Guild Wars 2

here is my issue with humans males, almost all cultural armor is way better on females, even the heavy T3 armor looks too fat on males, but looks awesome on females

It’s not just the looks. I play females exclusively because I like to hear them all the time too. For Great Justice!!!

Eh, only the norn males look uglier than the females to me (both in terms of physical models and armor). Just fix their shoulders/necks, ANet… it’s not supposed to be triangular.

If you’re a male, obviously females will look better to you than some ugly rat goblins, plants or cat cows.

I hope your names were fairly unisex. I saw a guy that had sex-changed one of his characters and it had a very rugged male name. Looked weird that Kragnar the Baby Eater ( not the name btw) was wearing a ball gown and had pigtails.

He changed it back after a couple of days.

Nick.6972:

If you’re a male, obviously females will look better to you than some ugly rat goblins, plants or cat cows.

Not every man is heterosexual and not every woman is exclusively attracted to men, nor do they always base their characters on what they find attractive.

I have male human, I won’t convert him but I can only agree on the fact females look way better on every point. They have better hair choices, way better designed body while males’ look like total plastic.. -.-

Male character models are typically an afterthought is most MMOs.

Almost all my characters are female (and I’ve considered deleting my one male, though mostly because of racial overlap) for one reason or another. I’m not certain I would say females characters are better than male characters, but I would say that humans are very unappealing in this game. I’ve discussed with others at some length how rare it is to find a female human that doesn’t look like a doll, or a male human that… looks respectable (I’m not quite certain what seems off about human males). That’s not to say they don’t exist, I was beat by a human guardian in pvp a couple days ago that was noteworthy (for one, I wasn’t certain of the gender from just the character profile, and looked acceptable as either a male or female), but I don’t consider those common.

serapheles.5409:

I’m not quite certain what seems off about human males.

Because they all look like they belong in a boy band!

I never gave it a single thought, if males or females looked better.
I chose solely females, because I am a girl and I prefer my characters to be an extension of me, so I feel weird playing male characters.

That said I never thought they had better animation or armor. I genereally find those of my friends with male characters that they put a lot of work into look pretty good too.

I did consider making males too and would have did it not feel akward for me to play male characters. At least for sylvari, human and asura. Maybe also charr, though less sure… norn is the only one where I find most male options kinda ugly… but that is because I don’t like bulky characters.

I actually did the same thing a few days ago. Every single armor set I’ve came across (medium/heavy) just looks way more the part on females than the males.
There’s a few that look kitten on males. T3 norn heavy. Aether medium norn. But that’s 2 out of 120 sets…
Now my wife asks me why there’s only females on my character selection screen…

zenleto.6179:

serapheles.5409:

I’m not quite certain what seems off about human males.

Because they all look like they belong in a boy band!

This really, I don’t mind it myself but I think more face options would be nice. They’re effeminate which is great for a lot of people but if there was more masculine options and less.. Kaiwaii desu desu Anet-chan! I think people would be more inclined to play them. (I’m fine with either myself but yeah)

Yea, I have only rolled human females. :S I tried to roll a guy as a thief for the first time recently, but then his voice and looks were just no good and was deleted in 10 minutes. I really don’t like the face or hair styles either; it just looked wussy regardless.

idk about that, I am almost the complete opposite.

I cannot immerse myself as a female, and I use very real life names (Katy, Alex, Jake…) and people confuse me for a girl because my Elementalist is named Katy.

I had to do only 2 sex changes throughout my whole play time, and I turned my Ele into a female my Necro to a male.

Also, it was weird using Lich Form on a female so I made her male… (see pic)

zenleto.6179:

serapheles.5409:

I’m not quite certain what seems off about human males.

Because they all look like they belong in a boy band!

I’m not sure One Direction would have this guy.

In gw1 I had 1 male character and 6 female characters for pve and 1 character for pvp (which was most of the time rolled as a female anyway).

I’m a male and call me a stereotypical person but I find warrior to be a manly profession/class just my opinion. Not to mention I find that heavy armor is pretty bulky and what else other than A MAN (or male beast in the case of gw2) to wear that heavy plate armor.

Also I prefer to play dress up with light/medium armors on female characters because they seem to have the most difference in them then heavy/plate armors. In gw1 my warrior was male and has 2 different sets of armor. My mesmer (female) has 7 or 8 and my other characters have 2 sets. Needless to say I find playing dress up on females to be more fun.

The Pointless.3869:

zenleto.6179:

serapheles.5409:

I’m not quite certain what seems off about human males.

Because they all look like they belong in a boy band!

I’m not sure One Direction would have this guy.

He looks Norn. Maybe he’s part of a boast band.

zenleto.6179:

The Pointless.3869:

zenleto.6179:

serapheles.5409:

I’m not quite certain what seems off about human males.

Because they all look like they belong in a boy band!

I’m not sure One Direction would have this guy.

He looks Norn. Maybe he’s part of a boast band.

Fair point. Somehow, I missed the “human” part of that conversation. >.<

I prefer male characters.
As a female player, I feel empowered by being able to play a strong, capable fighter. Running around with my breasts flouncing around and my skin exposed does the exact opposite—makes me feel like I’m just a tool for some 14-year-old nerd’s pleasure fantasy.
It’s easier to make a male character look strong and capable— it’s not a constant struggle to find something that doesn’t flash my breasts or show the shape of my bum. So, for human-like characters at least, I tend to make males. It’s just a lot of frustration off my shoulders.

That said, I did manage to make a female human guardian who looks quite tough. I used the biggest female body, and found armor that adds a lot of bulk to her frame without drawing attention to her breasts or her bum.

This was a frustration I had with my Mesmer a few weeks ago: trying to find light armour that wasn’t just glorified lingerie and actually looked functional. There are so few female sets that don’t seem designed to flash as much skin or curves as the game’s age ratings allow. >_<

Weindrasi.3805:

I prefer male characters.
As a female player, I feel empowered by being able to play a strong, capable fighter. Running around with my breasts flouncing around and my skin exposed does the exact opposite—makes me feel like I’m just a tool for some 14-year-old nerd’s pleasure fantasy.
It’s easier to make a male character look strong and capable— it’s not a constant struggle to find something that doesn’t flash my breasts or show the shape of my bum. So, for human-like characters at least, I tend to make males. It’s just a lot of frustration off my shoulders.

That said, I did manage to make a female human guardian who looks quite tough. I used the biggest female body, and found armor that adds a lot of bulk to her frame without drawing attention to her breasts or her bum.

I don’t want my female characters to be like that either, so I’m very selective with my armor. I posted a current picture of my character, which I’m pretty happy with, in the mix-and-match thread. It’s not perfect (particularly the exposed midriff, though I’ll accept that much until I find something better), but I feel like it imparts a solid sense of an experienced mage, without being defined by a skirt or covered by a robe. I certainly had to look (and mix and match) more than if I played a male.

Im heterosexual, and my MMO characters are almost always females.
Females usually have the sexiest looking armor and tbh,
if i am going to spend long hours looking at a character’s behind,
it might as well be a female’s behind.

As a roleplayer, I make characters based on a blend of aesthetics and an image I want them to portray.

My Human Mesmer is descended from my Ascalonian Warrior (male) and Canthan Assassin (female) from GW1, but favours her Ascalonian heritage. I wanted to play an elegant, educated and inspiring noble, and I felt a female would do better in that role.

My Norn Ranger was made female mainly because I can’t stand the male Norn’s caveman grunts. “HURRRRRRR!!!” However, I do like the idea of a self-reliant tracker and hunter who enjoys proving the Sons of Svanir wrong at every turn (ironically, her own father was a Son of Svanir).

My Asura Elementalist was made male since both genders look almost identical, and I liked the male voice and lines a bit more.

My Charr Warrior was made male since I just wanted to make a big, burly, fearsome warrior. XD His battle cries also sound more scary than a female’s.

My Sylvari Necromancer was made female since I wanted to make her like a D&D Dryad (who likes playing with dead things) as much as possible. (I was later very glad for this decision as I decided I didn’t really like the male Sylvari voice.)

Zaxares.5419:

As a roleplayer, I make characters based on a blend of aesthetics and an image I want them to portray.

My Human Mesmer is descended from my Ascalonian Warrior (male) and Canthan Assassin (female) from GW1, but favours her Ascalonian heritage. I wanted to play an elegant, educated and inspiring noble, and I felt a female would do better in that role.

Haha this sounds like my Mesmer (who is my main)

He’s descended from a Canthan Assassin and Ascalon Mesmer. The grand parents moved to Kryta, and after a while, the Canthan “gene” started to wilt and the family became more and more Ascalonian. Then he was born, and he looks like an Ascalon version of my Assassin with the Mesmer powers his great great (great great….) grandmother had.

Hey, that’s the exact same reasoning I had! After the War in Kryta and the rise of the Ministry of Purity, my GW1 characters decided the time had come to leave Cantha. They settled down in Kryta (where Queen Salma reinstated my Ascalonian Warrior’s noble house in return for his support during the War), and founded a new noble house. Her Canthan great-grandmother was the only Canthan member in the ancestry though, so she favours her Ascalonian heritage as a result.

Haha that’s funny

My Mesmer is also a noble because his ancestors helped Salma. So many things a like, the only difference is the gender.
This is too good.

Great Mesmers influence each other’s thoughts?

Oh, and here i thought the opposite – that a lot of armor is definitely better designed for males, while females get plated thongs and bikinis.

That’s simply your opinion OP.

I can argue that male armors look better because they look like they can protect more, while a number of female armors is just there for the eye candy with unnecessary revealing parts.
That’s actually a common complaint.

Not everyone has to appreciate that or is a hetero male, and not everyone plays these characters cuz of same reasons.

I fall into the same. I pick my characters based mostly on an aesthetic plus immersion level.
My first character was a Norn. I went with ranger and within ten minutes deleted him due to the terrible looking “Human” armor on him (I wanted to play a Norn; not a large mutated human).
Back to the drawing board, I did some time looking for a good fit. After digging through nothing but “pretty boys”, I finally had to settle for a female human thief. I tied her backstory to my Assassin from GW1.

Post that, I’ve been unable to create anything but females as the males look so… ugh. I’ve also had issues getting immersed into the game when playing anything but human as the armor breaks that “feel” and I feel the character is misplaced badly. – Obviously a personal thing, but still.

serapheles.5409:

Snowmoon.1758:

Im heterosexual, and my MMO characters are almost always females.
Females usually have the sexiest looking armor and tbh,
if i am going to spend long hours looking at a character’s behind,
it might as well be a female’s behind.

I’ve heard this argument with some frequency, and part of me dies every time.

It shouldn’t. It’s perfectly natural. Males are genetically programmed to be attracted to healthy female characteristics (unhealthy females tended to die during childbirth in past ages, so genes to ignore how a female looks got selected out). Just like females are genetically programmed to be attracted to males who are capable of protecting (strength) and providing for (wealth) a family. Nothing sexist about it. Those are just the traits which yielded a greater chance of survival of the offspring.

OTOH, if they treat you as if you’re nothing more than your physical or financial characteristics, that’s sexist.

Solandri.9640:

serapheles.5409:

Snowmoon.1758:

Im heterosexual, and my MMO characters are almost always females.
Females usually have the sexiest looking armor and tbh,
if i am going to spend long hours looking at a character’s behind,
it might as well be a female’s behind.

I’ve heard this argument with some frequency, and part of me dies every time.

It shouldn’t. It’s perfectly natural. Males are genetically programmed to be attracted to healthy female characteristics (unhealthy females tended to die during childbirth in past ages, so genes to ignore how a female looks got selected out). Just like females are genetically programmed to be attracted to males who are capable of protecting (strength) and providing for (wealth) a family. Nothing sexist about it. Those are just the traits which yielded a greater chance of survival of the offspring.

OTOH, if they treat you as if you’re nothing more than your physical or financial characteristics, that’s sexist.

I don’t see it as sexist so much as shallow. It’s one thing to think of it as “and that’s nice”, compared to being the defining factor in the choice of a character’s gender.

all i’ve ever played is females in MMO’s, cause dey sexy and if i’m gonna look at someone’s butt all day it’s gonna be a Q T pie

The thing that gets me about the males is they all look like they have saggy moob syndrome or something. None of them are cut, and none of their chest muscles or arms are really that defined. I have to agree with the OP about that.

I have a female norn and a male norn, and when the wardrobe hit i decided to equip them both with almost the same armor pieces and see how they measured up. My female has 4 color channels on almost all her armor pieces while the male only has 3 the on SAME PIECES. I won’t even put the aetherblade pieces on the male because he doesn’t get to choose the color of the glow the way the female version does.

It certainly looks like females got more love in the armor design dept.

Astralporing.1957:

Oh, and here i thought the opposite – that a lot of armor is definitely better designed for males, while females get plated thongs and bikinis.

Actually, its pretty subjective. Keep in mind a lot of people judge armor by “cool” factor, not how functional it is. Like Flame legion was very popular, chaos hands in gw1. The most loved armor is generally not functional on males or females. I mean just look at the amount of popular armor with dangerous spikes.

I wouldnt mind more armor for males that was less realistic, and more about cool factor, but i know some people love their lobstered mail looks.

Zaxares.5419:

As a roleplayer, I make characters based on a blend of aesthetics and an image I want them to portray.

My Human Mesmer is descended from my Ascalonian Warrior (male) and Canthan Assassin (female) from GW1, but favours her Ascalonian heritage. I wanted to play an elegant, educated and inspiring noble, and I felt a female would do better in that role.

My Norn Ranger was made female mainly because I can’t stand the male Norn’s caveman grunts. “HURRRRRRR!!!” However, I do like the idea of a self-reliant tracker and hunter who enjoys proving the Sons of Svanir wrong at every turn (ironically, her own father was a Son of Svanir).

My Asura Elementalist was made male since both genders look almost identical, and I liked the male voice and lines a bit more.

My Charr Warrior was made male since I just wanted to make a big, burly, fearsome warrior. XD His battle cries also sound more scary than a female’s.

My Sylvari Necromancer was made female since I wanted to make her like a D&D Dryad (who likes playing with dead things) as much as possible. (I was later very glad for this decision as I decided I didn’t really like the male Sylvari voice.)

I tried to roleplay, but always end up with a character who has a dead(but not really dead) sister named Debra, who has no parents and who wanted to be part of a circus. How did you get out of that part?

I like to create hot female toons, and the hottest ones I’ve ever been able to create are in this game (except maybe for the avatar creator in Eve Online, of all things). Unlike, say, The Secret World, which took five trips to the plastic surgeon to get my character looking halfway decent (Funcom has a thing for huge hooked noses on female characters, for some reason).

Squeesidhe.4761:

I like to create hot female toons, and the hottest ones I’ve ever been able to create are in this game

You should check out the Black Desert character creation videos. Your mind will be blown.

serapheles.5409:

Snowmoon.1758:

Im heterosexual, and my MMO characters are almost always females.
Females usually have the sexiest looking armor and tbh,
if i am going to spend long hours looking at a character’s behind,
it might as well be a female’s behind.

I’ve heard this argument with some frequency, and part of me dies every time.

Me too, but probably not for the same reasons as you. I can just imagine…

Player dies in PvE
“Sorry, distracted by my character’s bum.”

Player dies in PvP
“Sorry, distracted by my character’s bum.”

Player says the game is ugly with no beautiful environments
“Sorry, distracted by my character’s bum.”

That’s what I imagine whenever I hear the argument. There are so many things to look at besides your character’s bum, at least when you’re actively playing the game. Standing around in a city, I can understand.

I have 3 female characters, Sylvari Thief, Human Necro and Asura Ranger and 2 males, Charr warrior and Norn Guardian. I too may be somewhat stereotypical in that I prefer the appeal of the heavies being male whereas the other professions I’m a bit more egalitarian. I haven’t gotten around to really playing an ele, a human female one I had was replaced by the necro and I’m still undecided about engineers as a class.

Solandri.9640:

serapheles.5409:

Snowmoon.1758:

Im heterosexual, and my MMO characters are almost always females.
Females usually have the sexiest looking armor and tbh,
if i am going to spend long hours looking at a character’s behind,
it might as well be a female’s behind.

I’ve heard this argument with some frequency, and part of me dies every time.

It shouldn’t. It’s perfectly natural. Males are genetically programmed to be attracted to healthy female characteristics (unhealthy females tended to die during childbirth in past ages, so genes to ignore how a female looks got selected out). Just like females are genetically programmed to be attracted to males who are capable of protecting (strength) and providing for (wealth) a family. Nothing sexist about it. Those are just the traits which yielded a greater chance of survival of the offspring.

OTOH, if they treat you as if you’re nothing more than your physical or financial characteristics, that’s sexist.

Oh my… You’ve never taken a genetics course have you….. with that said, the females in this game do look prettier than most compared to other games, so it’s appealing to a lot of ppl I think. Whenever I make a char, I usually go by a stereotype, or semi-RP role. Like with elementalists, I went with a human female, having played diablo 2 a lot, so it seemed like the natural thing to do.

Females have better models, Males have better armor design. Look at some of the gem store armors etc, look bad kitten on males and on females they look stupid and prissy. Some of my characters are prissy but I wish I could just have a standard robe for my females without having to roll human. Cannot stand the plastic looking human female faces.

Nick.6972:

If you’re a male, obviously females will look better to you than some ugly rat goblins, plants or cat cows.

“Rat goblins” I think I almost fell out of my chair laughing at that one!

Sunshine.4680:

Females have better models, Males have better armor design. Look at some of the gem store armors etc, look bad kitten on males and on females they look stupid and prissy. Some of my characters are prissy but I wish I could just have a standard robe for my females without having to roll human. Cannot stand the plastic looking human female faces.

Some of the problem is that you can’t make genuinely buff females, so the large and imposing armor pieces on a large males look puny on the puny female models, even when they’re identical models. After rolling a max-sized female norn since launch and making a male norn, i can’t go back to the female since she feels so ridiculously small and weak in comparision.

It’s obvious from the varied responses that “beauty is in the eye of the beholder” even in GW2. I am happy with how most of my characters look from my human female elementalist, Amber Everglow (who is hot in more ways than one) to my norn male guardian, Jan Elkjar. But 2 of my favorites are my norn female ranger, Aurora Wildborn (who is dressed for the cold Shiverpeaks and to blend in with most terrain) and my favorite human female mesmer, Katherine Swinford (don’t let her demure scholarly looks fool you).

male humans just need more old faces and male norn less scarred, that’s what makes the choice so problematic.
then again, one thing i find off-putting is the voice of the female human, it will always sound way to adult so making a young girl of 19 years old ruins it all.

I don’t get the complains.
There are both revealing and conservative sets in this game.
And what does plastic mean? Plastic face? This game engine is probably 10 years old.