Guild Wars 2

We need meaningful updates in between now and HoT. Festival and gem store updates are not enough. Feb is a perfect time to implement a feature patch since it’s been five month since the last one.

Simply stating they need one wont do much. Giving feedback would help more than stating it.

I’d be surprised to see a feature pack before HoT. For whatever reason Anet struggles to create new content. I see Anet riding the “expansion is coming!!” wave all the way until it comes out.

Riku.4821:

Simply stating they need one wont do much. Giving feedback would help more than stating it.

He’s letting Anet know that he doesn’t feel there is enough content to hold the game over until the expansion.

How is that not feedback?

Lord Kuru.3685:

Riku.4821:

Simply stating they need one wont do much. Giving feedback would help more than stating it.

He’s letting Anet know that he doesn’t feel there is enough content to hold the game over until the expansion.

How is that not feedback?

What Riku prob meant to say is that more detail than “feature pack please” is more helpful. ie what would the OP like to see in a feature pack between now and then. Or what would they class as a feature pack.

The thing is, if they don’t have a feature pack ready already, there’s absolutely no chance of them releasing one.

Either they have one planned and we’ll get one, or they don’t have one planned and there’s nothing to release.

I’m sorry… all I see is an overbearing sense of entitlement. The game has plenty for people to do and work on. I have over ten lvl 80 characters and they all have things they can work on. Ascended equipment outfitting, W3 rank, sPvP, material gathering for the new upcoming legendaries and precursor crafting. Don’t tell me you don’t have anything to do because you’re just lazy.

I don’t mean to knock the September Feature Pack, because there are more than enough threads for or against various parts of it elsewhere, but it wasn’t exactly brimming with new content. I’ll leave its merits and flaws to other threads, but I think it’s a mistake to assume that a Feature Pack necessarily includes a big content addition to keep people occupied.

I think Riku is right on the money here: What would you like to see in the next feature pack, before Heart of Thorns, if it were possible?

Actually feature packs are specifically devoid of content. Their purpose is to add features or quality of life improvements to the game, not content. That’s by design.

I think they should bring out their new version of the trait system before HoT. If they do that people can get their characters ready for the expansion. I refuse to farm for or purchase traits under the current system since they are going to change it.

I thought people wanted the expansion and nothing else. Living Story and feature packs suck, remember?

A lot of people don’t have a clear idea of what they want, I guess.

But if they do release a feature patch, the things I expect them to fix for one is the Personal Story issues. The one involving the restoration of the chapters back to what they were before along with fixing a few heart quests that felt broken (for instance, the one quest where you have to fight caged monsters in the Plains of Ashford), and bringing back the various activities in the early stages of the game. That’s pretty much all I desire with a new feature patch.

I get the feeling that the x-pack is coming out in april. I can wait.

Ardenwolfe.8590:

I thought people wanted the expansion and nothing else. Living Story and feature packs suck, remember?

Is that really what you remember people saying? I remember people asking for both expansions and updates in between the expansions. I don’t think I have ever seen someone say they didn’t want both. Many people said the living story and feature packs suck without expansions being released as well.

Then you weren’t paying attention a few months ago.

Ardenwolfe.8590:

Then you weren’t paying attention a few months ago.

You saw people say that they want only an expansion with zero living story or feature patch updates or balanced updates in between? If you really did see someone say that, it was likely an isolated case.

A lot of isolated cases, I suppose.

they said ls aint cutting it we want expansion… ei saying we dont want ls we want expansions

oh come now, it’s obvious people want

1. Mounts.
2. Capes
3. Land spears.
4. A bazillion new maps
5. Quaggan/Tengu/Kodan/Skritt/Hylek playable races
6. Raids.
7. An end to zerkers.

(did I miss anything?)

Fernling.1729:

Ardenwolfe.8590:

Then you weren’t paying attention a few months ago.

You saw people say that they want only an expansion with zero living story or feature patch updates or balanced updates in between? If you really did see someone say that, it was likely an isolated case.

It was a very common opinion, actually. Not zero updates in between – especially if you’re including things like balance patches – but no more living story, or major delivery of content outside expansions.

Olvendred.3027:

It was a very common opinion, actually. Not zero updates in between – especially if you’re including things like balance patches – but no more living story, or major delivery of content outside expansions.

Which we argued wouldn’t make any sense. No content updates for months or years between? And they said, yes. That’s what we want.

I know, I know. But that was their stand on it.

And here we are.

Ardenwolfe.8590:

I thought people wanted the expansion and nothing else. Living Story and feature packs suck, remember?

they probably want what they have come to expect with other big MMOs, both.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/special/patchnote_log/
http://www.zam.com/wiki/Update_History_%28FFXI%29#2003_Updates

like you see here.

an expansion isnt a favor, its something people will be paying for. Why is it other companies can do both, but asking from the same here is too much?

Now im not saying this is their actual policy, but you imply its one or the other, and i see no reason it should be

Azrael.4960:

oh come now, it’s obvious people want

1. Mounts.
2. Capes
3. Land spears.
4. A bazillion new maps
5. Quaggan/Tengu/Kodan/Skritt/Hylek playable races
6. Raids.
7. An end to zerkers.

(did I miss anything?)

U DARE TO FORGET SAB??!! =)

sMihaly.1492:

Azrael.4960:

oh come now, it’s obvious people want

1. Mounts.
2. Capes
3. Land spears.
4. A bazillion new maps
5. Quaggan/Tengu/Kodan/Skritt/Hylek playable races
6. Raids.
7. An end to zerkers.

(did I miss anything?)

U DARE TO FORGET SAB??!! =)

Riot in LA

Azrael.4960:

oh come now, it’s obvious people want

1. Mounts.
2. Capes
3. Land spears.
4. A bazillion new maps
5. Quaggan/Tengu/Kodan/Skritt/Hylek playable races
6. Raids.
7. An end to zerkers.

(did I miss anything?)

Trinity. Or is that part of an end to zerkers?

phys.7689:

Ardenwolfe.8590:

I thought people wanted the expansion and nothing else. Living Story and feature packs suck, remember?

they probably want what they have come to expect with other big MMOs, both.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/special/patchnote_log/
http://www.zam.com/wiki/Update_History_%28FFXI%29#2003_Updates

like you see here.

an expansion isnt a favor, its something people will be paying for. Why is it other companies can do both, but asking from the same here is too much?

Now im not saying this is their actual policy, but you imply its one or the other, and i see no reason it should be

Name one btp mmo who have given away as much as gw2 please.

Comparing it to a sub game that can count on a steady income and have to pump out content to keep that income aint fair.

Edit
Even if you buy all the content you can with cash i dubt it gets over 180$ a year.
So why are people complaning about 1 expansion in 3 years again?

zenleto.6179:

Azrael.4960:

oh come now, it’s obvious people want

1. Mounts.
2. Capes
3. Land spears.
4. A bazillion new maps
5. Quaggan/Tengu/Kodan/Skritt/Hylek playable races
6. Raids.
7. An end to zerkers.

(did I miss anything?)

Trinity. Or is that part of an end to zerkers?

Eliminating the zerker problem doesn’t necessary mean that the game will get the holy trinity.
If there is no mechanic for dedicated healing, and the enemy AI can’t get agroed by a single player, the trinity wouldn’t work no mater how much defense and Healing power a profession might have.
IMO the Zerker problem can be solved with Scenarios where being a Glass Cannon will work at your disadvantage, buy having enemies punishing overdamaging (instead of the current opposite system where they have timers), or putting players in hazardous situations that they can’t avoid by dodge-rolling.
The best way to do that is to have properly designed dungeons, but We haven’t heard about that in years.

What the guy missed is:
8. More emotes

And my personal input is:
9. Less item overload.

Not to point out the dreadfully obvious, but this ain’t Final Fantasy nor whatever that other nonsense was. This is Guild Wars 2. And, after three years, I sure hope people know what to expect.

Need some QOL in Feature patch that adds an “Open All” function on containers/bags/etc

Lord Kuru.3685:

I’d be surprised to see a feature pack before HoT. For whatever reason Anet struggles to create new content. I see Anet riding the “expansion is coming!!” wave all the way until it comes out.

Why would ArenaNets supposed struggle to create new content have to do with a Feature Pack though?
Feature Packs doesn’t add content, they add Features.

Alright OP.

What Feature NEEDS to be added before the expansion?

Without answering that, it would seem rather silly to claim that there needs to be a Feature Patch.

Azrael.4960:

oh come now, it’s obvious people want

1. Mounts.
2. Capes
3. Land spears.
4. A bazillion new maps
5. Quaggan/Tengu/Kodan/Skritt/Hylek playable races
6. Raids.
7. An end to zerkers.

(did I miss anything?)

Mounted dueling as caped non-zerker Quaggans while raiding and wielding land spears on a new map.

kuittaa.7360:

Azrael.4960:

oh come now, it’s obvious people want

1. Mounts.
2. Capes
3. Land spears.
4. A bazillion new maps
5. Quaggan/Tengu/Kodan/Skritt/Hylek playable races
6. Raids.
7. An end to zerkers.

(did I miss anything?)

Mounted dueling as caped non-zerker Quaggans while raiding and wielding land spears on a new map.

While flying.

A meaningful update doesn’t require a Feature Patch.

It means removing some of the ‘features’ from previous Feature patches.

Pretty much the only things I really want are things that are/were programmed:

1) Traits fixed.
2) SAB turned back on. W1 and W2 will do.
3) The daily login section moved on the achievement tab. I don’t normally care about that stuff, but that one is both ugly and inconvenient. Its a tiny, tiny complaint, but its there.
4) First person mode.
5) The personal story back in order.
6) Hobosacks turned off.

Things like build saves and the like would be nice. But an amazing feature patch could be put out for me without really having to do anything. Just restore some things that were broken, and turn some thing on/off (I realise in programming terms that’s not quite so simple, but still).

CrashTestAuto.9108:

Pretty much the only things I really want are things that are/were programmed:

1) Traits fixed.
2) SAB turned back on. W1 and W2 will do.
3) The daily login section moved on the achievement tab. I don’t normally care about that stuff, but that one is both ugly and inconvenient. Its a tiny, tiny complaint, but its there.
4) First person mode.
5) The personal story back in order.
6) Hobosacks turned off.

Things like build saves and the like would be nice. But an amazing feature patch could be put out for me without really having to do anything. Just restore some things that were broken, and turn some thing on/off (I realise in programming terms that’s not quite so simple, but still).

1) This is needed and I hope its implemented.
2) Would be nice but its not that important atm.
3) Meh.
4) Stop asking for something that is useless in game.
5) The order of personal story is weird and disjointed. So would be nice.

Both number 1 and number 5 have been confirmed to change.
Number 1 with HoT and number 5 is currently being worked on.

BlkPrince.2854:

1) This is needed and I hope its implemented.
2) Would be nice but its not that important atm.
3) Meh.
4) Stop asking for something that is useless in game.
5) The order of personal story is weird and disjointed. So would be nice.

I disagree about the importance of (2). Personally I love SAB, but more importantly, the current Lunar festival is a horrendous introduction to new players regarding what ANet actually do. There are a lot of new players in at the moment, and we have about the worst example of temporary content we’ve had active. SAB is programmed, and the box is right there. If ANet are too busy with HoT to program new stuff, then unless we’re going to have Wintersday in March, its pretty much perfect.

Regarding (4). The game is beautiful, and the end game is aesthetics. I don’t see how improving our ability to look at things is “useless”.

I don’t know if we need a ‘feature pack’, but another profession balance patch to iron out some of the last of the really big issues before any new specialization mechanics are introduced with Heart of Thorns? That is what I could consider ‘needed’.

In fact it’s more necessary that anything else in the game.

If I had to guess, any feature pack or fix will be included in or with the expansion when it’s released. Nothing else, as far as updates, will come about until then because it wouldn’t make any sense.

Heart of Thorns is the focus for now. Everything else is moot. This iddy-bitty seasonal event didn’t tell everyone that already?

Ardenwolfe.8590:

If I had to guess, any feature pack or fix will be included in or with the expansion when it’s released. Nothing else, as far as updates, will come about until then because it wouldn’t make any sense.

Heart of Thorns is the focus for now. Everything else is moot. This iddy-bitty seasonal event didn’t tell everyone that already?

Yeah the division of the ls into tiny pieces spread over a long time indicated they have only the release of the expansion in mind now.