But if it is account bound, doesn’t that mean that said casual player running around with a legendary have actually accomplished it on that character or his/her main, making him/her a none casual?
I’m pretty sure all the hardcore people left this game after about 2 months.
This game is the most casual game on the market, and yes that is including titles such as hello kitty online.
You log in, you swipe your credit card and you win the game, that’s all there is to GW2, and all there has ever been. If you want a game with progression, skill, challenge, and rewards then go to a sub game like wildstar.
I fail to see how this is a bad thing, it doesn’t take long to switch the gear and say you have a zerker thief but want a zerker ranger now, instead of making a new set of asc zerker armor just switch it over, but personally I don’t like account bound legendary weapons.
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While I see exactly where you’re coming from, I think there has to be a balance of how much freedom the player has to change their builds and stats, and how much freedom they shouldn’t have to do so, and require them to work for certain things. I feel like this would shift the freedom balance a little too much in favor of the player and being a detriment to the economy and crafting.
Game without any kind of limitation will be boring as hell.
With feature patch they introduced new type of progression:
Basic – Exotic = Soulbound
Ascended = Account bound
Legendary = Stat swapping & Account bound
Your proposal is to make stuff everything sandbox-typed for gold and this is really cheap and step backward
It’s not useless, i can bump up the AR of my alts if i want to see how they do in fractals without harming my group increasing their personal reward levels.
Obviously, there will still be some restrictions to this as the OP has mentioned but overall ascended gear being account bound is a net positive.
This is super limited use, and the inventory system doesnt really back it up well.
Its a super hassle to do it anyhow.
I think they should move forward to an unlock system for stats, or an armory for weapon/armor inventory and add trait/gear/skill swap systems.
hardcore is doing hardcore things. Maybe even getting hardcore rewards. Are you really satisfied as a hardcore player getting 7 berserker ascended medium sets? do you think thats a worthy hardcore goal?
At the end of the day, its taken me a while to make each ascended piece of armour and weapon I have and they’re all on my main. I can now give my alts some love at no extra expense.
Its also really good for people who have and play multiple Lv80’s of the same Class.
If the ascended trinkets also become account bound, then I may be encouraged to experiment more with builds while keeping top end stats and not waste them if the build turns out rubbish.
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I would love this change if they made It so you could change Ascended Amours stats when out of combat (like a legendary), then I would only need one set of armour.
I’m sorry, I feel like they are killing progression a bit with the ASCENDED account bound change. Legendary makes sense, but making ascended armor ac bound is something that I never EVER wanted… Too much kitten is account bound, skins are one thing, but come on, it really has to stop somewhere. Legendary armor or trinkets would make sense to be ac bound, but why make the HORDE of ascended rings, amulets, and trinkets that sit on my mule even less necessary?
People have asked for the legendary account change, but I havn’t heard anyone looking for ascended account changes as well..
Ascended gear is the ONLY horizontal progression we have on gear. This change won’t eliminate gear end game, but it makes it incredibly short-lived, and completely non-existent for my alts. Now I literally have NOTHING to do on any of my alts that are already 80. Other than personal story?
How does a post like this promote or encourage a productive conversation about anything in the game?
Unfortunately it doesn’t.
When players get very angry they need an outlet to vent, the forums are unfortunately were most such players come to do so. Lets hope OP is feeling better and can get on with his life now.
To be fair, WXP hasn’t been in the game for more than a year. Ascended armour only a handful of months. I guess they needed data and time to get other things done?
I’m sorry, I feel like they are killing progression a bit with the ASCENDED account bound change. Legendary makes sense, but making ascended armor ac bound is something that I never EVER wanted… Too much kitten is account bound, skins are one thing, but come on, it really has to stop somewhere. Legendary armor or trinkets would make sense to be ac bound, but why make the HORDE of ascended rings, amulets, and trinkets that sit on my mule even less necessary?
People have asked for the legendary account change, but I havn’t heard anyone looking for ascended account changes as well..
Ascended gear is the ONLY horizontal progression we have on gear. This change won’t eliminate gear end game, but it makes it incredibly short-lived, and completely non-existent for my alts. Now I literally have NOTHING to do on any of my alts that are already 80. Other than personal story?
Sory but not everyone see it your way. For many of us ascended gear is pain to create. Extremely grindy…too many farming. It was hard enought to make one set for one character. Now there is much less of this grind.
Actually adding in a way to salvage, exchange, or do anything with the DOZENS of duplicate ascended rings I have would be a better move. I feel like Sauron with all these rings, I don’t need to move them from my main, I have 3 others taking up space in my bank and my mule….
I’m sorry, I feel like they are killing progression a bit with the ASCENDED account bound change. Legendary makes sense, but making ascended armor ac bound is something that I never EVER wanted… Too much kitten is account bound, skins are one thing, but come on, it really has to stop somewhere. Legendary armor or trinkets would make sense to be ac bound, but why make the HORDE of ascended rings, amulets, and trinkets that sit on my mule even less necessary?
People have asked for the legendary account change, but I havn’t heard anyone looking for ascended account changes as well..
Ascended gear is the ONLY horizontal progression we have on gear. This change won’t eliminate gear end game, but it makes it incredibly short-lived, and completely non-existent for my alts. Now I literally have NOTHING to do on any of my alts that are already 80. Other than personal story?
Sory but not everyone see it your way. For many of us ascended gear is pain to create. Extremely grindy…too many farming. It was hard enought to make one sat for one character. Now there is much less of this grind.
I’m sure they don’t. but when you have that set…. you are done. It is not “much less grind” it is the same grind, then a full stop.
I’m sorry, I feel like they are killing progression a bit with the ASCENDED account bound change. Legendary makes sense, but making ascended armor ac bound is something that I never EVER wanted… Too much kitten is account bound, skins are one thing, but come on, it really has to stop somewhere. Legendary armor or trinkets would make sense to be ac bound, but why make the HORDE of ascended rings, amulets, and trinkets that sit on my mule even less necessary?
People have asked for the legendary account change, but I havn’t heard anyone looking for ascended account changes as well..
Ascended gear is the ONLY horizontal progression we have on gear. This change won’t eliminate gear end game, but it makes it incredibly short-lived, and completely non-existent for my alts. Now I literally have NOTHING to do on any of my alts that are already 80. Other than personal story?
Sory but not everyone see it your way. For many of us ascended gear is pain to create. Extremely grindy…too many farming. It was hard enought to make one sat for one character. Now there is much less of this grind.
I’m sure they don’t. but when you have that set…. you are done. It is not “much less grind” it is the same grind, then a full stop.
…. Except not everyone would pass along their armors and weapons. Some, like myself, will only be passing around amulets and accessories and maybe a backpiece. It’s too much of a pain to do all armors.
If I make 1 ascended armor set, I’ll likely make another. I have all sets of infinite tools. They’re account bound but I can’t be bothered to pass them.
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well the strength and weakness of anet’s process is that its iterative. They try different things and see what happens
Strengths, they will change things they think are wrong, more willing to experiment
Weaknesses, sometimes a lack of coherent vision, and sometimes changes cause mismatches with old/new systems and grandfathering
i think they need to speed up the iterative process in order to maximize its gains. If it takes a year to identify and solve problems an iterate, it kind of lessens some of the advantages, and compounds some of the disadvantages.
I’m sorry, I feel like they are killing progression a bit with the ASCENDED account bound change. Legendary makes sense, but making ascended armor ac bound is something that I never EVER wanted… Too much kitten is account bound, skins are one thing, but come on, it really has to stop somewhere. Legendary armor or trinkets would make sense to be ac bound, but why make the HORDE of ascended rings, amulets, and trinkets that sit on my mule even less necessary?
People have asked for the legendary account change, but I havn’t heard anyone looking for ascended account changes as well..
Ascended gear is the ONLY horizontal progression we have on gear. This change won’t eliminate gear end game, but it makes it incredibly short-lived, and completely non-existent for my alts. Now I literally have NOTHING to do on any of my alts that are already 80. Other than personal story?
Sory but not everyone see it your way. For many of us ascended gear is pain to create. Extremely grindy…too many farming. It was hard enought to make one sat for one character. Now there is much less of this grind.
I’m sure they don’t. but when you have that set…. you are done. It is not “much less grind” it is the same grind, then a full stop.
It is less grind. I just don’t have to grind more becouse of alts. I can just move gear from one character to another.
all this where suggestions we have given them for years thousands and thousands of time. And the worse part is how they narrate it on the patch info…
Yes, why didn’t ArenaNet just hit the button on their desks labeled, [DO EVERYTHING]. The fact that it took this long makes it seem like it took programmers, testers, and designers months to develop these new systems which we all know is definitely not the case. We have confirmed it through the power of the scientific method.
I mean, I typed this response 2 years ago:
Nokaru
anet plx fix ur game ty.
Look how easy that was… They should pay us for this feedback.
Soo u just told us that cultural armor will no longer be for the specific race.. .cuz all my ascended gear is transmuted and since its ascended should become acc bound… what am I missing?
What should they have done? Craft one ascended item and automatically gain the rest of them free?
It is the conundrum. Some players want everything, and they want it as quickly and effortlessly as possible, not really knowing that the effort is what gives those items any value really.
I’m sorry, I feel like they are killing progression a bit with the ASCENDED account bound change. Legendary makes sense, but making ascended armor ac bound is something that I never EVER wanted… Too much kitten is account bound, skins are one thing, but come on, it really has to stop somewhere. Legendary armor or trinkets would make sense to be ac bound, but why make the HORDE of ascended rings, amulets, and trinkets that sit on my mule even less necessary?
People have asked for the legendary account change, but I havn’t heard anyone looking for ascended account changes as well..
Ascended gear is the ONLY horizontal progression we have on gear. This change won’t eliminate gear end game, but it makes it incredibly short-lived, and completely non-existent for my alts. Now I literally have NOTHING to do on any of my alts that are already 80. Other than personal story?
Sory but not everyone see it your way. For many of us ascended gear is pain to create. Extremely grindy…too many farming. It was hard enought to make one sat for one character. Now there is much less of this grind.
I’m sure they don’t. but when you have that set…. you are done. It is not “much less grind” it is the same grind, then a full stop.
It is less grind. I just don’t have to grind more becouse of alts. I can just move gear from one character to another.
cool, so you can skip playing the game, and get back to afking in VK, sounds fun.
Wait they are making a changing and you are telling them it is not right cause you are assuming they will add item tiers?
I’m saying it’s not right because it doesn’t solve the problem for the current item tier.
And when ascended gear was introduced, ANet were very explicit that they will add new tiers if they feel it benefits the game, so it can only get worse from here.
Wha? I was wondering how long it would take for someone to try to make this change sound negative. Not really sure what ‘solution’ you are proposing.
It’s certainly an improvement, it’s just not a solution to many of the problems brought up in the CDI. And sometimes, an inadequate solution is worse than none, because it’ll lead people into thinking the problem is solved when it isn’t.
What solutions I was proposing is right in the CDI post I linked btw, if you’re interested. Here’s the link again: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/CDI-Character-Progression-Vertical/page/33#post3387182
Let the Mesmer play with its ascended and let the Necro continue on with the specific exotic gear with just the right stats.
Well, obviously I won’t be sharing my ascendeds if I can’t. It still means that I cannot take my necromancer or anyone else into highlevel fractals (or other highlevel content with gear checks) unless I do the ascended grind for every. single. character. Over and over again.
Having alts that cannot access all content isn’t alt-friendly. Having an insane ascended grind-wall that increases by a factor of 8 for people who love alts isn’t alt-friendly. These points have been brought up in the CDI, and this announcement changes none of that.
I’m not even saying that the cost of ascended gear is unreasonable (though many feel that even the first set is too grindy or expensive). It’s the factor of 8 that I object to.
Now they just need to add an ascended armor gear exchanger (for a fee of course): Turn in an ascended trinket, get a credit a trinket of your choice. This would help people with many copies of the same item. For example: If you have 10 copies of the same zerker amulet, turn it for an exchange for a different stat set.
I think this would help build experimentation. I certain would love to have a full ascended set of each type.
Q: Transmuted Ascended Equipment will become account bound too?
Will all my transmuted ascended equipment become account bound after the feature pack release. Currently almost all of mine (same stuff crafted multiple times ) is transmuted onto fractal and gem store skins. Will they look the same and become account bound?
Account bound Legendaries are welcome but I think Anet overshot it with making ascended equipment account bound too. They are not that hard to obtain especially since they drop as random loot too. Too much casual is not good IMO.
I love the account-bound ascended – it is very alt-friendly now so that I can share armor types between my lights-armor wearers, medium armor wearers, and heavy-armor wearers! It also lowers the cost of temporarily switching my main as I can just ship my armor over to the other guy!
How does this work with ascended armour transmutated with cultural skins?
Exactly my question. They didn’t answer anything about all the transmuted ascended equipment. Generally speaking game sees it as the transmuted item (like fractal ascended sword will be seen as fractal sword with pink stats) so I think they will remain soulbound.
Q: What if we deleted certain ascended trinkets recently that were bound to a deleted character? Is there any way that we can get these back? I assume the answer is “no,” and I’ve put in a ticket to confirm, but just wondering.
Wow, great news! I never dabbled in the ascended stuff because I could never make up my mind with what character I wanted to use them on. I guess it’s time for me to finally ditch my exotic equipment and get started on my ascended crafting and purchasing ascended trinkets from the laurel vendor.
How does this work with ascended armour transmutated with cultural skins?
Exactly my question. They didn’t answer anything about all the transmuted ascended equipment. Generally speaking game sees it as the transmuted item (like fractal ascended sword will be seen as fractal sword with pink stats) so I think they will remain soulbound.
If not soulbound, then most likely only the race that the cultural armor is assigned to would be the only characters (if you have more than one of the same race with the same armor type) able to wear them until transmuted again, from what I understand.
I’m pretty sure all the hardcore people left this game after about 2 months.
This game is the most casual game on the market, and yes that is including titles such as hello kitty online.
You log in, you swipe your credit card and you win the game, that’s all there is to GW2, and all there has ever been. If you want a game with progression, skill, challenge, and rewards then go to a sub game like wildstar.
Ummm. Log into Wildstar, swipe credit card to buy in game time, sell in game time to other people, profit. Unless it works differently to what I understood how it works.
And I’m quite certain you don’t get a lot of the most coveted skins from gold, because they can’t be traded.
On topic:
If we make ascended and legendaries account-bound instead of soulbound, wouldn’t it be better to just exclude them form the wardrobe?
There’s an entire 12 page argument in another thread with quite a few people on both sides of it, and theres a very serious exploit with Eternity to get Sunrise and Twlight at basically nothing. So to settle all that, wouldn’t this be the easiest method?
The Account Bound Ascended thing is a non-issue to me. It’s not like once I fully gear one of my characters in Ascended, and Transmute them all to not look like an Italian Pagliacci, I’m not going to be swapping those armor pieces over to another character.. I’ll still need to generate eight full sets of ascended to fully gear my characters.
No, if they’d announced some sort of system wherein if you produce one full set of Ascended Medium then you could produce additional sets at a discount, making it easier for me to gear up by various other characters, then that would be AWESOME, but this change really does not impact me at all in a positive manner.
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I’m sorry, I feel like they are killing progression a bit with the ASCENDED account bound change. Legendary makes sense, but making ascended armor ac bound is something that I never EVER wanted… Too much kitten is account bound, skins are one thing, but come on, it really has to stop somewhere. Legendary armor or trinkets would make sense to be ac bound, but why make the HORDE of ascended rings, amulets, and trinkets that sit on my mule even less necessary?
People have asked for the legendary account change, but I havn’t heard anyone looking for ascended account changes as well..
Ascended gear is the ONLY horizontal progression we have on gear. This change won’t eliminate gear end game, but it makes it incredibly short-lived, and completely non-existent for my alts. Now I literally have NOTHING to do on any of my alts that are already 80. Other than personal story?
Sory but not everyone see it your way. For many of us ascended gear is pain to create. Extremely grindy…too many farming. It was hard enought to make one sat for one character. Now there is much less of this grind.
I’m sure they don’t. but when you have that set…. you are done. It is not “much less grind” it is the same grind, then a full stop.
It is less grind. I just don’t have to grind more becouse of alts. I can just move gear from one character to another.
cool, so you can skip playing the game, and get back to afking in VK, sounds fun.
Wrong. I can finaly enjoy what they promised us. No carrot on this stick game. I can just play for fun as i want and how i want. No need to gear grind……finely.
If you hate account boud so much just continue to play your grind it is your game and it is up to you how you play it. I hate grinding gear so this will help me a lot.
) is transmuted onto fractal and gem store skins. Will they look the same and become account bound?