Guild Wars 2

Hi Guys,

Does anyone else think it would be awesome if we got an expansion to Elona or Cantha but at the same time still had the living world updates in tyria?

That way we could still take a shot at the dragons and see a new world also. As much as I like killing dragons, 6 in a row will probably get a bit boring..

As much as I want to explore both Cantha and Elona again, there are a few reasons why I think we would be better off getting the whole map of Tyria first.

If we look at the Open World content and mainly the PvE we already have, there are several issues that ANet must look into.
- To make a long post short, I’ll simply state that they must work with and expand upon their Dynamic Event and Task system.

- Imagine if they did give us both Cantha and Elona right now, where the content would be as unrefined as the ones in the zones of Tyria are (and by unrefined, I mean that the Dynamic Event system and their PvE concepts can get better, not that they are bad).
- If they later on made some serious changes that would almost perfect the original ideas behind the Dynamic Events, making the world seem living and breathing, then they’d have to change not only Tyria, but Cantha and Elona as well.

- The thing is, if they can tweak it now, get some things right as we open up the unexplored lands of Tyria and make it into what their vision for it was before launch, then the Cantha and Elona, we will (hopefully) eventually get to, be so much better for it.
- Dry Top has me immersed, but the pace of which we uncover the land, I feel, is too slow. Luckily the Living Story is enough for my current casual level of play to have me satisfied, but I read the forums and I see that for others, well, it is not enough.

- I hope that 2014/15 will bring some much needed changes and features into the game, which will help speed things up a bit.

They’ve mentioned on multiple occasions that Cantha won’t happen (And if it does, it won’t be even close to how people remember it).

That said, and to agree with Sinifair, they need to finish the area of Tyria first. There is the near entirety of the Maguuma Jungle they still need to get in there among other locations.

My opinion is on the table but I can’t give you a definite answer.

Seven Star Stalker.1740:

My opinion is on the table but I can’t give you a definite answer.

I see what you did there.
- Seriously though, I feel that people should stop whining about it, because it is all over the forums.
- The silence is a reaction from ANet’s part due to the immense amount of immature rage and hate from peple not understanding that ideas might change, or issues might come up that requires the content to be delayed (think of how long GW2 was delayed, in comparison to their original plans for year of release).

I will say though, that they are partly responsible for that hate themselves, because they never told us that Precursor Crafting (careful! Hot topic!) was back on the drawing board.
- They announced something, we expected it to be out in 2013 because ANet said that was what would happen. They never told us that problems occurred and that it wouldn’t be out as soon as they initially thought.

How do you know say an expansion would give you more then say the Living story? Its all content release at the end of the day just by different names just by the name of expansion they can charges you money but by the name of Living story they cant with out running to question of why they are charging now vs not before.

Jski.6180:

How do you know say an expansion would give you more then say the Living story? Its all content release at the end of the day just by different names just by the name of expansion they can charges you money but by the name of Living story they cant with out running to question of why they are charging now vs not before.

The sheer amount of substance and time to refine the content in an expansion is enough to counter your argument. Also, I’m tired of seeing new armor skins in the Gem Store and not something that a challenge in the game can provide (because many of these new armors are quite nice, actually).
- Greanted, I’ll say that the Living Story Season 2 brings about some quality storytelling in comparison to Season 1, but it’s ONE storyline, whereas in an expansion I’d expect many side missions and equally intriguing stories there.
- GW1’s campaigns would lead you through about 45% of the entire map. That’s more than 50% of the rest of each map to explore and to check out. Imagine if we’d only gotten the campaigns’ story missions of GW1 and nothing more. That’s what the Living Story is, more or less + some features, if you count them as “LW content.”
- We are all playing this one storyline, and if it is only this one storyline, ANet might as well have created a single player game.

- That isn’t to say I want the Living World gone, but I feel that the pace is a bit slow at the moment. I hope they can speed things up as they progress and learn.
- For Elona and (if it ever comes back to us) Cantha, I’d prefer an expansion. The rest of the zones in Tyria can tinker with the Living World concept.

Actually, Jski, the Living Story in GW2 would be the “campaign” as opposed to the campaigns of GW1. It’s the continuation of the main storyline, and there’s nothing wrong with that. I’m excited to see the next chapter, and I’m trying to figure out how best to interpret the vision… argh!
- The thing I’m missing, which the Living Story doesn’t deliver currently, is the side missions, all the other content and lore-hunting stuff, I’d like to dig into as well.
- Sure, there are new events in Dry Top, and yeah, they do count, but if we are to compare that to what an expansion could offer, well, it’s not enough, even over time.

Hope that kinds of clears it.
- But here’s to hoping that ANet can optimize their effeciency even further.

You guys still comply missing the point just because you call something an “expiation” dose not mean any thing beyond the name. An expiation can be any thing that simply adds on to a game. In a way your war cry of expiation is a doomed one because your not asking for more content your only asking for how you get that content.

One major point this is not GW1 stop thinking it is it will NEVER been GW1 get over your self.

to me if gw2 devs do decide to do an expansion they expansion should compliment living story expanding on the impact of the events of the living story like the current mordermoth story could be impacting some of the races in maguuma jungle and have them seeking refuge in rata sum and the grove this could be used in expansion to make more races selectable with the living story impact this could also help evolve the game it self there could also be add weapons gear/clothing styles maybe even some new legendary weapons included in that

Jski: That “expansion” really refers to “expand” and that it can expand as much or as little as it wants, I’m not going to argue against… however, while I can appreciate the effort behind LS and while I am curious to see what is possible with it, I will say that if a company is too lazy to expand on their game properly, they will lose players, especially if it is an MMO.

I’ll state once again that I like the second season so far. It’s much more refined than Season 1 and I’m engaged in the story.
- The only problem, as already stated, is that it is only one storyline that they’re progressing. They might as well have made a singleplayer game, which they’d have been able to polish and refine, since MMO’s makes for bigger headaches in terms of how you design your content for that many people (without losing the Massively Multiplayer part of it).
- What I’m saying here is with only this one storyline they might as well have made a single player game. They’d get more content done in the same amount of time. There’s opportunities for better gameplay mechanics as well.

An expansion should bring both single player content (you can’t expect people to constantly have friends to play with, even in an MMO) and multiplayer along with Massive Multiplayer content.

If they made a new expansion right now, I’d be satisified with:
1. Updated PvE content in the areas we already have.

2. Certain permanent changes to those zones (like, Jormag is on the move, and new, better and more refined Dynamic Events are popping up in the Shiverpeaks)

3. A total revamp of the World Bosses (like they did with Tequatl). Make those fights extra exciting and hard, and make the rewards worthwhile.

4. More dungeons + armor and weapons.

5. New weapons for professions (maybe the ability to swap weapon skills – each weapon having an AoE, a CC, etc. skills, and you have to pick one of the AoE/CC/etc. at your disposal).

- Basically this is just some changes to the core of the game that I think would make it a more enjoyable experience on top of the new features in the feature pack.
- I’d expect way more of an expansion, really… but I wouldn’t want an expansion before the core of the game simply clicks. It shouldn’t be so that when an expansions comes out, the old content is irrelevant, and I like how the Living World has the potential to make it so.

DaveyC.4398:

Hi Guys,

Does anyone else think it would be awesome if we got an expansion to Elona or Cantha but at the same time still had the living world updates in tyria?

Yes, it would be nice to get expansions and LW. How practically possible it is however…

GenoUnknown.7504:

They’ve mentioned on multiple occasions that Cantha won’t happen (And if it does, it won’t be even close to how people remember it).

That said, and to agree with Sinifair, they need to finish the area of Tyria first. There is the near entirety of the Maguuma Jungle they still need to get in there among other locations.

Not sure about the not happening thing. I seem to remember the tinfoil-hat theory being that Cantha was Asian themed and those evil-overlords at NCSoft also happen to be somewhere in Asia and are apparently very sensitive about it.

Jski.6180:

How do you know say an expansion would give you more then say the Living story? Its all content release at the end of the day just by different names just by the name of expansion they can charges you money but by the name of Living story they cant with out running to question of why they are charging now vs not before.

The working assumption seems to be that an expansion will deliver more content sooner in one big batch. But yes there’s really no guarantee other than what people have come to associate with the term expansion.