Guild Wars 2

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/coming-soon-the-edge-of-the-mists/

http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/01/28/journey-to-the-edge-of-the-mists-in-guild-wars-2s-next-content/

Exactly like I thought. Patch 1 2 and 3 will, despite being called “big patches”, still be regular LS patches maybe even smaller considering that they don’t add any features.

What a shame :/

kokiman.2364:

Exactly like I thought. Patch 1 2 and 3 will, despite being called “big patches”, still be regular LS patches maybe even smaller considering that they don’t add any features.

What a shame :/

They’re adding in a new WvW map; some would consider that to be a pretty nice feature.

kokiman.2364:

Exactly like I thought. Patch 1 2 and 3 will, despite being called “big patches”, still be regular LS patches maybe even smaller considering that they don’t add any features.

What a shame :/

How is adding a whole new map small?
A whole new map full with new features no less.

And what about the first patch that added two world bosses, both with completely new mechanics?

lordkrall.7241:

kokiman.2364:

Exactly like I thought. Patch 1 2 and 3 will, despite being called “big patches”, still be regular LS patches maybe even smaller considering that they don’t add any features.

What a shame :/

How is adding a whole new map small?
A whole new map full with new features no less.

And what about the first patch that added two world bosses, both with completely new mechanics?

Unless anet comes up with a dozen maps and a few classes in EVERY patch, some people will never be content.

I think the complaint is the content added might not be the content certain people want.

wvw crowd have been complaining about every patch.

I’m quite easy going. So any new content is fine with me.

Flytrap.8075:

kokiman.2364:

Exactly like I thought. Patch 1 2 and 3 will, despite being called “big patches”, still be regular LS patches maybe even smaller considering that they don’t add any features.

What a shame :/

They’re adding in a new WvW map; some would consider that to be a pretty nice feature.

For WvW players, aye. Those 2 patches are still not on the same scale as previous LS updates.

How on earth is adding EotM a “small” update? Some people…..shakes head

kokiman.2364:

Exactly like I thought. Patch 1 2 and 3 will, despite being called “big patches”, still be regular LS patches maybe even smaller considering that they don’t add any features.

What a shame :/

An entirely new map which is, from what ive seen, one of the best (if not the best) looking maps ever created in an MMO. Seeing how creating maps swallows up a big
of an MMO devs budget this doesnt seem to be a minor thing at all.

Sure wvw might not be your cup of tea. But its still a big feature that gets added to a gamemode thats really popular.

And again just another patch that fits only one specific playstyle. I really wish they would return to give us more mixed content for all playstyles like Queens Jubilee and Bazaar.

Well, at least they aren’t getting Trahearne in WvsW, just Scarlet. That would have been really bad.

Does that mean we are also getting account bound WvW ranks next week?

Guys I think it’s pretty obvious that this EOTM version will be for LS alone, and it will be temporary. The WvW EOTM version may be coming as well in this update.

Don’t expect WvW players to be fighting alongside PvE in this update.

Beldin.5498:

And again just another patch that fits only one specific playstyle. I really wish they would return to give us more mixed content for all playstyles like Queens Jubilee and Bazaar.

Ah, you mean those two patches that gave the grand total of 2 things (Skyhammer for first one, a new WXP line for the second) for sPvP and WvW players?

The vast majority of updates caters to the PvE player-base, but for some reason it is a kitten catastrophe if they decided to give an update catered to another part of the game.

Also keep in mind that Edge of the Mists is rather PvE heavy from what I have seen, and it will include rather major PvE things with the update (invading Aetherblades and such).

Beldin.5498:

And again just another patch that fits only one specific playstyle. I really wish they would return to give us more mixed content for all playstyles like Queens Jubilee and Bazaar.

What did those patches offer for wvw?

lordkrall.7241:

Beldin.5498:

And again just another patch that fits only one specific playstyle. I really wish they would return to give us more mixed content for all playstyles like Queens Jubilee and Bazaar.

Ah, you mean those two patches that gave the grand total of 2 things (Skyhammer for first one, a new WXP line for the second) for sPvP and WvW players?

The vast majority of updates caters to the PvE player-base, but for some reason it is a kitten catastrophe if they decided to give an update catered to another part of the game.

Also keep in mind that Edge of the Mists is rather PvE heavy from what I have seen, and it will include rather major PvE things with the update (invading Aetherblades and such).

What this game really needs is more temporary world bosses that I can mindlessly zerg down for a few green items.

Oh wait, if Scarlet is “permanent” added to the WvW maps. Does that mean she’ll never die? (sigh)

Locuz.2651:

Beldin.5498:

And again just another patch that fits only one specific playstyle. I really wish they would return to give us more mixed content for all playstyles like Queens Jubilee and Bazaar.

What did those patches offer for wvw?

I don’t know since i don’t really care about it. What i mean is not related to WvW but the direction that all the updates in the last half year always only had one focus instead of different content.

So instead of just a Raid-Boss or just a new Dungeon Path i would rather see that and also something to do in the Openworld .. and also something in WvW .. and maybe a new Minigame .. and Jumping Puzzle .. and whatever.

I just want some story instances…Hope it will be more than just new WvW map.

I see where the disappointment comes from. Edge of the Mists was announced monthes ago and everyone knew it would happen at one day.

But, just putting Scarlet and therefore PvE content randomly on the Wv3 map so it looks like an update to the LS? That’s bullkitten.

Kaiyanwan.8521:

I see where the disappointment comes from. Edge of the Mists was announced monthes ago and everyone knew it would happen at one day.

But, just putting Scarlet and therefore PvE content randomly on the Wv3 map so it looks like an update to the LS? That’s bullkitten.

So you’ve played this and know how involved it is? You think maybe Anet just took the Edge of the Mists map and painted a ship on it?

If they give content and that new content happens to be on a new map they’re also introducing that’s somehow bullkitten?

So they should just put that in an existing map, that would be less bull kitten?

I think maybe we should see what actually occurs before we start hurling invectives.

Wv3 players want Wv3 on their maps. I think that concept is easy enough to be understood.
Scarlet and LS sound horribly PvE to me, and PvE crowd does not necessarily mix well with Wv3 PvPers.

PvEers will feel ganked and PvPers will feel like the update is not focused on them, even though they waited forever for it to happen. Sounds about right to make everyone unhappy. Good…

Very excited for this update – the map is MASSIVE and gorgeous too!

Kaiyanwan.8521:

Wv3 players want Wv3 on their maps. I think that concept is easy enough to be understood.
Scarlet and LS sound horribly PvE to me, and PvE crowd does not necessarily mix well with Wv3 PvPers.

PvEers will feel ganked and PvPers will feel like the update is not focused on them, even though they waited forever for it to happen. Sounds about right to make everyone unhappy. Good…

Are you sure there’s not going to be an instanced PvE version of the map for the Scarlet stuff? Because I don’t know anything about it yet.

Vayne.8563:

I think maybe we should see what actually occurs before we start hurling invectives.

I think the uproar from the WvW community over plopping LS stuff into it has been pretty clear, but ArenaNet continues ahead with their fingers in their ears. EotM is a big update to WvW… some significant developer love, but the strange need to cram Scarlet into it is a big black fly in the ointment.

There’s really no need to wait and see, whatever her involvement, it makes anyone who has been complaining about LS in WvW feel like they are being ignored.

Gibson.4036:

Vayne.8563:

I think maybe we should see what actually occurs before we start hurling invectives.

I think the uproar from the WvW community over plopping LS stuff into it has been pretty clear, but ArenaNet continues ahead with their fingers in their ears. EotM is a big update to WvW… some significant developer love, but the strange need to cram Scarlet into it is a big black fly in the ointment.

There’s really no need to wait and see, whatever her involvement, it makes anyone who has been complaining about LS in WvW feel like they are being ignored.

You’re assuming it won’t be a PvE only map at first and then whatever Scarlet does won’t make it a PvP map. Shrugs.

As long as we get awesome story instances like in this current patch I’m good.

Vayne.8563:

You’re assuming it won’t be a PvE only map at first and then whatever Scarlet does won’t make it a PvP map. Shrugs.

Because creating something for WvW but restricting it to PvE for a while would be appreciated by WvWers. Got it.

If you do not like LS content in WvW, for whatever reasons, the best message to send Anet is to simply ignore the content!

It will be gone in 2 weeks anyway, and then the WvW’ers will have the new map all to themselves.

bri.2359:

If you do not like LS content in WvW, for whatever reasons, the best message to send Anet is to simply ignore the content!

It will be gone in 2 weeks anyway, and then the WvW’ers will have the new map all to themselves.

This is like:

“Here is your new toy, but the first two weeks, you brother will be allowed to play with it. After that it is all yours.”

Wow. What a great idea!

Wanting clarification regarding whether this is the WvW map or just a LS version.

Wow. And I thought the Thaumanova Reactor fractal was a slap in the face. We waited months for that fractal; some of use even based our vote on that fractal. One of the developers teased something to the effect of “I wonder what happens when Chaos Magic mixes with the Mists.” The possibilities stemming from that were endless. And instead we got Scarlet. Again. But this…this takes the cake. I’m not even into WvW and I find this insulting. I say again…wow.

darkace.8925:

Wow. And I thought the Thaumanova Reactor fractal was a slap in the face. We waited months for that fractal; some of use even based our vote on that fractal. One of the developers teased something to the effect of “I wonder what happens when Chaos Magic mixes with the Mists.” The possibilities stemming from that were endless. And instead we got Scarlet. Again. But this…this takes the cake. I’m not even into WvW and I find this insulting. I say again…wow.

I’m insulted that you find new content insulting

Vol.7601:

lordkrall.7241:

kokiman.2364:

Exactly like I thought. Patch 1 2 and 3 will, despite being called “big patches”, still be regular LS patches maybe even smaller considering that they don’t add any features.

What a shame :/

How is adding a whole new map small?
A whole new map full with new features no less.

And what about the first patch that added two world bosses, both with completely new mechanics?

Unless anet comes up with a dozen maps and a few classes in EVERY patch, some people will never be content.

Funny you should say “EVERY patch” when something that big hasn’t happened since the day the game premiered. rofl

SeNoZinD.9874:

Scarlet is now in wvw. *claps slowly

Scarlet has been in WvW for months.. where have you been? slow clap

Kaiyanwan.8521:

Wv3 players want Wv3 on their maps. I think that concept is easy enough to be understood.
Scarlet and LS sound horribly PvE to me, and PvE crowd does not necessarily mix well with Wv3 PvPers.

PvEers will feel ganked and PvPers will feel like the update is not focused on them, even though they waited forever for it to happen. Sounds about right to make everyone unhappy. Good…

Maybe the real problem is in the players themselves. Perhaps they shouldn’t pigeon hole themselves into one play style and just enjoy the game from every aspect. It’s a crazy thought… but it’s one I personally explore myself. It’s lead to thousands of hours of game play fun.

That map sure looks very good. Lots of annoying fall off spots but still awesome looking.

Wait, is WXP pooling coming with it? If so…

This looks amazing.

My biggest concern is that, if this is tied to servers, we are going to have the same issues regarding low population servers – and their ability to enjoy the game due to design decisions based around active populations on the top 3 servers – that we have had with the past few updates.

Why is there this constant bickering between wvw and pve players as to who gets what?

To me it’s a new map, with largescale pvp opportunities, with LS going on in the background, which might make for some unpredictable and fresh situations. I’m quite exited about the whole thing. What’s wrong with having LS elements in the map?

Any pure pve players entering should be prepared for pvp combat and stick with a group if that makes them feel safer. And for pure wvwers – we don’t know if there will be wvw objectives tied into this map, whether around the LS and npcs or not, but regardless there will be other players here to fight.

For the record I don’t like pve combat, don’t do dungeons (beyond arah story) and have never set foot in fractals.

Delvoire.8930:

Kaiyanwan.8521:

Wv3 players want Wv3 on their maps. I think that concept is easy enough to be understood.
Scarlet and LS sound horribly PvE to me, and PvE crowd does not necessarily mix well with Wv3 PvPers.

PvEers will feel ganked and PvPers will feel like the update is not focused on them, even though they waited forever for it to happen. Sounds about right to make everyone unhappy. Good…

Maybe the real problem is in the players themselves. Perhaps they shouldn’t pigeon hole themselves into one play style and just enjoy the game from every aspect. It’s a crazy thought… but it’s one I personally explore myself. It’s lead to thousands of hours of game play fun.

Crazy thought indeed!
Careful with such words… There are people who are quick to cry ‘Heresy!’ about such radical thoughts!

Kaiyanwan.8521:

This is like:

“Here is your new toy, but the first two weeks, you brother will be allowed to play with it. After that it is all yours.”

Wow. What a great idea!

IDK, I’m all for sharing, and it totally depends on how it’s implemented, but I envision a whole lot of PvE’ers getting their eyes opened to the carnage of PvP in WvW, if it is implemented in a open map like the EB not a instance there will be a lot of PvE players crying they can’t live long enough to do the content because the bad bad WvW’s keep attacking them, this is of course unless Anet gates the content into PvE mode for the duration of the LS update.

So basically EoTM looked like it was quite nice, so the LS juggernaut has grabbed it and thrown wvw players in the trash again?

Seriously, EoTM was supposed to be a much needed update to WVW, not some crappy addition to the LS storyline filled with loads of pve monsters…oh well, gave up believing anything ANet said a long time ago, so I shouldn’t be surprised really.

laokoko.7403:

Oh wait, if Scarlet is “permanent” added to the WvW maps. Does that mean she’ll never die? (sigh)

Outside time and space, this place it is.

Vol.7601:

darkace.8925:

Wow. And I thought the Thaumanova Reactor fractal was a slap in the face. We waited months for that fractal; some of use even based our vote on that fractal. One of the developers teased something to the effect of “I wonder what happens when Chaos Magic mixes with the Mists.” The possibilities stemming from that were endless. And instead we got Scarlet. Again. But this…this takes the cake. I’m not even into WvW and I find this insulting. I say again…wow.

I’m insulted that you find new content insulting

this is no new Content – its just the overflow maps for WvW and most people dont care for WvW

this map will be so full of stranger cause it has no mainmap and how i understand it is an overflow from blue vs green vs red from ALL servers at once

another LS i skip

It IS new content though, just because I don’t particularly like or play PvE, doesn’t make the LS updates any less new.

This WvW thing is a complete over-reaction. You’re getting a new map that will last the life of the game. You had no idea when that map would arrive, but I’m pretty sure most of you wouldn’t have though it would arrive on February 4th.

They’re introducing the map through a STORY vehicle, to tie it in with the current story lore.

Yes, I know you want them to just drop it and let you play but that’s not good for the game at all. Not even a little. Even some WvW’ers like the idea of a story, why something is the way it is.

If it’s an introduction to the zone from a story/lore point of view, then that’s all good.

And if after it’s done you can PvP till your hearts content….it just seems like a huge over-reaction to me.

This was obviously planned for a very long time.

It looks pretty…

Is this map like skyhammer where you can knockback/fear other players off cliffs to there certain doom?

Meglobob.8620:

It looks pretty…

Is this map like skyhammer where you can knockback/fear other players off cliffs to there certain doom?

yes and as a mesmer I am really happy!