a cheat. On the one hand, it definitely is more fun discovering things for yourself, on the other hand, life’s too short to spend too much of it being stuck on a videogame puzzle.
Myself I am like guru. I like to figure things out for myself. But since I am new to the game I like to be as informed as I can be. So for the sake of other players I like to watch videos and learn as much as I can before going into a dungeon. I like that I get to see everything, trash, bosses, switches. I have watched many walkthroughs before where they skip the trash, then the trash kills me only to find out that there is something that the trash mob does that I needed to know.
Know when it comes down to do it. After I have done the dungeon a few times although it may be fun for me. I just want to get through it, so I don’t mind skipping mobs at that point.
Fun. I have only watched a couple of videos and they were to find that last POI I could not figure out how to get to. I have read a few build guides but mostly to get an idea of what potential my characters could have.
I like figuring things out on my own and exploring. I do have some problems with the personal story because my memory is shot. Wait what was I talking about? Oh yeah, my memory makes it hard for me to keep track of the actual story if I don’t do each event one after another.
I’m taking my good old time that is for sure. Over three months in game and I have barely touched most of the map. I think I’m at 28% completion or something like that. I don’t have a level 80 but 9 alts from all professions.
One thing I like about the game is that I can just logout if I start to get frustrated at a certain point and not have to worry about really losing out on much. I never feel forced to continue on when I am getting burned out. Plus there are tons of other things I can do outside of what might be causing me frustration until I’m ready to reset. I’m talking to you helpless ambient creatures.