Guild Wars 2

I saw in another forum somewhere that the problem isn’t farming but the methods for farming. I was working on 250+250 crystalline dusts for the minstrel. (For other legendaries, it’s 500 of something, usually lodestones, right?)

Anyway, I’ve been karka farming, and I’m thankful for those who lead this. But, honestly, this is the least fun that I’ve ever had in an mmo or rpg. There’s just something non-fun about grinding so that you can buy what can’t be counted on to drop. I know that there are other ways to get the dust, but that just drives home my point.

It’s weird. And it feels like they are driving people to farm karkas due to high demand for them (?) Like I posted awhile ago, I did world completion and had 15 of those dusts to my name (and that world completion is counting plenty of temples, metas, etc.)

I’m trying to find the right word for it….rude?

To be clear, I’m not complaining about farming since many people are probably going to respond “Don’t want to work for something!!! People these days!!!”. No, I’m fine with farming for materials. Having to farm something else because you need things that can’t be counted on to drop much at all is the problem. Maybe you are fine with that. Then there’s not much point in you responding; you should get back to your unpaid job.

There are so many way in getting dust these days since they made ectos salvagable. You can get dust via crafting (salvaging the rare items you craft → salvaging the ektos you get out of it), via world events or via farming.

and how do you get ectos? salvage a rare? Look at the large sample raw data on that. And how often are rares even dropping? I’m at 130% MF and see about one per day. When I salvage it…well, again, look at the large sample data on ectos per mystic salvage kit.

And this is what I meant by “drives the point home”. No, sorry, 500 crystalines at a rate of 15 per world completion, which included 100s of world events…not sure who would do completion 33.33 times.

The problem is the methods. All of these ways to lose money or break even or dream of karkas are diversions from the type of farming that I and many others want. If I want frostweave cloth in wow, I know where to go. I know that it will take a long time for the amount that I need. I farm, do the work, and get the return. I don’t have to farm murlocs to get scales to sell on the AH for the leatherworkers to get the gold to get the frostweave. It’s possible, but it’s not “forced”.

to expand on the rares…you are once again better off selling that rare to the highest buyer for 23 silver (or whatever), buying the ecto at 30 silver (or whatever) and losing a few silver in that trade than you are counting on ectos from salvaging rares. And again…driving home the point….everything driving you somehow to use the cash shop.

Have you been doing world boss events?

1 guaranteed rare a day, plus a high chance of getting more from the big chest that is once per char, per day.

Well, you really just need to take into account opportunity cost.

If each dust is 15s, that then means every 15 silver you can accumulate is just 1 dust.

Thus, you don’t need to worry about trying to hunt dust itself, just 15 silver, then another 15 silver.

For example, if 1 soft wood tree gives 3 logs for a total of 6 silver, then roughly every 3 trees is a dust and you could farm it that way.

As for farming options in general, as I said my in thread they are lacking in viable options which can make the activites dull very fast. You wonder why people have such a tainted few of “farming” in this game, because this game has only had a small handful of good farming options at any given time.

Not sure I understand. You say it takes you a long time to farm the materials in WoW, and that’s ok. But if it takes a long time to farm the materials in GW2, it’s not ok? That’s confusing to me.

Knote.2904:

Well, you really just need to take into account opportunity cost.

If each dust is 15s, that then means every 15 silver you can accumulate is just 1 dust.

Thus, you don’t need to worry about trying to hunt dust itself, just 15 silver, then another 15 silver.

I think he knows this… perhaps this feels too “real world”?

A long time ago I would farm for armored scales. It felt exciting to get one as a drop! Now if I want armored scales, I farm gold — I don’t even bother looking at my drops before selling on the TP. It feels like work. Pretty interesting, considering I’m pretty much doing the same thing.

On the other hand, if you couldn’t buy crystalline dust — if it were account bound, you would be in the same situation as those who don’t have enough dragonite or empyreal fragments. I’m not sure which situation is worse.

Exactly. It’s purely psychological. One person may have no problem at all with this indirect method of gold farming to get the material. I know there are others like me to don’t find that fun because we prefer to see it drop. Hey, brandeds drop the other dusts with a realistic probability. After doing world completion and have 15 crystalines there is no way I’m farming for them in Orr. That would be one month, full-time for 15 dusts, which comes to almost three years.

I know who is the same boat but has it worse. That would be those after legendaries that requires cores. Anyway, there’s not much point in posting from me. I retired that toon and am just messing around with alts. I reached a point in wow where I was just waiting for the next decent game (which turned out to be this one)…now I’m in that boat again….well past the whining phase and just waiting.

You know how I farm dust? Or anything? Pump out some dungeons.

Level 80 dugeons = 60 tokens (first clear) = 2 vendor rares = 2 ectos (in the long term it is like 92-95% salvage rate) = 3-4 dust (usually 180% salvage rate, so 1.8 dust per ecto for instance); in addition to 26 silver dungeon completion and, in most cases, 1g daily completion, plus loot, is a minimum of 1.4g for completing any path. This will BUY you around 10 dust.

And the time investment? Well, as long as you’re not doing HotW2 or SE2, it should take around 20 mins with a pug on most paths.