Guild Wars 2

Seeing that you, Arenanet, have so much troubles about people feedback on Field Of View, closing threads because of “personnal attacks” is only the confession that your choices are wrong.
Maybe it would be smarter to realize that if that discussion is getting “personnal”, it is because Arenanet choices on that matter get people sick.
If you don’t already know there is a link between vision and body balance.
You can get people sick only using moving images, and it is what you do and decide to keep on.
And stop giving us some bs reasons, like art or performances, the only thing that it does is getting people angrier.
So now it’s personnal, and it’s a matter of public health.

Seeing the first reactions, I edit to underline that the subject of the thread is not the reasons for chosing bad FoV (everything has already been said), it is about the result of thoses choices … people are getting angry !!

What balance? – if you have the money or are willing to use a custom res you can get a better FOV – balance has nothing to do with it at all.

And as for the lemon bit – not the same thing at all.

MajorMelchett.6042:

What balance? – if you have the money or are willing to use a custom res you can get a better FOV – balance has nothing to do with it at all.

And there are botters ingame. Is that justification for abandoning efforts to try to stop them and just let everyone bot?

No, it’s not.

The fact that a few people are able to increase their FoV via additional hardware does not mean we should ignore the balance issues which come with increased FoV and just let everyone do it.

And as for the lemon bit – not the same thing at all.

Please explain why.

Second time I’ve seen the lemon analogy, kinda weird since it doesn’t compare to the situation at all. This situation is more like Diet sodas used to contain aspertame and it was a health concern so now they all taste like that garbage splenda…

I don’t want this game to taste like splenda… the FoV is fine and the people that get sick should play shorter periods with their eyes not glued to the screen. I mentioned it before in another thread but people have played games with limited FoV for ages now and they’re not sitting here complaining about it because their bodies have adjusted to it.

Give it time, spend more time crying here if you start getting a headache then get some fresh air and you should be able to get back to the game without the problem for a while. Children get weened off habits all the time – adults need to learn some self control that’s the only problem I ever read in these threads.

Jestunhi.7429:

Yeah.

And companies who make lemon tarts should be forced to remove the lemons from their recipe because some people are allergic to lemons!

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Maybe you should wake up, companies that are making food are under sanitary surveillance and are often obliged to change some ingredients or recipes if they are dangerous.

Again, what balance?, and what has botters got to do with FOV? – i stated if you have the money (for 3 monitors) or use a custom res you can get a better FOV, that’s a fact, so giving people a FOV option doesn’t do anything to balance. – it simply gives people a choice to use what they prefer (or makes them feel less ill)

As for the lemon part, it’s not the same thing because it’s not the same thing, simple as that.

I was talking about body balance, equilibrium, the one that makes you keep walking or sometimes falling or vomit.
We all know that pvp balancing on camera settings is simply a fake argument (everyone has a different screen anyway), like art or performances, no need to keep arguing on that, it’s keeping people away from the real problem.

There have been some cool games made. A few of them gave me head-aches. So I didn’t play them. Lots of other choices out there.

Carnival rides also make me nauseous. But roller-coasters do not. So I quit riding carnival rides.

Never decided to verbally accost the people that made the game or carnival rides or have little tirades on the internet about it though.

Not taking the side of Anet here or defending their decision. Just trying to make a point that if something makes you ill, stop doing it until you can correct the problem. Don’t expect every one else to correct it for you. That kid that did 24 hours of sPvP for charity that had Muscular kittening Dystrophy didn’t come on here and rage that some of the mechanics or bindings or dexterity required to play some parts of the game were too hard for him or uncomfortable. He made adjustments and got the tools he needed to enjoy the game. Compared to that I can’t help but see your fit sort of petty.

Remind me of the joke “Dr., it hurts when I do this.” so the doctor says “Well don’t do that.”

Damai.1947:

I was talking about body balance, equilibrium, the one that makes you keep walking or sometimes falling or vomit.
We all know that pvp balancing on camera settings is simply a fake argument, like art or performances, no need to keep arguing on that, it’s keeping people away from the real problem.

We all know do we?

I must have forgotten that your opinion was also everyone elses…

Shame ANet knows better though, eh?

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As I have said in the many other threads, if they tie visibility of players / NPCs / mobs to line of sight (to stop FoV being exploited) then I’d be perfectly happy with it being able to be increased.

If the balance issue is negated then I couldn’t care less.

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Can a mod now tidy up this thread after deleting select posts but not the posts which quote them?

The thread no longer makes any sense…

Yes, people can’t read …
It’s was not about people own preferences.
It was about the choice of Arenanet not to listen to player complaints and the fact that those players are getting angry, and the only reaction of Arenanet is to close the discussion, getting them angrier …

Damai.1947:

Yes, people can’t read …
It’s was not about people own preferences.
It was about the choice of Arenanet not to listen to players complaints and the fact that those players are getting angry, and the only reaction of Arenanet is to close the discussion, getting them angrier …

Not listening to and disagreeing with making a change are two different things. They have explained the reasoning behind their decision in various threads. You might not agree with it. I do.

But, as I said, if they remove the balance issues caused by it (by linking PC / NPC / mob visibility to your characters LoS instead of the camera’s LoS) then I can’t think of any other reason not to add an FoV slider.

You might not agree with it … that’s right, but you can’t … not agree with it, they closed many uncomfortable thread about FoV, cutting any discussion. Is this the behaviour of someone having a good, realistic reason ?

Anet has more people to consider outside the people who complain on the forum.

I will not blame Anet for people’s inability to deal with issues as an adult.

Making it personal and shouting at people is childish behaviour. If you are so upset about this that you cannot control your language then it’s your own failing.

Again Anet need to consider more than just one group of players. What I get sick of (not literally duh), is people coming here thinking they are the majority of players completely exaggerating their first world problems.

Public health issue? Get real. That is so far beyond ridiculous as a statement, that anything else you said cannot be taken seriously.

If a game company can make you this angry, then you have personal issues. If you think it’s personal, then you are overstating your own importance in this. Reality check please.

Now I don’t say there isn’t an issue that needs to be addressed but this childish display of emotion is probably the worst way to make your case.

Damai.1947:

You might not agree with it … that’s right, but you can’t … not agree with it, they closed many uncomfortable thread about FoV, cutting any discussion. Is this the behaviour of someone having a good, realistic reason ?

Depends how many times it’s been discussed.

The phrase “Flogging a dead horse” springs to mind.

Basically, you can give feedback, but you cannot decide the direction of the game. It’s that simple. They have invested god knows how much in this game and they cannot simply make whatever changes are demanded by the vocal minority on the forum. If they did they’d soon have an awful mash up of different features, styles, functions, etc which barely work together.

Oh well.. I have my 90+ FoV, without using any shady software just the hardware I have, if that makes me an exploiter or some kind of cheater so be it. I find the whole discussion ridiculous at best.

@Gehenna
Follow your own advises … where did you shout ?
Get real too and put the words FoV or camera in the search field of the fora, maybe you’ll be able to see the overall problem.
There is an official thread about FoV, opened/closed by Arenanet, you should learn a lot there.
Anyway, don’t speak without a bit of knowlegde at least.

@Jetsunhi
We are getting closer of the only interesting questions here, that’s what I was talking about

You can also put in the words gold farmer, and bot, and suggestion, and account bound dyes, and DM system, and a number of other things. Threads get closed and deleted when they clutter up the boards with the same few people kittening over the same things over and over again that Anet has already spoke their bit on.

It’s nothing personal. You had an issues, they acknowledged it. You didn’t like the answer. Now FoV threads go buh-bye because there is nothing new to be added and nothing threads can do to change their minds.

Stop. You are making yourself look silly.