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Posted by: Sazukikrah.5036

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I’m just curious about what Arena net will do about the excessive amount of Hero Points. I’m sure they wont be able to used in next expansion, but if so will the next elite cost 400 hero points or something ? HoT Elite spec cost 250 Hero points. Right now I have 363 Hero points unused and I’m just curious about what will they be used for in the future.

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Posted by: OriOri.8724

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I’m really hoping we will be getting 2 new elite specs per class with the expansion.

Not only will this be a huge sink for our extra HP that we already have on characters, but it would also give each class 3 elite specs instead of 2, which means that they would finally feel like actual specializations (eg each class could have 1 support spec, 1 DPS spec, and 1 “random” spec that was good at something unique)

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Posted by: Sazukikrah.5036

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I’m really hoping we will be getting 2 new elite specs per class with the expansion.

Not only will this be a huge sink for our extra HP that we already have on characters, but it would also give each class 3 elite specs instead of 2, which means that they would finally feel like actual specializations (eg each class could have 1 support spec, 1 DPS spec, and 1 “random” spec that was good at something unique)

I don’t think they will do 3 elite specs. I would like if they gave 2 sets of weapons , but 3 elite specs is crazy. Imagine the imbalance ; which already exists lol.

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What? How would having 3 elite specs cause any imbalance? Everyone would still only be able to take one.

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Posted by: Palador.2170

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Just a reminder that a lot of players didn’t like the HoT maps and getting around in them. For those players, it’s safe to say that they don’t have all the HoT Hero Points claimed on most characters.

It would be a bad idea to set up the next elites to require people to go back into HoT for more points, and I hope it’s safe to say that they won’t do that. So, no huge cost to the new elite specs in that way.

What I expect is for them to add in a new “Expansion 2” style of HP, that can be used for the new specs, and then if you have the first elite fully unlocked you can use left over “Old” HPs at an exchange rate that will give you a jump on unlocking the new one, but still come up short.

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Posted by: Stitch.1794

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One compaint that came with elite specs last time round was that they took too long to unlock them, that people had hoped to use them throughout the new content and not just towards the end. Because of that, it don’t think it’s that unlikely that it’d be 250 points again, and anyone with that much already will be able to unlock on day 1. I’d expect them to require the 1st elite spec to be unlocked first, though.

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Posted by: Khailyn.6248

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While I would have no problem with having more than one elite spec be released (bringing the total to 3) or even having our current elite spec be skippable if they wanted the new one more. But I can already here the whining of those that start one to find they cannot reset them once they start due to lack of foresight. Just leveling up and unlocking the core ones ppl complain.. smh…

The issue AN would have with revealing more than one at a time would be with weapon selection, new theme mechanics and eventually running out of options/combinations.

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Posted by: OriOri.8724

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ANet will never run out of options/combinations. There is nothing stopping them from just giving new skills to a weapon the core class can use when you use a specific elite spec line. Would it suck to be left out and not get a new weapon? Maybe, but its not as if this isn’t an option.

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Posted by: Electro.4173

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I think its clear the devs’ original intent was that each expansion would add enough hero points to unlock its elite spec and get you slightly less than halfway to the next Espec in the next expansion, if you got every single hero point available.

Of course, that was the original plan back when Especs cost 400 points (which they did at HoT’s launch). Since that got so many complaints from people that they lowered the cost to 250, that prospect has been pretty much thrown out the window. Hard to say what they’ll do now. Raising the cost of the next Espec back to 400 would likely bring on the same complaints about it taking too long, but leaving the cost at 250 means many can just unlock the entire Espec right out of the gate, which they probably don’t want.

I suppose they could increase the amount dramatically (something like 800, say) but then make the hero challenges in the new map give you like 25 hero points a piece, like how the HoT points give 10 vs only 1 in the core maps. It’d drastically inflate the numbers, which would be kind of silly, but it would allow them to set a certain “pace” for getting a new Espec and not just let you bypass it all with existing points.

That may be the “best” way they could do it at this point.

I can almost guarantee that they will NOT lock the 2nd Espec behind the first, though. That would be fine for current HoT players who have already unlocked their elite spec, but for those who only get HoT from being bundled with the expansion, it’d mean they can’t get their new elite spec without doing all the grinding for the old one. Which would bring up even more complaints than the original 400-point cost.

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Posted by: Khailyn.6248

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ANet will never run out of options/combinations. There is nothing stopping them from just giving new skills to a weapon the core class can use when you use a specific elite spec line. Would it suck to be left out and not get a new weapon? Maybe, but its not as if this isn’t an option.

it is possible to run out of combinations just in terms of how many weapons are available for each profession. each elite spec thus far has given us a weapon that wasnt available previously with warrior having the least possible new combinations since they had the most available at launch. the only way to avoid exhausting this would be to create a new weapon type.

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Posted by: Charrbeque.8729

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Save them for future elite specializations. It will give you a head start on it.

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Posted by: OriOri.8724

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ANet will never run out of options/combinations. There is nothing stopping them from just giving new skills to a weapon the core class can use when you use a specific elite spec line. Would it suck to be left out and not get a new weapon? Maybe, but its not as if this isn’t an option.

it is possible to run out of combinations just in terms of how many weapons are available for each profession. each elite spec thus far has given us a weapon that wasnt available previously with warrior having the least possible new combinations since they had the most available at launch. the only way to avoid exhausting this would be to create a new weapon type.

No, it wouldn’t. Did you even read my comment? They could easily just add in new skills for an existing weapon that the core spec can already access for when they take the elite spec line.

They are never going to run out of this option, since it can always exist.

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Posted by: Amaimon.7823

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my wild guess is that the remaining hero points can just be used fine, maybe the ones will be again a little more expensive, like maybe 15HP per challenge, and then cost like 90 instead of 60 for a full track.. like that.. or something