Last time, instead of trashing SW recipes as usually, I asked in map chat someone wanted them. A guy responded, I sent him the first 5 and then was blocked for excessive messaging, leaving me with no choice but destroying the rest. I’m not sure what is the most excessive: my messaging, or Anet’s filters.
EDIT – I dunno if it’s still the case, but you also used to get blocked from the LFG tool for the same reason, after relisting a few times your announce, which was quite funny when you know how long it can take to find raid groups with a non FOTM class.
I mailed two people and now I can’t mail anyone else. TWO people.
Why is this a thing?
Please make it not so restrictive.
Another fine game feature brought to you by your friendly Goldsellers. Message them a thank you when you get the chance,
I don’t see why it needs to be TWO whole people to stop goldsellers. The cap should be like 10 or 20, something a normal person wouldn’t experience. When your anti-goldseller measures are so excessive that they effect normal players you’ve failed.
I mailed two people and now I can’t mail anyone else. TWO people.
Why is this a thing?
Please make it not so restrictive.
Another fine game feature brought to you by your friendly Goldsellers. Message them a thank you when you get the chance,
I don’t see why it needs to be TWO whole people to stop goldsellers. The cap should be like 10 or 20, something a normal person wouldn’t experience. When your anti-goldseller measures are so excessive that they effect normal players you’re failed.
So you’re okay with allowing 5x as much spam from gold sellers?
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Incidentally, the time out is 20-30 seconds. So you can send four emails / minute or so, if you go slowly enough. The only time that’s a problem for me is
As a guild leader, the rare time I can’t rely on message-of-the-day or the website.
Sending accumulated stuff from my alt account.
Helping squad by sending food.
I’d rather live with the the minor inconvenience of my emails being over-throttled than with the major hassle of increasing the limit and allowing more spam.
John Smith: “you should kill monsters, because killing monsters is awesome.”
I don’t enjoy restrictions that do harm to me as a player to counter gold sellers.
Uh, no. No one was saying you would get emails from gold sellers.
The restrictions are there to hinder gold sellers from quickly mailing out gold and items to their customers and sending out or receiving gold/items from hacked or bot accounts. Like any business, time is money to them. The longer they have to wait, the less mail or gold they can send or receive and the more likely it is they’ll get banned before they can do as much as they want.
Be careful what you ask for
ANet may give it to you.
The limit is 1 message every minute with a maximum of 2 messages piling up. If you’re sending wintersday’s gifts to everyone on your friendlist you get to know the limits pretty well. ;D
I think the limit should be extended to 4 messages piling up. You should at least be able to send everyone in your group some bufffood. Also the restrictions should be lifted/extended for accounts that have been active and safe for an extended time. If my account didn’t get hacked by goldsellers for more than 3 years then it likely won’t be hacked any time soon. There is no reason to keep such ridiculous restrictions on safe accounts. You could even tie the removal of these restrictions to having 2 factor authentification. Would be a better reward than that dragon mini.
Shana Flamewielder
Sylvari Elementalist of [SFF]
Abaddons Maul
The limit is 1 message every minute with a maximum of 2 messages piling up. If you’re sending wintersday’s gifts to everyone on your friendlist you get to know the limits pretty well. ;D
I think the limit should be extended to 4 messages piling up. You should at least be able to send everyone in your group some bufffood. Also the restrictions should be lifted/extended for accounts that have been active and safe for an extended time. If my account didn’t get hacked by goldsellers for more than 3 years then it likely won’t be hacked any time soon. There is no reason to keep such ridiculous restrictions on safe accounts. You could even tie the removal of these restrictions to having 2 factor authentification. Would be a better reward than that dragon mini.
It’s been a while since I got my two factor authorization so I’ll have to ask. Is there a reason why a gold seller couldn’t get the 2 factor authorization in order to bypass the messaging limits?
Be careful what you ask for
ANet may give it to you.
The limit is 1 message every minute with a maximum of 2 messages piling up. If you’re sending wintersday’s gifts to everyone on your friendlist you get to know the limits pretty well. ;D
I think the limit should be extended to 4 messages piling up. You should at least be able to send everyone in your group some bufffood. Also the restrictions should be lifted/extended for accounts that have been active and safe for an extended time. If my account didn’t get hacked by goldsellers for more than 3 years then it likely won’t be hacked any time soon. There is no reason to keep such ridiculous restrictions on safe accounts. You could even tie the removal of these restrictions to having 2 factor authentification. Would be a better reward than that dragon mini.
It’s been a while since I got my two factor authorization so I’ll have to ask. Is there a reason why a gold seller can’t get the 2 factor authorization in order to bypass the messaging limits?
I think that’s happened in the past. I’ve seen posts in the past of players suddenly going: I’ve got 2 factor authorization on my account but I didn’t put it on there.
The limit is 1 message every minute with a maximum of 2 messages piling up. If you’re sending wintersday’s gifts to everyone on your friendlist you get to know the limits pretty well. ;D
I think the limit should be extended to 4 messages piling up. You should at least be able to send everyone in your group some bufffood. Also the restrictions should be lifted/extended for accounts that have been active and safe for an extended time. If my account didn’t get hacked by goldsellers for more than 3 years then it likely won’t be hacked any time soon. There is no reason to keep such ridiculous restrictions on safe accounts. You could even tie the removal of these restrictions to having 2 factor authentification. Would be a better reward than that dragon mini.
It’s been a while since I got my two factor authorization so I’ll have to ask. Is there a reason why a gold seller can’t get the 2 factor authorization in order to bypass the messaging limits?
I think that’s happened in the past. I’ve seen posts in the past of players suddenly going: I’ve got 2 factor authorization on my account but I didn’t put it on there.
Yeah, I’ve seen those also.
As to being unlikely to be hacked because your account is 3 years old, probably true. But that doesn’t mean someone else’s X year old account is equally as unlikely to be hacked since it depends on the person’s security measures, not the age of their account.
Be careful what you ask for
ANet may give it to you.
The limit is 1 message every minute with a maximum of 2 messages piling up. If you’re sending wintersday’s gifts to everyone on your friendlist you get to know the limits pretty well. ;D
I think the limit should be extended to 4 messages piling up. You should at least be able to send everyone in your group some bufffood. Also the restrictions should be lifted/extended for accounts that have been active and safe for an extended time. If my account didn’t get hacked by goldsellers for more than 3 years then it likely won’t be hacked any time soon. There is no reason to keep such ridiculous restrictions on safe accounts. You could even tie the removal of these restrictions to having 2 factor authentification. Would be a better reward than that dragon mini.
It’s been a while since I got my two factor authorization so I’ll have to ask. Is there a reason why a gold seller can’t get the 2 factor authorization in order to bypass the messaging limits?
I think that’s happened in the past. I’ve seen posts in the past of players suddenly going: I’ve got 2 factor authorization on my account but I didn’t put it on there.
Yeah, I’ve seen those also.
As to being unlikely to be hacked because your account is 3 years old, probably true. But that doesn’t mean someone else’s X year old account is equally as unlikely to be hacked since it depends on the person’s security measures, not the age of their account.
That’s exactly why I’ve proposed to lift the restrictions on accounts that are
old enough to be sure that they don’t belong to goldsellers
using 2 factor authorisation so it’s harder to hack them
I don’t see a reason to put restrictions on an account where you can be 99.9% sure that it will never be in the hands of a goldseller.
Shana Flamewielder
Sylvari Elementalist of [SFF]
Abaddons Maul
I mailed two people and now I can’t mail anyone else. TWO people.
Why is this a thing?
Please make it not so restrictive.
Another fine game feature brought to you by your friendly Goldsellers. Message them a thank you when you get the chance,
You would think that but thats not true. Gold sellers don’t use mail system to spam people they use map chat or private messages 95% of the time. This changed after anet added the report link/icon in the mail system. That mean’t gold sellers were reported sooner if they abused the mail system, than if they just used the private message system.
The heavy mail restrictions are for a completely different reason though anet will never offically admit it. They are restricting mail to discourage people moving things to their ALT/mule accounts. This in turn makes people BUY more bank/invent bags/tabs and in turn makes anet more money. I moved 100 items over to my alt account this took HOURS due to the mail restrictions that kick in after only 3 mails and only allows you to send up to five items per mail.
So the real reason is to prevent people using their PAID for alt accounts for extra storage and NOTHING to do with gold sellers advertising. They also added more restrictions to guild banks for the very same reason, to punish people using other storage means.
Even before those new guild bank restrictions they targeting people thinking about starting a guild for the 50 slot guild banks. Right after HOT they changed guilds and how upgrades could be ordered completely removing influence system. With influence system removed solo-guilds no longer could upgrade their guilds or order more storaging unless they had a bigger none-one man guilds. And they now have to run guild missions etc before they are allowed to upgrade guild bank stoarge, making it impossible for solo-guilds to get the free storage now.
They also recently added to the max allowed normal bank storage people can now BUY if you didnt notice, to get those already at max stoarge to buy even more bank tabs…..
The limit is 1 message every minute with a maximum of 2 messages piling up. If you’re sending wintersday’s gifts to everyone on your friendlist you get to know the limits pretty well. ;D
I think the limit should be extended to 4 messages piling up. You should at least be able to send everyone in your group some bufffood. Also the restrictions should be lifted/extended for accounts that have been active and safe for an extended time. If my account didn’t get hacked by goldsellers for more than 3 years then it likely won’t be hacked any time soon. There is no reason to keep such ridiculous restrictions on safe accounts. You could even tie the removal of these restrictions to having 2 factor authentification. Would be a better reward than that dragon mini.
It’s been a while since I got my two factor authorization so I’ll have to ask. Is there a reason why a gold seller can’t get the 2 factor authorization in order to bypass the messaging limits?
I think that’s happened in the past. I’ve seen posts in the past of players suddenly going: I’ve got 2 factor authorization on my account but I didn’t put it on there.
Yeah, I’ve seen those also.
As to being unlikely to be hacked because your account is 3 years old, probably true. But that doesn’t mean someone else’s X year old account is equally as unlikely to be hacked since it depends on the person’s security measures, not the age of their account.
That’s exactly why I’ve proposed to lift the restrictions on accounts that are
old enough to be sure that they don’t belong to goldsellers
using 2 factor authorisation so it’s harder to hack them
I don’t see a reason to put restrictions on an account where you can be 99.9% sure that it will never be in the hands of a goldseller.
Maybe.
What’s to stop gold sellers from going back to old, inactive accounts they’ve hacked and stripped that weren’t used for botting or goldselling and so are not banned, putting a 2 factor authorization on them and using those accounts for unrestricted mail outs?
Be careful what you ask for
ANet may give it to you.
I mailed two people and now I can’t mail anyone else. TWO people.
Why is this a thing?
Please make it not so restrictive.
Another fine game feature brought to you by your friendly Goldsellers. Message them a thank you when you get the chance,
You would think that but thats not true. Gold sellers don’t use mail system to spam people they use map chat or private messages 95% of the time. This changed after anet added the report link/icon in the mail system, mean the sellers were reported sooner if they abused the mail system than if they just used the private message system.
The heavy mail restrictions are for a completely different reason though anet will never offically admit it. They are restricting mail to discourage people moving things to their ALT/mule accounts. This in turn makes people BUY more bank/invent bags/tabs and in turn makes anet more money. I moved 100 items over to my alt account this took HOURS due to the mail restrictions that kick in after only 3 mails and only allows you to send up to five items per mail.
So the real reason is to prevent people using their PAID for alt accounts for extra storage and NOTHING to do with gold sellers advertising.
They’ve had this feature from before alt accounts were a big thing with the $10 sales a year or so back. Back then most people only had the one account.
Edit: from 3 & 1/2 years ago. Might be related to an old problem with gold sellers spamming soliciting emails to people.
On a related note, I’ve also discovered that the reason we’re not getting spam email any more isn’t because they’re banning the senders or that they have some clever algorithm filtering email communications; they simply aggressively decreased the number of mails you can send before you can’t send any more. Doing dungeons recently and looking to distribute potions to my party, I found I couldn’t send more than TWO emails before not being allowed to send any more. Nothing clever or pro-active, just the laziest, dirtiest fix applied with no discretion.
Be careful what you ask for
ANet may give it to you.
The limit is 1 message every minute with a maximum of 2 messages piling up. If you’re sending wintersday’s gifts to everyone on your friendlist you get to know the limits pretty well. ;D
I think the limit should be extended to 4 messages piling up. You should at least be able to send everyone in your group some bufffood. Also the restrictions should be lifted/extended for accounts that have been active and safe for an extended time. If my account didn’t get hacked by goldsellers for more than 3 years then it likely won’t be hacked any time soon. There is no reason to keep such ridiculous restrictions on safe accounts. You could even tie the removal of these restrictions to having 2 factor authentification. Would be a better reward than that dragon mini.
It’s been a while since I got my two factor authorization so I’ll have to ask. Is there a reason why a gold seller can’t get the 2 factor authorization in order to bypass the messaging limits?
I think that’s happened in the past. I’ve seen posts in the past of players suddenly going: I’ve got 2 factor authorization on my account but I didn’t put it on there.
Yeah, I’ve seen those also.
As to being unlikely to be hacked because your account is 3 years old, probably true. But that doesn’t mean someone else’s X year old account is equally as unlikely to be hacked since it depends on the person’s security measures, not the age of their account.
That’s exactly why I’ve proposed to lift the restrictions on accounts that are
old enough to be sure that they don’t belong to goldsellers
using 2 factor authorisation so it’s harder to hack them
I don’t see a reason to put restrictions on an account where you can be 99.9% sure that it will never be in the hands of a goldseller.
Billy doesn’t like 2-factor authentication so he doesn’t have it on his account. He’s been playing since headstart.
Billy’s account gets hacked. Hacker puts 2-factor authentication on the account, as a warning for when the original owner discovers his account’s been hacked.
The account now qualifies to send out mails unrestricted.
“Okay, you will all want this for the mobs this boss spawns and I thought to buy a few ahead of time. One for you, one for you, one for …. KITTEN!!!!!!”
No, it’s randomized. I’ve had it in force for more than an hour, but other times for only a few seconds.
You’ve sent two emails and then were unable to send any others for an hour? I send 3+ emails all the time and I’ve never seen anything like that. Are you sure that you weren’t trying to send the same mail multiple times in a row? the time out keeps get longer and longer if you try to circumvent it (the increment is slight to start with). Even then, I’m skeptical that you could actually get it as high as an hour.
Also, I’ve never been able to send 3 emails one after another, there’s always a delay of at least 20+ seconds (I haven’t tested to find out how consistent that is).
John Smith: “you should kill monsters, because killing monsters is awesome.”
