Elementalist vs Thief

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Posted by: Appletoast.7315

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Hey there! I’m a somewhat new player that can’t decide between playing an Elementalist and playing a Thief. So my question is: What’s the demand and overall usefulness of these two in endgame? From what I’ve read so far they roughly do the same amount of DPS only with Ele having more utility.

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Posted by: BunjiKugashira.9754

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Ele is better at buffing / supporting the group and thus especially useful in dungeons. Thief is only useful for the group when you need stealth (for example in Arah). They both deal good damage, but ele is more effective (because frostbow) against structures while thief does more damage on mobs and single bosses. Both are pretty fun to play but die pretty fast if you make mistakes. Except if you get that trait for the thief where you’re healed for 15% of your crit-damage.

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Posted by: Appletoast.7315

Appletoast.7315

Ele is better at buffing / supporting the group and thus especially useful in dungeons. Thief is only useful for the group when you need stealth (for example in Arah). They both deal good damage, but ele is more effective (because frostbow) against structures while thief does more damage on mobs and single bosses. Both are pretty fun to play but die pretty fast if you make mistakes. Except if you get that trait for the thief where you’re healed for 15% of your crit-damage.

Is the gap between single target DPS big enough that it needs to be taken into consideration or is it somewhat balanced there?

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Posted by: Redenaz.8631

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I would recommend trying them both for a while, then sticking with the one you find the most enjoyable.

For most groups / content, people don’t seem to care what your class is as long as you can play it competently, and you can always go back and raise a second character if you want to change up your gameplay.

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Posted by: Vert.5041

Vert.5041

Ele is better at buffing / supporting the group and thus especially useful in dungeons. Thief is only useful for the group when you need stealth (for example in Arah). They both deal good damage, but ele is more effective (because frostbow) against structures while thief does more damage on mobs and single bosses. Both are pretty fun to play but die pretty fast if you make mistakes. Except if you get that trait for the thief where you’re healed for 15% of your crit-damage.

Is the gap between single target DPS big enough that it needs to be taken into consideration or is it somewhat balanced there?

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The difference between ele and thief is so insignificant that all it would take is a small mistake like ele dropping Ice bow a little late or thief going below 6 initiative and that would determine which did more dps.

Pick the class that appeals to your aesthetics, play the game for a while and when you get into competitive speed running make a new char because you will be making many alts anyway.

Keep in mind that the upcoming expansion could make necros highest DPS (LOL).

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Posted by: Servanin.5021

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Correct me if i’m wrong, but…

- Ele range is stronger than thief. Just lava font + fireball is stronger than either shortbow or pistols.

- Thieve’s strongest DPS is dagger/dagger, which is melee ranged and single target. They typically switch out MH dagger for a sword for anything with cleaving, which isn’t as good.

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Vert.5041

Correct me if i’m wrong, but…

- Ele range is stronger than thief. Just lava font + fireball is stronger than either shortbow or pistols.

- Thieve’s strongest DPS is dagger/dagger, which is melee ranged and single target. They typically switch out MH dagger for a sword for anything with cleaving, which isn’t as good.

Yes, thief with pistol is kind of terrible for pve but besides elementalist every class has a better melee dps.

Slight correction, daggers now cleave two mobs, when thieves need to hit more than 2 mobs their dps compared to elementalist is lower. This however is a non issue, as you mostly skip all normal mobs in dungeons and the ones you do kill down so fast that more dps would save only a fraction of a second to a second at most. Sword dps is not that bad though, a lot of the thief’s damage comes from multipliers so it still has high base damage and is a great defiant stripping tool and makes clearing hard hitting trash like the wolves in coe much easier due to its near perma stun capability.

Thief shortbow is not a dps weapon set, its 100% utility. It has spammable blast finisher, great travel speed, bounce attack for things like the flowers in ta or the fire turrets in ac, it can keep mobs perma weakened and poisoned.

Basically, both ele and thief offer top tier dps where it matters and top tier utility where it matters. Pick the one you like better, there is a place in the meta for them both.

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