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"Enrichment" slot?
edit:
built extra slot rings to compensate, so don’t need the refund. But the amulet slot is pretty much useless imo. They will stay empty for now.
(edited by Grim West.3194)
REFUND or make the amulets same as other trinkets! And next time USE YOUR BRAINS! Rob your playerbase cause your bad plans and stupidity… Most of WVW players kitten fractals and want ability boost! They don’t care gold or karma… And most loyal players are all level 80 with 4-6 chars, who needs utility kitten? And what about those ppl, who bought an amulet infusion yesterday??? Really…
THIS IS A BIG FAIL!
So I lose my +4 Condi damage and can now have a buff from 4 things which have no value to me at all.
Adding insult to injury, I get back the infusion, not the laurels it cost me.
Strangely the joy of this is lost on me entirely.
Not one of the better changes thank you.
This is basically the same thread as
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/The-Amulet/6257056
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- In effect, all amulets are now “utility infusion only” — they just call it “enhancement slot” instead.
- Whatever bonus you had from other types of defensive/offensive infusions can be replaced or modified with the other slots. The amulet might have been ‘nerfed’ but our ability to buff was enhanced.
John Smith: “you should kill monsters, because killing monsters is awesome.”
I used to have 150 AR, but I’m down to 143 AR because no infusion spot on amulet. Now I can’t do certain level on fractals.
Anet, what is this?
Hate it, hate it, hate it!!!! I want my stats not some utility crap. Thanks for nothing…
So I lose my +4 Condi damage and can now have a buff from 4 things which have no value to me at all.
Adding insult to injury, I get back the infusion, not the laurels it cost me.
Strangely the joy of this is lost on me entirely.
Not one of the better changes thank you.
No, you gain up to 12 condi damage because you can now put them in attuned and infused rings. Before you could only get 2 +4/5 infusions. Now you can do up to 3 in each ring. Your stats go up, not down.
I used to have 150 AR, but I’m down to 143 AR because no infusion spot on amulet. Now I can’t do certain level on fractals.
Anet, what is this?
Actually from a fractal point its not so bad, as the simple +7s can now be replaced with +10s etc where as before the patch the simple +7 was the highest you could put, this allows us to easily go beyond 150 AR, which might be handy if there plan it to push higher levels of fractals in future updates
i want my laurels back or change it back so we can put infusions on, it took my ages to get my amulet, and now u guys made it useless.
I used to have 150 AR, but I’m down to 143 AR because no infusion spot on amulet. Now I can’t do certain level on fractals.
Anet, what is this?
Just buy the AR potion from the fractal mastery vendor, it’s dirt cheap.
Forged a +5power +5AR (which is converted to +7power +7AR now) last month so I literally wasted 60g it seems, because now you can simply buy these very cheap at the new fractal vendor. FML.
Anyway, so which enrichment is currently the best one to buy? I assume the +20 Magic find?
Also can anyone confirm for me that you can put +(any number) agony infusions in armor now? So for example +15AR.
Because I am thinking about which ones to put in my armor.. 6x +9 Mighty infusions or 6x normal agony infusions.
This is only a good change if you do Fractals. If you don’t, it’s pretty much a slap in the face.
This is only a good change if you do Fractals. If you don’t, it’s pretty much a slap in the face.
Well AR slots are for Fractals so…
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This is only a good change if you do Fractals. If you don’t, it’s pretty much a slap in the face.
Well AR slots are for Fractals so…
Absolutely no such thing as AR slots anymore. All trinkets, other than Amulets, have slots that can hold any Infusion. Attuning a Ring, for instance, adds slots, into which you can put whatever infusion you want, AR or not.
So I lose my +4 Condi damage and can now have a buff from 4 things which have no value to me at all.
Adding insult to injury, I get back the infusion, not the laurels it cost me.
Strangely the joy of this is lost on me entirely.
Not one of the better changes thank you.No, you gain up to 12 condi damage because you can now put them in attuned and infused rings. Before you could only get 2 +4/5 infusions. Now you can do up to 3 in each ring. Your stats go up, not down.
Wait, wait. So you’re saying you can get more by using the attuned slots? I thought the attuned slot was just for AR only. Also, I thought you can only get +5 attributes on the infusions. How are you figuring +12 condi for each trinket?
Disclaimer: I strictly WvW and never got into the Fractal/AR thing. Just purchased my infusions from the WvW laurel merchant. Sorry for my ignorance. I’m going to have to go back and re-read those notes. I normally skip past Fractal stuff.
“Be like water” – Bruce Lee
(edited by Lonewolf Kai.3682)
So I lose my +4 Condi damage and can now have a buff from 4 things which have no value to me at all.
Adding insult to injury, I get back the infusion, not the laurels it cost me.
Strangely the joy of this is lost on me entirely.
Not one of the better changes thank you.No, you gain up to 12 condi damage because you can now put them in attuned and infused rings. Before you could only get 2 +4/5 infusions. Now you can do up to 3 in each ring. Your stats go up, not down.
Wait, wait. So you’re saying you can get more by using the attuned slots? I thought the attuned slot was just for AR only. Also, I thought you can only get +5 attributes on the infusions. How are you figuring +12 condi for each trinket?
Disclaimer: I strictly WvW and never got into the Fractal/AR thing. Just purchased my infusions from the WvW laurel merchant. Sorry for my ignorance. I’m going to have to go back and re-read those notes. I normally skip past Fractal stuff.
Attuned gives a slot
Infused gives another slot
All slots are the same now so you can fill everything with +5 and +1% damage against or -1% damage taken infusions.
You will need to do some fractals for the infused slot.
So I lose my +4 Condi damage and can now have a buff from 4 things which have no value to me at all.
Adding insult to injury, I get back the infusion, not the laurels it cost me.
Strangely the joy of this is lost on me entirely.
Not one of the better changes thank you.No, you gain up to 12 condi damage because you can now put them in attuned and infused rings. Before you could only get 2 +4/5 infusions. Now you can do up to 3 in each ring. Your stats go up, not down.
Wait, wait. So you’re saying you can get more by using the attuned slots? I thought the attuned slot was just for AR only. Also, I thought you can only get +5 attributes on the infusions. How are you figuring +12 condi for each trinket?
Disclaimer: I strictly WvW and never got into the Fractal/AR thing. Just purchased my infusions from the WvW laurel merchant. Sorry for my ignorance. I’m going to have to go back and re-read those notes. I normally skip past Fractal stuff.
Attuned gives a slot
Infused gives another slotAll slots are the same now so you can fill everything with +5 and +1% damage against or -1% damage taken infusions.
You will need to do some fractals for the infused slot.
Yeah, sorry. Just found out how easy it is to Attune. I always thought you had to go from Ascended to Infused to Attuned. Adding one more slot is way, way easier/cheaper. All good now.
So I lose my +4 Condi damage and can now have a buff from 4 things which have no value to me at all.
Adding insult to injury, I get back the infusion, not the laurels it cost me.
Strangely the joy of this is lost on me entirely.
Not one of the better changes thank you.No, you gain up to 12 condi damage because you can now put them in attuned and infused rings. Before you could only get 2 +4/5 infusions. Now you can do up to 3 in each ring. Your stats go up, not down.
Wait, wait. So you’re saying you can get more by using the attuned slots? I thought the attuned slot was just for AR only. Also, I thought you can only get +5 attributes on the infusions. How are you figuring +12 condi for each trinket?
Disclaimer: I strictly WvW and never got into the Fractal/AR thing. Just purchased my infusions from the WvW laurel merchant. Sorry for my ignorance. I’m going to have to go back and re-read those notes. I normally skip past Fractal stuff.
Attuned gives a slot
Infused gives another slotAll slots are the same now so you can fill everything with +5 and +1% damage against or -1% damage taken infusions.
You will need to do some fractals for the infused slot.
Okay, I see where I was getting confused. The rings come with an infusion slot already. You have to infuse it again with the 3 types of Mist Essences, and then Attune it for a total of 3 slots.
So I lose my +4 Condi damage and can now have a buff from 4 things which have no value to me at all.
Adding insult to injury, I get back the infusion, not the laurels it cost me.
Strangely the joy of this is lost on me entirely.
Not one of the better changes thank you.No, you gain up to 12 condi damage because you can now put them in attuned and infused rings. Before you could only get 2 +4/5 infusions. Now you can do up to 3 in each ring. Your stats go up, not down.
Wait, wait. So you’re saying you can get more by using the attuned slots? I thought the attuned slot was just for AR only. Also, I thought you can only get +5 attributes on the infusions. How are you figuring +12 condi for each trinket?
Disclaimer: I strictly WvW and never got into the Fractal/AR thing. Just purchased my infusions from the WvW laurel merchant. Sorry for my ignorance. I’m going to have to go back and re-read those notes. I normally skip past Fractal stuff.
Attuned gives a slot
Infused gives another slotAll slots are the same now so you can fill everything with +5 and +1% damage against or -1% damage taken infusions.
You will need to do some fractals for the infused slot.
Yeah, sorry. Just found out how easy it is to Attune. I always thought you had to go from Ascended to Infused to Attuned. Adding one more slot is way, way easier/cheaper. All good now.
I think you still do if you want all 3 infusion slots…. unless I’m confused again.
“Be like water” – Bruce Lee
So I lose my +4 Condi damage and can now have a buff from 4 things which have no value to me at all.
Adding insult to injury, I get back the infusion, not the laurels it cost me.
Strangely the joy of this is lost on me entirely.
Not one of the better changes thank you.No, you gain up to 12 condi damage because you can now put them in attuned and infused rings. Before you could only get 2 +4/5 infusions. Now you can do up to 3 in each ring. Your stats go up, not down.
Wait, wait. So you’re saying you can get more by using the attuned slots? I thought the attuned slot was just for AR only. Also, I thought you can only get +5 attributes on the infusions. How are you figuring +12 condi for each trinket?
Disclaimer: I strictly WvW and never got into the Fractal/AR thing. Just purchased my infusions from the WvW laurel merchant. Sorry for my ignorance. I’m going to have to go back and re-read those notes. I normally skip past Fractal stuff.
Attuned gives a slot
Infused gives another slotAll slots are the same now so you can fill everything with +5 and +1% damage against or -1% damage taken infusions.
You will need to do some fractals for the infused slot.
Okay, I see where I was getting confused. The rings come with an infusion slot already. You have to infuse it again with the 3 types of Mist Essences, and then Attune it for a total of 3 slots.
So I lose my +4 Condi damage and can now have a buff from 4 things which have no value to me at all.
Adding insult to injury, I get back the infusion, not the laurels it cost me.
Strangely the joy of this is lost on me entirely.
Not one of the better changes thank you.No, you gain up to 12 condi damage because you can now put them in attuned and infused rings. Before you could only get 2 +4/5 infusions. Now you can do up to 3 in each ring. Your stats go up, not down.
Wait, wait. So you’re saying you can get more by using the attuned slots? I thought the attuned slot was just for AR only. Also, I thought you can only get +5 attributes on the infusions. How are you figuring +12 condi for each trinket?
Disclaimer: I strictly WvW and never got into the Fractal/AR thing. Just purchased my infusions from the WvW laurel merchant. Sorry for my ignorance. I’m going to have to go back and re-read those notes. I normally skip past Fractal stuff.
Attuned gives a slot
Infused gives another slotAll slots are the same now so you can fill everything with +5 and +1% damage against or -1% damage taken infusions.
You will need to do some fractals for the infused slot.
Yeah, sorry. Just found out how easy it is to Attune. I always thought you had to go from Ascended to Infused to Attuned. Adding one more slot is way, way easier/cheaper. All good now.
I think you still do if you want all 3 infusion slots…. unless I’m confused again.
you have to do it all for all 3 slots, but it can be done in either order so you can attune without infusing both rings to give you 1 more slot total than you had before the change
So I lose my +4 Condi damage and can now have a buff from 4 things which have no value to me at all.
Adding insult to injury, I get back the infusion, not the laurels it cost me.
Strangely the joy of this is lost on me entirely.
Not one of the better changes thank you.No, you gain up to 12 condi damage because you can now put them in attuned and infused rings. Before you could only get 2 +4/5 infusions. Now you can do up to 3 in each ring. Your stats go up, not down.
Wait, wait. So you’re saying you can get more by using the attuned slots? I thought the attuned slot was just for AR only. Also, I thought you can only get +5 attributes on the infusions. How are you figuring +12 condi for each trinket?
Disclaimer: I strictly WvW and never got into the Fractal/AR thing. Just purchased my infusions from the WvW laurel merchant. Sorry for my ignorance. I’m going to have to go back and re-read those notes. I normally skip past Fractal stuff.
Attuned gives a slot
Infused gives another slotAll slots are the same now so you can fill everything with +5 and +1% damage against or -1% damage taken infusions.
You will need to do some fractals for the infused slot.
Okay, I see where I was getting confused. The rings come with an infusion slot already. You have to infuse it again with the 3 types of Mist Essences, and then Attune it for a total of 3 slots.
So I lose my +4 Condi damage and can now have a buff from 4 things which have no value to me at all.
Adding insult to injury, I get back the infusion, not the laurels it cost me.
Strangely the joy of this is lost on me entirely.
Not one of the better changes thank you.No, you gain up to 12 condi damage because you can now put them in attuned and infused rings. Before you could only get 2 +4/5 infusions. Now you can do up to 3 in each ring. Your stats go up, not down.
Wait, wait. So you’re saying you can get more by using the attuned slots? I thought the attuned slot was just for AR only. Also, I thought you can only get +5 attributes on the infusions. How are you figuring +12 condi for each trinket?
Disclaimer: I strictly WvW and never got into the Fractal/AR thing. Just purchased my infusions from the WvW laurel merchant. Sorry for my ignorance. I’m going to have to go back and re-read those notes. I normally skip past Fractal stuff.
Attuned gives a slot
Infused gives another slotAll slots are the same now so you can fill everything with +5 and +1% damage against or -1% damage taken infusions.
You will need to do some fractals for the infused slot.
Yeah, sorry. Just found out how easy it is to Attune. I always thought you had to go from Ascended to Infused to Attuned. Adding one more slot is way, way easier/cheaper. All good now.
I think you still do if you want all 3 infusion slots…. unless I’m confused again.
you have to do it all for all 3 slots, but it can be done in either order so you can attune without infusing both rings to give you 1 more slot total than you had before the change
Okay, thanks for the info. I’ll have to do some essence farming then.
“Be like water” – Bruce Lee
you have to do it all for all 3 slots, but it can be done in either order so you can attune without infusing both rings to give you 1 more slot total than you had before the change
Okay, thanks for the info. I’ll have to do some essence farming then.
You can buy those with fractal relics now if you have the fractal mastery. So not much need to farm those either.
you have to do it all for all 3 slots, but it can be done in either order so you can attune without infusing both rings to give you 1 more slot total than you had before the change
Okay, thanks for the info. I’ll have to do some essence farming then.
You can buy those with fractal relics now if you have the fractal mastery. So not much need to farm those either.
Don’t have that yet I don’t think. I guess I can work on that.
“Be like water” – Bruce Lee
I have the Enrichment Slot problem as well. And since I can get a new trinket (ring, amulet, whatever) of course to fit the infusion in I still lost Laurels since I bought the amulet specifically to hold a agony infusion. I would be happy to have my Laurels back to buy a new amulet or – even better – to have that fixed so that the amulets (or other trinkets) affected can hold the old infusion’s as well. I do not have Laurels in abundance.
Anet have stated they will NOT be refunding peoples Laurels. The reason they give is Laurels can be converted into gold and people on mass getting lots of Laurels back may have an inpact on the market such as dye prices etc (since Laurels can be used to buy dyes). I agree this could be an issue, however I can also see the easy option they seem to not be offering.
The simple solution is if anet let us exchange/convert the inscriptions with an npc. For example allow power +5 infusion to be exchanged for a +5 condi etc. It would be better than the current system.
That said the forced enrichment slots was a messy idea and not really justified imo in the first place.
(edited by clone wars.9568)
its a good change for everyone!!
fractal goers can salvage their + 11 and + 12ar infusions into smaller ones
and sicne you can put higher than just mere 7s into armor and weapons you can put in 12 +8 ar infusions and 69s and are at 150ar
which is way cheaper than previously
additionally wvw players can get the infusions they like on everything and every spot that was previously a agony exclusive spot
so more stats and if you want ALL power.. no defensive or offensive…
it took me the first evening to get used to it (so i bought oen potion the first day for my dailys)
but since i figured out how it works.. i love it
basically if you don’t do fractals, the changes to simplify the slots are great, you can slot in more wvw infusions for more stats and more damage/damage reduction against WvW camp supervisors/tower bosses as you wish.
But if you do fractals, you just lost some AR.
Zapp – 80 Asura Afromancer
Forged a +5power +5AR (which is converted to +7power +7AR now) last month so I literally wasted 60g it seems, because now you can simply buy these very cheap at the new fractal vendor. FML.
Anyway, so which enrichment is currently the best one to buy? I assume the +20 Magic find?
5 Power/7 AR cost around 45g-48g worth of stabilizing matrices. It is cheaper but not a 60g difference.
basically if you don’t do fractals, the changes to simplify the slots are great, you can slot in more wvw infusions for more stats and more damage/damage reduction against WvW camp supervisors/tower bosses as you wish.
But if you do fractals, you just lost some AR.
That is also not entirely true. A character with full ascended get an additional 13 slots that can get an additional two or more AR. So that is maybe -15 and +26 with a net gain of +11.
(edited by Khisanth.2948)
Forged a +5power +5AR (which is converted to +7power +7AR now) last month so I literally wasted 60g it seems, because now you can simply buy these very cheap at the new fractal vendor. FML.
Anyway, so which enrichment is currently the best one to buy? I assume the +20 Magic find?
5 Power/7 AR cost around 45g-48g worth of stabilizing matrices. It is cheaper but not a 60g difference.
basically if you don’t do fractals, the changes to simplify the slots are great, you can slot in more wvw infusions for more stats and more damage/damage reduction against WvW camp supervisors/tower bosses as you wish.
But if you do fractals, you just lost some AR.
That is also not entirely true. A character with full ascended get an additional 13 slots that can get an additional two or more AR. So that is maybe -15 and +26 with a net gain of +11.
What extra slots? You had available before this patch 6 armor slots, 2 weapon slots, 1-2 back slots, 2 accessory slots, 1 amulet slot, and 2-6 ring slots. A total of 19 slots.
Now you get 18 because the amulet slot is lost.
Zapp – 80 Asura Afromancer
It’s weird that everyone is so mad about this, I’ve been using the 20% MF thing in my amulet since forever, so nothing changed for me. Maybe it’s useless but +5 power wouldn’t help much either… XD
Forged a +5power +5AR (which is converted to +7power +7AR now) last month so I literally wasted 60g it seems, because now you can simply buy these very cheap at the new fractal vendor. FML.
Anyway, so which enrichment is currently the best one to buy? I assume the +20 Magic find?
5 Power/7 AR cost around 45g-48g worth of stabilizing matrices. It is cheaper but not a 60g difference.
basically if you don’t do fractals, the changes to simplify the slots are great, you can slot in more wvw infusions for more stats and more damage/damage reduction against WvW camp supervisors/tower bosses as you wish.
But if you do fractals, you just lost some AR.
That is also not entirely true. A character with full ascended get an additional 13 slots that can get an additional two or more AR. So that is maybe -15 and +26 with a net gain of +11.
What extra slots? You had available before this patch 6 armor slots, 2 weapon slots, 1-2 back slots, 2 accessory slots, 1 amulet slot, and 2-6 ring slots. A total of 19 slots.
Now you get 18 because the amulet slot is lost.
Some of the slots before the patch can only go up to +7. Now they can all go to +30 in case you have a few million USD burning kitten in your pocket.
But if you do fractals, you just lost some AR.
We lost one slot, in exchange for which we gained the ability to put AR >+7 in 13 additional slots — previously, the ascended AR would only fit in 5 trinket slots (two each from the two rings, one from the back); now, all ascended trinkets except the amulet and all ascended armor & weapons have a lot for arbitrarily large AR.
Anyone depending on +7 AR from the amulet might have lost that amount, but only for the 20-40 minutes it will take to rearrange the existing AR.
tl;dr no one lost AR except temporarily; instead, we gained the potential to slot more AR, more +stats, and do so using fewer +1 infusions than before.
John Smith: “you should kill monsters, because killing monsters is awesome.”
Thanks for nothing, Anet. WTF? “Here’s your infusion back. Hopefully you can use it somewhere else, otherwise you’re just SOL.” :-(
the reaction of people to this change without realizing they are actually gaining more.
/facepalm
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it is stupid , I hate it , the enrichment slot infusion is USELESS
ANET need to change it back , stop giving us useless stuff