Guild Wars 2

If you want to make money in this game you have 2 choices. Farm cof p1 or play the trading post. Seeing as how a big part of endgame content in GW2 is grinding for skins which more often than not requires money, why are we SEVERELY limited in the ways we can make money. Im not asking for every monster to drop t6 mats, but just a little consideration for the players who want to log on, kill monsters for an hour and make a bit of money. You can’t always log on and do cof p1 runs because you’re at the mercy of the group and the groups pace. By allowing us to farm like regular mmo players we can kill monsters at our own pace and not feel restricted in our ways to make money.

Im not asking for everything to be made easier, for t6 mats to go down in price or trying to subtly imply that i need things handed to me on a silver platter. Im just saying, think of giving the players some variety. GW1 I could farm raptors,vaettirs,ToPk, 55 monk various locations (trolls, jade brotherhood, undead outside bergens), and many other things. GW2 I have all these enemies I can kill, but after 5 hours of doing so, I’ll be lucky to make a 2g profit.

inb4 just run cof p1 and shut up
inb4 but you dont need skins to play the game
inb4 people who might be borderline ree kitten come in and try to argue with baseless counter arguments

Because you say anyone who disagrees with you has baseless arguments, you’ve shown yourself to be not worth arguing with.

Of course, there are people who play this game without farming and still seem to have a good time. I don’t so how that fits with your “thesis”.

Oh, I know. Maybe there are different types of players who play games for different reasons. Or is that too implausible for you?

You do realize that if they improved the drop rates of T6 it would become dirt cheap and you would once again come here complaining that you can’t make money?

If u make only 2g in 5 hours u are definitely doing something wrong.
There are enough farm locations which make a nice amount of gold. But other than the ones u mentioned there’s no get rich quick scheme.
Do chestevents, farm nodes, farm easy t6 mobs.

There’s more than enough to do. It just depends at what rates u wanna make gold.
U can farm charged lodes near arah, farm corrupted lodes in frostgorge, farm skells/karka’s on ssc. All give a decent return (although luck is required).
Farm loads of mobs for coffers and hope on wings and sell m etc etc

Heck I can make that amount by just simply playing the game… (dailies, event’s, some WvW fun and so on.
Why do people insist on forcing their ways on us as being the only right way? I’ve never even done cof…

Vayne.8563:

Because you say anyone who disagrees with you has baseless arguments, you’ve shown yourself to be not worth arguing with.

Of course, there are people who play this game without farming and still seem to have a good time. I don’t so how that fits with your “thesis”.

Oh, I know. Maybe there are different types of players who play games for different reasons. Or is that too implausible for you?

Im not trying to say people can’t have fun without farming. You’re trying to pick that argument out of your arsenal of retorts to try and shut my post down. Then you try and inform me that there are different strokes for different folks so you can try and be condescending. You never directly replied to the main message of the post which was asking if we could maybe have more spots to farm that are actually viable

Kootje.9271:

If u make only 2g in 5 hours u are definitely doing something wrong.
There are enough farm locations which make a nice amount of gold. But other than the ones u mentioned there’s no get rich quick scheme.
Do chestevents, farm nodes, farm easy t6 mobs.

There’s more than enough to do. It just depends at what rates u wanna make gold.
U can farm charged lodes near arah, farm corrupted lodes in frostgorge, farm skells/karka’s on ssc. All give a decent return (although luck is required).
Farm loads of mobs for coffers and hope on wings and sell m etc etc

corrupted lodes in frostgorge have been nerfed, charged lodestones I never got 1 to drop after many many tries and shells/karka havent been profitable for a while now.

And saying something like ‘’luck is required’’, you make it sound like players can just flip a switch and have good luck for 24 hours

There are a lot of viable spots, just depends on what u think is viable. What return are u expecting to reach per hour?

Balkanwarrior.5132:

Vayne.8563:

Because you say anyone who disagrees with you has baseless arguments, you’ve shown yourself to be not worth arguing with.

Of course, there are people who play this game without farming and still seem to have a good time. I don’t so how that fits with your “thesis”.

Oh, I know. Maybe there are different types of players who play games for different reasons. Or is that too implausible for you?

Im not trying to say people can’t have fun without farming. You’re trying to pick that argument out of your arsenal of retorts to try and shut my post down. Then you try and inform me that there are different strokes for different folks so you can try and be condescending. You never directly replied to the main message of the post which was asking if we could maybe have more spots to farm that are actually viable

I replied to part of the message of your post. The rest of your post has already been contradicted by other people.

I don’t farm, and I have money in this game. That’s a contradiction. But I’m far more interested in the fact that you tried to pre-emptively shut down all argument by calling them invalid before they were voiced….afterwhich you call ME condescending.

That’s pretty funny, all things considered.

Vayne.8563:

Balkanwarrior.5132:

Vayne.8563:

Because you say anyone who disagrees with you has baseless arguments, you’ve shown yourself to be not worth arguing with.

Of course, there are people who play this game without farming and still seem to have a good time. I don’t so how that fits with your “thesis”.

Oh, I know. Maybe there are different types of players who play games for different reasons. Or is that too implausible for you?

Im not trying to say people can’t have fun without farming. You’re trying to pick that argument out of your arsenal of retorts to try and shut my post down. Then you try and inform me that there are different strokes for different folks so you can try and be condescending. You never directly replied to the main message of the post which was asking if we could maybe have more spots to farm that are actually viable

I replied to part of the message of your post. The rest of your post has already been contradicted by other people.

I don’t farm, and I have money in this game. That’s a contradiction. But I’m far more interested in the fact that you tried to pre-emptively shut down all argument by calling them invalid before they were voiced….afterwhich you call ME condescending.

That’s pretty funny, all things considered.

Read the last thing you wrote. ‘’Oh, I know.’’ which means you’re behind that keyboard getting ready to educate me. ‘’Maybe there are different types of players who play games for different reasons’’ Next, you point out a piece of information that I’d assume is common sense. You saw that I didn’t directly imply it myself though, so you felt the need to bring it up yourself and remind me of it. (Again, as if I didn’t already know people have different reasons for playing) and then you top it off with ‘’Or is that too implausible for you?’’

Seriously bud, your comments read like you’re some unemployed liberal art degree holder on reddit. Voicing their opinion of every post/thread in the righteous name of ’’LOOKMOMIMARGUINGONTHEINTERNET’’

Then again, I should have known better than try and post my POV on the official arena net forums. It’s ok. I’ll keep the post up AND let you have the last word. I know it means a lot to a person like you

Balkanwarrior.5132:

Vayne.8563:

Balkanwarrior.5132:

Vayne.8563:

Because you say anyone who disagrees with you has baseless arguments, you’ve shown yourself to be not worth arguing with.

Of course, there are people who play this game without farming and still seem to have a good time. I don’t so how that fits with your “thesis”.

Oh, I know. Maybe there are different types of players who play games for different reasons. Or is that too implausible for you?

Im not trying to say people can’t have fun without farming. You’re trying to pick that argument out of your arsenal of retorts to try and shut my post down. Then you try and inform me that there are different strokes for different folks so you can try and be condescending. You never directly replied to the main message of the post which was asking if we could maybe have more spots to farm that are actually viable

I replied to part of the message of your post. The rest of your post has already been contradicted by other people.

I don’t farm, and I have money in this game. That’s a contradiction. But I’m far more interested in the fact that you tried to pre-emptively shut down all argument by calling them invalid before they were voiced….afterwhich you call ME condescending.

That’s pretty funny, all things considered.

Read the last thing you wrote. ‘’Oh, I know.’’ which means you’re behind that keyboard getting ready to educate me. ‘’Maybe there are different types of players who play games for different reasons’’ Next, you point out a piece of information that I’d assume is common sense. You saw that I didn’t directly imply it myself though, so you felt the need to bring it up yourself and remind me of it. (Again, as if I didn’t already know people have different reasons for playing) and then you top it off with ‘’Or is that too implausible for you?’’

Seriously bud, your comments read like you’re some unemployed liberal art degree holder on reddit. Voicing their opinion of every post/thread in the righteous name of ’’LOOKMOMIMARGUINGONTHEINTERNET’’

Then again, I should have known better than try and post my POV on the official arena net forums. It’s ok. I’ll keep the post up AND let you have the last word. I know it means a lot to a person like you

You can’t accept any personal responsibility at all. You end your OP with a post basically saying that anyone who disagrees with you is wrong…what did you expect? Flowers?

Kootje.9271:

There are a lot of viable spots, just depends on what u think is viable. What return are u expecting to reach per hour?

I can’t say I have a specific number in mind for a decent return. As it is now, any area I go into the drop rates are abysmal. All im trying to suggest with this thread was for anet to look at the drop rates across the board and tweak them. Giving us more locations to spend time in and and make some gold. Lately the dragon coffers have been good because they drop often from holo farming and when they were selling for 7s/ea it was great, but im trying to look at the long run here, seeing as how this festival is temporary

Balkanwarrior.5132:

If you want to make money in this game you have 2 choices. Farm cof p1 or play the trading post. Seeing as how a big part of endgame content in GW2 is grinding for skins which more often than not requires money, why are we SEVERELY limited in the ways we can make money. Im not asking for every monster to drop t6 mats, but just a little consideration for the players who want to log on, kill monsters for an hour and make a bit of money. You can’t always log on and do cof p1 runs because you’re at the mercy of the group and the groups pace. By allowing us to farm like regular mmo players we can kill monsters at our own pace and not feel restricted in our ways to make money.

Im not asking for everything to be made easier, for t6 mats to go down in price or trying to subtly imply that i need things handed to me on a silver platter. Im just saying, think of giving the players some variety. GW1 I could farm raptors,vaettirs,ToPk, 55 monk various locations (trolls, jade brotherhood, undead outside bergens), and many other things. GW2 I have all these enemies I can kill, but after 5 hours of doing so, I’ll be lucky to make a 2g profit.

inb4 just run cof p1 and shut up
inb4 but you dont need skins to play the game
inb4 people who might be borderline ree kitten come in and try to argue with baseless counter arguments

In the past couple of months I’ve managed to bank over 200gold.

That may or may not be a lot for some people, but its more gold that I “need” for what I want in the game. Because I’ve already outfitted two level 80 characters with exotics (some ascended on both but not complete) and the style of weapons/armor I want for each character, upgraded bags and bank slots, there isn’t much I “need” to spend my gold on.

I only play for 2-4 hours at night after work, and I’m lucky to have a few weekends free each month to get in some longer play time. I NEVER farm. I do not run CoF. What I do is run my daily (takes 30-45 minutes) while also running meta-events. Usually I can hit up 4-5 meta events within the first hour of play while simultaneously completing my daily. With those two things alone I’ve made about 1 gold in my first hour of play.

On average I’ll end up banking 1-2 gold per day of playing. Just take what gold you make and deposit it into your bank, leaving only 50s on your character for traveling/repairing armor, etc. You will be amazed at how quickly your gold adds up. I think the more you focus on it, and the more you make it the point of playing (rather than playing for the enjoyment of playing the game) the worse it gets. There is an old saying that “A watched pot never boils”.

Vayne.8563:

Oh, I know. Maybe there are different types of players who play games for different reasons. Or is that too implausible for you?

Or translated:
“I already have my legendary and I don’t care that it’s harder to get one now, because its not my problem”.

pricer.5091:

Vayne.8563:

Oh, I know. Maybe there are different types of players who play games for different reasons. Or is that too implausible for you?

Or translated:
“I already have my legendary and I don’t care thakittens harder to get one now, because its not my problem”.

I answered stuff like this LONG before I had my legendary. Matter of record. The only reason I cared about a legendary at all was to get that stupid blank icon off my front page, and I was quite content to take my time to get it. Nice try though.

Balkanwarrior.5132:

Kootje.9271:

There are a lot of viable spots, just depends on what u think is viable. What return are u expecting to reach per hour?

I can’t say I have a specific number in mind for a decent return. As it is now, any area I go into the drop rates are abysmal. All im trying to suggest with this thread was for anet to look at the drop rates across the board and tweak them. Giving us more locations to spend time in and and make some gold. Lately the dragon coffers have been good because they drop often from holo farming and when they were selling for 7s/ea it was great, but im trying to look at the long run here, seeing as how this festival is temporary

Anet has already said they’re reviewing the loot system and should have it updated by the end of the summer.

Stone.6751:

In the past couple of months I’ve managed to bank over 200gold.

That may or may not be a lot for some people, but its more gold that I “need” for what I want in the game.

Good. I’m happy for you, but if you want a legendary you are about 1800g short. Irrespective of whether you buy it or craft it.

Vayne.8563:

pricer.5091:

Vayne.8563:

Oh, I know. Maybe there are different types of players who play games for different reasons. Or is that too implausible for you?

Or translated:
“I already have my legendary and I don’t care thakittens harder to get one now, because its not my problem”.

I answered stuff like this LONG before I had my legendary. Matter of record. The only reason I cared about a legendary at all was to get that stupid blank icon off my front page, and I was quite content to take my time to get it. Nice try though.

Its not a “try”. You are continually interjecting into threads that simply don’t affect you. Why?

pricer.5091:

Vayne.8563:

pricer.5091:

Vayne.8563:

Oh, I know. Maybe there are different types of players who play games for different reasons. Or is that too implausible for you?

Or translated:
“I already have my legendary and I don’t care thakittens harder to get one now, because its not my problem”.

I answered stuff like this LONG before I had my legendary. Matter of record. The only reason I cared about a legendary at all was to get that stupid blank icon off my front page, and I was quite content to take my time to get it. Nice try though.

Its not a “try”. You are continually interjecting into threads that simply don’t affect you. Why?

People who say stuff like if you argue with me you’re wrong, before hearing the argument affect EVERYONE. I have no problem with reasonable people. In this case I have a problem with the OP attempting to shut down arguments before they happen. I think it’s bad for the forum and that affects me.

I commented on the part of the post that affected me. I consider that on topic.

Fair enough. So we’ll expect no more on the subject of loot drops being nerfed or not then….seeing as you don’t care.

Because to be honest, the only people complaining about loot are the ones who DO want skins…..so what is the point of people who DONT want skins continually saying that the people who do want skins should not want skins. Especially when everyone, as the very same people arguing about it keep stating over and over again, should be free to play their way.

Especially when in fact, they already have those skins?

So bored of this topic it makes my eyes bleed.

pricer.5091:

Fair enough. So we’ll expect no more on the subject of loot drops being nerfed or not then….seeing as you don’t care.

I’ll comment if and when I please. If I see something that’s obviously bull, I’ll comment on it.

Even the word nerf is interesting. Like the skelk on Southsun which spawned too fast. Everyone said it was a nerf but it was, according to Anet a bug fix.

I do believe that Anet has adjusted loot tables for some areas. They’ve done it with the intent of getting people out of Orr and into the rest of the world. They’ve done it in a number of ways. They’ve done it with dailies, they’ve done it with changing events to make them harder, they’ve done it by taking loot of spider hatchlings, they’ve done it by making other content more profitable. Obviously there’s a method to their madness. They’re not doing it for no reason at all.

Probably the best thing for Anet would do would be to discuss this stuff with us, instead of just making changes. It would cut down on a lot of needless speculation. But of course, every time something is said, it’s a kittenstorm anyway, so I guess I can see why they don’t.

Vayne.8563:

I’ll comment if and when I please.

Yes I like the sound of my own voice too.

Hi everyone,

We would like to ask you to please, get back on topic and refrain from engaging in personal attacks. Remember, the forums are a place for discussion and everyone is allowed to give their opinion.

Thanks for your understanding.

pricer.5091:

Because to be honest, the only people complaining about loot are the ones who DO want skins…..so what is the point of people who DONT want skins continually saying that the people who do want skins should not want skins. Especially when everyone, as the very same people arguing about it keep stating over and over again, should be free to play their way.

Especially when in fact, they already have those skins?

So bored of this topic it makes my eyes bleed.

That’s what the inb4 is for. I put it there to try and stop those people from coming and repeating that same exact wordage. Even when their opinion isn’t being challenged they still enter threads and defend themselves, their honor, their virignity, god knows what

Do they type these messages or are these auto-replies…

Anyways back on topic, i’ll be going for the girlie dreamer, but it’ll be a long way for me, it doesn’t go fast in this game, but it ain’t slow either. As said just bank and don’t spend and in a month u’ll have a nice sum…

(i always make the mistake of giving all i have to zomorro’s that’s why i’m always broke )

pricer.5091:

Stone.6751:

In the past couple of months I’ve managed to bank over 200gold.

That may or may not be a lot for some people, but its more gold that I “need” for what I want in the game.

Good. I’m happy for you, but if you want a legendary you are about 1800g short. Irrespective of whether you buy it or craft it.

Really? Why is that? Are you assuming its required that I buy it or buy a precursor? Because neither of those are required purchases.

Balkanwarrior.5132:

If you want to make money in this game you have 2 choices. Farm cof p1 or play the trading post. Seeing as how a big part of endgame content in GW2 is grinding for skins which more often than not requires money, why are we SEVERELY limited in the ways we can make money. Im not asking for every monster to drop t6 mats, but just a little consideration for the players who want to log on, kill monsters for an hour and make a bit of money. You can’t always log on and do cof p1 runs because you’re at the mercy of the group and the groups pace. By allowing us to farm like regular mmo players we can kill monsters at our own pace and not feel restricted in our ways to make money.

Im not asking for everything to be made easier, for t6 mats to go down in price or trying to subtly imply that i need things handed to me on a silver platter. Im just saying, think of giving the players some variety. GW1 I could farm raptors,vaettirs,ToPk, 55 monk various locations (trolls, jade brotherhood, undead outside bergens), and many other things. GW2 I have all these enemies I can kill, but after 5 hours of doing so, I’ll be lucky to make a 2g profit.

inb4 just run cof p1 and shut up
inb4 but you dont need skins to play the game
inb4 people who might be borderline ree kitten come in and try to argue with baseless counter arguments

Because we are expected to buy gems with real money and trade for in-game gold.

Stone.6751:

Really? Why is that? Are you assuming its required that I buy it or buy a precursor? Because neither of those are required purchases.

Nope, its assuming that you will have to buy everything else, the T6 Mats, the lodestones etc etc…because if you wait for them to drop you will be waiting a VERY long time indeed.

pricer.5091:

Nope, its assuming that you will have to buy everything else, the T6 Mats, the lodestones etc etc…because if you wait for them to drop you will be waiting a VERY long time indeed.

I think his point was that he doesn’t need a legendary to enjoy the game.

pricer.5091:

Stone.6751:

In the past couple of months I’ve managed to bank over 200gold.

That may or may not be a lot for some people, but its more gold that I “need” for what I want in the game.

Good. I’m happy for you, but if you want a legendary you are about 1800g short. Irrespective of whether you buy it or craft it.

1800g short? Where did you get that number? Have you crafted a legendary?

pricer.5091:

Stone.6751:

Really? Why is that? Are you assuming its required that I buy it or buy a precursor? Because neither of those are required purchases.

Nope, its assuming that you will have to buy everything else, the T6 Mats, the lodestones etc etc…because if you wait for them to drop you will be waiting a VERY long time indeed.

But what if I play the game for the sake of playing a game, and just let the rewards and loot happen rather than grinding and farming for them (bc I think both are silly ways to spend time enjoying a video game). Eventually I will have collected many of the materials already. And honestly, I think thats fitting. I shouldn’t be a Legend until I’m truly a legend.

Stone.6751:

pricer.5091:

Stone.6751:

Really? Why is that? Are you assuming its required that I buy it or buy a precursor? Because neither of those are required purchases.

Nope, its assuming that you will have to buy everything else, the T6 Mats, the lodestones etc etc…because if you wait for them to drop you will be waiting a VERY long time indeed.

But what if I play the game for the sake of playing a game, and just let the rewards and loot happen rather than grinding and farming for them (bc I think both are silly ways to spend time enjoying a video game). Eventually I will have collected many of the materials already. And honestly, I think thats fitting. I shouldn’t be a Legend until I’m truly a legend.

Didn’t you know, everyone here ARE legends, even if only in their own minds. -LOL

So…..I’m not making money just by playing the game? I don’t get loot, or materials, or whatever while I just do my own thing? /sarcasm

I make enough money for my needs just by playing. Mind you, occasionally my playing consists of an hour of running from gathering node to gathering node, sometimes its running from low level event to low level event to help some random new player, sometimes it’s poking around in a map I haven’t completely explored yet. So, I have to disagree that the ‘only ways’ to make money are to run some brain-dead speedclear or play the auction house. I made gold hand over fist in GW1 w/o speed clearing or power trading, I’ll be able to do it again here. Of this, I have no doubts.

I think the most focused you are on gold acquisition in a “reasonable” amount of time, the more pressure you put on your enjoyment of the game.

Logically speaking, if you must have X amount by Y time, and you can’t get it, you’ll feel disappointed. There’s nothing in the game that says you have to do this. It’s in you.

And if you want to be disappointed, well…nothing anyone can say will stop you.

I try to put less pressure on games by playing them without placing artificial requirements on them. So I don’t say I have to have X by Y, I say, I’m going to have some fun.

The more external factors you try to superimpose on a game the less chance it will be enjoyable. Certainly that’s true of themepark MMOs if nothing else.

Same old boring observations, hee are the facts….again:

1) No one is asking for MORE T6 mats to drop…they are asking them to be put back to their previous rate. The one no-one complained about.

2) Just because YOU don’t want a legendary to enjoy the game….does not mean EVERYONE thinks like you.

3) A legendary, although always an effort to get is in most peoples eyes (myself included) is now just not worth bothering with…this was not the case 3 months ago. Indeed it is vastly unfair to change the drop rates of the items required when people have already achieved there goal when rates were reasonable.

4) Playing the auction house is an option that a LOT of people do not want to have to endure. This is an action based MMO…not a futures trading simulator. If I wanted to have spreadsheets and analyse the markets in order to make a killing and was capable fo being remotely succesful at this I would not be doing it here. I would be doing it with real money in real markets. This game is not a job.

5) Seriously, who cares about your observations? The sheer number of complaints about the loot issue are an indicator that a LOT of people aren’t happy. Not fixing this will eventually damage the game for everybody, because a lot of people will not play. Without players (and more importantly players who are happy to spend cash) this game will die. This will affect you whether or not you care about loot and legendaries.

6) That there has been absolutely no official response to thousands and thousands of posts about this issue is a very real indicator that the publisher and the developer do not care. Again, this is an issue.

7) Your thoughts on the matter are not relevant and have been repeated hundreds and hundreds of times.

8) The complainers thoughts ARE relevant and require an OFFICIAL response, not some speculative objection to the complaint based on YOUR personal theory that everyone should play the game like you do and want the same things out of it that you do.

There really is nothing at all worth saying on this topic unless an official response is received to any of the hundreds of threads that have already asked for one.

Your objections are adding nothing, the question has been asked, the developers need to answer…and then people can decide if they want to abandon the game and leave it to the people who dont want it changing.

An official response to WHAT?

The company made changes to their game that THEY thought were necessary. SOME people don’t like those changes. What should the company come and say?

Sorry, we did this because we thought (and still think) it was necessary? I know you don’t like it, but too bad?

Maybe it’s not that they don’t care, but there’s actually nothing TO say. They’re not going to fix something they don’t feel is broken even if YOU feel it’s broken.

It’s like people going on a profession forum and saying X profession is OP. A million people may say it, but that doesn’t make it so. What should the devs do? Go and say, we understand you believe it to be broken but you’re wrong?

No matter what the devs say, they’re going to lose on this one, unless they plan on changing it back…and I don’t think they do.

It doesn’t mean they don’t care. They’re doing what they feel they have to. Assuming that not answering is not caring is just a bad assumption.

It’s entirely possible that they think you’re wrong…which isn’t the same as not caring.

But there is something they need to say. They need to say “Yes we reduced the drop rates of T6 Mats and no, it is not a bug and we are not going to change it”

Or any answer at all….

Because based on that, people can decide if they want to continue to play a game whose only purpose is to part them their money to achieve aims that have been there since the game launched and were never this unattainable.

I bought X, I did not buy Y. Ig the game is now Y…tell me it’s Y and I will decide if I like it. If not, I honestly dont care…I’ll go do something else.

But my initial purchase and all the gem purchases I have made actually do “entitle” me to an answer. This is a product.

Actually no. You’re not ENTITLED to an answer. Because there might not even be “an” answer.

You’re seeing all this as ONE issue. There may be several or many issues. For example, people complained about the skelk nerf on Southsun. So a dev came on and said, look it was a bug, too many were spawning, we fixed the bug.

Now that’s one case and one incident of one thing. Not everything you see is a nerf is a nerf. In your mind this is all under one umbrella, but what if it’s not. What if several situations all occurred and some things were nerfed and some were fixed and some are bugged…what THEN should the developer say.

You may well be asking a question to which there is no actual answer.

But there is an answer. The answer is that “the perceived drop rate nerf you are experiencing is
a) In your mind….seriously theres not a problem
b) in order to improve the economy. Rates will be adjusted on a regular basis
c) something which we are investigating due to the number of complaints
d) entirely by design, we have people to pay and we need you to buy stuff
e) a bug, we are working on a fix
f) not something we even care to tell you about, so shut up”

And you are right, I am not actually ENTITLED to an answer, which is why I put it in speech marks. However I do deserve one, as I have actively supported the game by spending money on it and won’t continue to do that unless I get one. I am the customer. The customer is always right.

Well…the thing is…it’s the perceived drop rate of each individual place, may be an individual answer. Which means there is no “one” answer, which is much harder to do.

First they’d have to go and figure out which specific areas your talking about and then they’d have to give you a separate answer for each.

Human beings are awesome at seeing patterns, even where patterns don’t exist. That’s how the ancients saw centaurs in the stars. There aren’t actually any centaurs in the stars, they’re all in the Harathi Hinterlands.

The point is you want “an” answer, but there may be many. As we’ve already heard the one about the scale, and we know for a fact that a while back they changed Orr to make it harder…because they said so.

Now if you were asking about one nerf, it might be easier to get an answer, but from watching and listening, I see a range of things all lumped together that might very well muddy the issue.

pricer.5091:

Same old boring observations, hee are the facts….again:

1) No one is asking for MORE T6 mats to drop…they are asking them to be put back to their previous rate. The one no-one complained about.

2) Just because YOU don’t want a legendary to enjoy the game….does not mean EVERYONE thinks like you.

3) A legendary, although always an effort to get is in most peoples eyes (myself included) is now just not worth bothering with…this was not the case 3 months ago. Indeed it is vastly unfair to change the drop rates of the items required when people have already achieved there goal when rates were reasonable.

4) Playing the auction house is an option that a LOT of people do not want to have to endure. This is an action based MMO…not a futures trading simulator. If I wanted to have spreadsheets and analyse the markets in order to make a killing and was capable fo being remotely succesful at this I would not be doing it here. I would be doing it with real money in real markets. This game is not a job.

5) Seriously, who cares about your observations? The sheer number of complaints about the loot issue are an indicator that a LOT of people aren’t happy. Not fixing this will eventually damage the game for everybody, because a lot of people will not play. Without players (and more importantly players who are happy to spend cash) this game will die. This will affect you whether or not you care about loot and legendaries.

6) That there has been absolutely no official response to thousands and thousands of posts about this issue is a very real indicator that the publisher and the developer do not care. Again, this is an issue.

7) Your thoughts on the matter are not relevant and have been repeated hundreds and hundreds of times.

8) The complainers thoughts ARE relevant and require an OFFICIAL response, not some speculative objection to the complaint based on YOUR personal theory that everyone should play the game like you do and want the same things out of it that you do.

There really is nothing at all worth saying on this topic unless an official response is received to any of the hundreds of threads that have already asked for one.

Your objections are adding nothing, the question has been asked, the developers need to answer…and then people can decide if they want to abandon the game and leave it to the people who dont want it changing.

A very consise and to the point post, especially #6 which I took the liberty to underline italicize and bold to the fact.

Only thing in this Thread worth repeating, is that COF needs to be brought in line with other Dungeons and Anet won’t likely do that until this ‘end of Summer’ Rewards overhaul.

Tradepost flipping is obviously something that we’re stuck with as long as John Smith is the acting “C.F.O.”. He’s a very clever fellow and will enforce this justification at the slightest provocation using very technical and assuring real-world market rhetoric in a tone much like that Krait Oil salesman we hear everyday in L.A. (and that’s exactly what I want everyone to audibly visualize, everytime they hear a justification for Market Speculating). But the real truth is that it just makes his Job a lot easier…

And that’s what this is really about. Anet won’t throw redundant effort at everyone’s little personal Crises` until there’s a way to do it over the horizon that makes their jobs easier. U.W. overhaul, perfect example of this… came side-by-side with the shadowtank change. These problems with player rewards are in the same boat, they don’t have a robust framework for it yet so bear with the stupid mini-metas in the meantime.

Just get rid of everything in the game apart from the trading post and Lions Arch, then once you have proven how big your metaphorical sphericals are after a hard day on the trading floor attempting to make a profit whilst cunningly avoiding the pitfalls of the mega-boss “15% TP fee” you can buy a new sword and go swing it about in front of the trading post.

Its no coincidence that the new armour features a shirt and tie effect, clearly they want everyone to be Gordon Gecko.

pricer.5091:

Just get rid of everything in the game apart from the trading post and Lions Arch, then once you have proven how big your metaphorical sphericals are after a hard day on the trading floor attempting to make a profit whilst cunningly avoiding the pitfalls of the mega-boss “15% TP fee” you can buy a new sword and go swing it about in front of the trading post.

Its no coincidence that the new armour features a shirt and tie effect, clearly they want everyone to be Gordon Gecko.

If you were Gordon Gecko you could afford to buy gems to sell for gold. grins

This is true, but unfortunately I’m too busy being lost in fantasy world to turn my undoubted genius into cold hard cakitten

hink I may need to go to Sad Nerds Anonymous

Seriously? “C A S H” is now in the profanity filter? Well, thats rich.

Cant work out if the forum sucks harder than the game?

I think its the forum to be honest though. I might go farming instead.

Farming what? There’s nothing to do