Guild Wars 2

Not sure how legit this is but here you go: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-02-26-guild-wars-2-getting-a-first-person-camera

This is huge if true.

I see a lot of adjustment types listed, except the ability to fine tune how far the camera moves on the dolly each time you ‘click’ a mouse wheel roll.

Still, I agree with butch, would be nice if it turns out true.

From Euro Gamer
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-02-26-guild-wars-2-getting-a-first-person-camera?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialoomph

Short and sweet article. I guess this is a product of the new toys they have to play with for HoT. Specifically the skill that they showed that changed the camera view (drop the hammer). This will make some jumping puzzles much easier, and have a few other fun applications too!

i think in general jumping puzzles are harder in first person view since you cant exactly see where you stand…

but i definitly appreciate first-person view coming if it does
always nice for screenshots

Aye, seems like they jumped the gun a bit. I believe the embargo is still up.

Tentonhammer posted their article soon after though:
http://www.tentonhammer.com/news/guild-wars-2/guild-wars-2-getting-first-person-camera-view-march-10

Nice to see that they do keep listening to the playerbase, despite people shouting about them not doing it.

Orangensaft.7139:

i think in general jumping puzzles are harder in first person view since you cant exactly see where you stand…

but i definitly appreciate first-person view coming if it does
always nice for screenshots

In general I’d agree, however so many have very tight spaces that the camera can’t penetrate well and you can’t see your next jump very easily. In those cases switching to first person will be a godsend.

The FoV slider will also be rather great depending on how it is implemented (I’m optimistic).

http://www.tentonhammer.com/news/guild-wars-2/guild-wars-2-getting-first-person-camera-view-march-10 more info coming in seems legit

Finally, finally, FINALLY! People have been asking for this for almost 3 years now. Thank you Anet!

The Tentonhammer link died for some reason.

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

The Tentonhammer link died for some reason.

They probably figured out that breaking the embargo because another site broke the embargo is not a good idea ^^

http://www.bluesnews.com/s/159421/new-guild-wars-2-cameras-to-include-first-person

has it too.

lordkrall.7241:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

The Tentonhammer link died for some reason.

They probably figured out that breaking the embargo because another site broke the embargo is not a good idea ^^

I was lucky to read it before they deleted it. It’s more flesh out than EuroGamer article. Really nice feature coming up!

I’d rather they fix the classes Ranger Engi and Necro first like people have asked for for 2.5 years, cause that actually would be meaningful improvement instead of a purely cosmetical/gimmicky one.

Lytalm.5673:

lordkrall.7241:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

The Tentonhammer link died for some reason.

They probably figured out that breaking the embargo because another site broke the embargo is not a good idea ^^

I was lucky to read it before they deleted it. It’s more flesh out than EuroGamer article. Really nice feature coming up!

Same here, though my guild wasn’t so lucky when I tried to link it to them ^^

Shiki.7148:

I’d rather they fix the classes Ranger Engi and Necro first like people have asked for for 2.5 years, cause that actually would be meaningful improvement instead of a purely cosmetical/gimmicky one.

how are they broken? Our strongest DPS in the guild is an engi, rangers and necros are very strong in Spvp if you build them right. The fact that there’s a PVE meta, doesn’t mean that the classes are useless, rather that they offer less support than warrior banners/ guardian walls and that they’re harder to learn.

Shiki.7148:

I’d rather they fix the classes Ranger Engi and Necro first like people have asked for for 2.5 years, cause that actually would be meaningful improvement instead of a purely cosmetical/gimmicky one.

None of them need fixing. I play all 3 and do perfectly fine. Maybe it’s just you who needs some fixing.

This is great news. Especially the work on the snappiness of the camera. Playing in narrow places with a lot of snapping currently makes me dizzy and gives me a headache (all signs of motion sickness) and is generally not fun. How good are all these shooters with their rock-steady camera in comparison.
Looking forward for any improvement, how little it may be.

I wonder if this means we are getting a feature patch on March 10. They did talk about the Stability change coming sooner than we think after all, so it is quite possible that we will see that and these new changes to the camera in that patch.

Maybe we might even see the Personal Story fix (if that is ready).

well lets see what the blog and stream say could be some interesting stuff.

lordkrall.7241:

I wonder if this means we are getting a feature patch on March 10. They did talk about the Stability change coming sooner than we think after all, so it is quite possible that we will see that and these new changes to the camera in that patch.

Maybe we might even see the Personal Story fix (if that is ready).

This is my thought too. We got a feature patch around that time last year as well, no? Really stoked that these changes are finally making their way to the game!

Dulfy reported on this too. Well, if people want it. . . .

Feature patches are usually all about a bundle of changes in a single package, right? If this is part of a Feature Patch, I think Arenanet would have provided an official blog post on this site hyping it up. Otherwise, I see this as another small update patch

As for the change itself, I can see this as another opportunity for GW2 machinima makers to make something better as there have been very very few videos from that game. If not for machinima, at least it’s good for easy screenshots.

Malkavian.4516:

Feature patches are usually all about a bundle of changes in a single package, right? If this is part of a Feature Patch, I think Arenanet would have provided an official blog post on this site hyping it up. Otherwise, I see this as another small update patch

The Tentonhammer report at least seems to refer to a coming blog post on the official site.

Shiki.7148:

I’d rather they fix the classes Ranger Engi and Necro first like people have asked for for 2.5 years, cause that actually would be meaningful improvement instead of a purely cosmetical/gimmicky one.

Duck—the knights will be after your head.
and yes I agree as far as this. There are a variety of things that need to be addressed before implementing changes like this and expansions.

Dulfys: http://dulfy.net/2015/02/26/gw2-will-get-a-first-person-camera-on-march-10/
MassivelyOPs: http://massivelyop.net/2015/02/26/guild-wars-2-will-implement-first-person-pov-in-march/
PCGamers: http://www.pcgamer.com/guild-wars-2-getting-first-person-camera-fov-slider/
MMOGames(?): http://www.mmogames.com/gamenews/40889/first-person-view-finally-coming-guild-wars-2/

I could care less about this change, but I know others wanted it from the other threads. I just hope we get something else to go along with these changes on the 10th

So hyped about this. Really really excited. I have to think “finally” as everyone else, but it makes me very happy and positive to see that it isn’t simply a “first-person-view” patch, but it actually looks more like a complete overhaul.

• First person
• Vertical and horizontal adjustment
• Field of view
• Focus point option: feet vs head
• Collision Sensitivity “which will adjust how much ‘stuff’ (trees, rocks, walls..) needs to be between the character and the camera before the camera snaps in.” < that one is huge!

Really looking forward to this. A BIG thank you to ArenaNet!

Mirta.5029:

Shiki.7148:

I’d rather they fix the classes Ranger Engi and Necro first like people have asked for for 2.5 years, cause that actually would be meaningful improvement instead of a purely cosmetical/gimmicky one.

how are they broken? Our strongest DPS in the guild is an engi, rangers and necros are very strong in Spvp if you build them right. The fact that there’s a PVE meta, doesn’t mean that the classes are useless, rather that they offer less support than warrior banners/ guardian walls and that they’re harder to learn.

Taku.6352:

Shiki.7148:

I’d rather they fix the classes Ranger Engi and Necro first like people have asked for for 2.5 years, cause that actually would be meaningful improvement instead of a purely cosmetical/gimmicky one.

None of them need fixing. I play all 3 and do perfectly fine. Maybe it’s just you who needs some fixing.

Let’s just take Necro because i know about that classes problem the most: YES, it needs fixing. A LOT. The AI and pathing of pets is broken. The Delays the minions’ abilities have make them useless for the most part. Bone Minions’ Putrid explosion STILL is bugged so that the blast finisher has a 3 second delay after the minion actually exploded. A lot of traits are either useless the way they currently are, or not synergizing. AT ALL. PvE Conditions are broken invalidating over half of our possible builds. “Flesh of the Master” causes minions to bug out so they die when you get downed, which doesn’t happen to any other class or when the trait isn’t equipped. When we get transformed by a mesmer, our pets die. Ele pets , guardian spirit weapons etc. all stay, most likely because the Necro pets faultly link to the “if you change form to Lich/Plague, all pets get killed” mechanic.

As for PvP, we still start with 0 Life Force, so we basically start without a class mechanic unlike all other professions. But yes, in WvW Necros are good, I’m not denying that. And in sPvP, they are pretty decent too. But that doesn’t mean that a lot of our skills and traits aren’t bugged, vastly inferior so similar traits of other professions, or not worth taking under any circumstances. Similar issues have been brought to attention the past 2.5 years, and there has still been no attention to any of them, because apparently, a First Person Camera is something thats far more important. Where would you want to use that, anyway, except for maybe screenshots? In comparison, it limits the view of their surroundings, will most likely make ground targeted spells a nuisance to place correctly, and i doubt they made the effort to make new animations for everything , so this will be a visual gimmick for screenshotters and people that get thrills of doing jump-puzzles in “elite mode” at best.

But hey, I’d like to be surprised by a good and usable implementation of the cam. I’d just love some attention to pressing issues with the classes, too, especially before HoT hits… or maybe they think “well let’s just see the balance state of old vs new and then start to manage things”, but after the past 2.5 years, i really, REALLY doubt it.

Finaly … I had to make many compromises in my latest video, because of the missing first person view. Now things will become much easier (unfortunately a little bit to late). Thanks anyway!

I couldn’t care less about first person view as I always prefer 3rd person whenever applicable (I like to see my characters I worked hard making), but I’m glad other people will get some use out of it. I know its been a much-requested feature. Although, if you can still see your weapons Elder Scrolls style then I guess I might use it occasionally for closer inspection of my weapons.

The camera collision thing sounds amazing, though. It drives me up the wall when I get near a tiny rock and the camera has a seizure and gets sucked right up my characters’ butt. Hopefully its as good as it sounds on paper (or, well, computer screen).

Kind of confused about the supposed “change” to the camera making it change based on race, because it seems to me it already does that. On my Charr, for instance, I have to zoom the camera out 2 notches in order to see my full character, where on my Asura and Sylvari I only have to zoom out one notch. And in tight spaces my Asura’s camera has less “seizure moments” than my Charr would in the same spot. I guess maybe its just a position change?

all fun and games but it’s no good when all you get is a simple closer look, if done right have it like this so we can immerse our self allot more in the game:
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/49036/?

This will be a welcome improvement, and I’m very much looking forward to its implementation. Can’t wait to try Troll’s End on my tall norn and actually be able see where I’m going.

Shiki.7148:

The AI and pathing of pets is broken. The Delays the minions’ abilities have make them useless for the most part. Bone Minions’ Putrid explosion STILL is bugged so that the blast finisher has a 3 second delay after the minion actually exploded.

then your main gripe is pets? So how then Engineer hit that list?
I never found necros minions that problematic, similarly as I like to run a build with stupid amount of golems on my asura, however rangers pets have a memory of a gold fish.

Shiki.7148:

A lot of traits are either useless the way they currently are, or not synergizing. AT ALL.

give examples.

Shiki.7148:

PvE Conditions are broken invalidating over half of our possible builds.

I run a power/ condition necro and my main is a power/ condition ele. The only place where you would get trouble with that is world bosses, everywhere else, even if there’s two hybrids in a dungeon party, we get along fine.

Shiki.7148:

As for PvP, we still start with 0 Life Force, so we basically start without a class mechanic unlike all other professions.

With some proper building you can run 3 healthbars. Normal health (when you hit low on that, deathshroud) + health back up when out of death shroud. The necros I’ve seen in Spvp were very annoying on their healthpool.

Shiki.7148:

because apparently, a First Person Camera is something thats far more important.

machinimas bring a lot of publicity. Plus it was such a requested feature that majority even modded it in, only to get banned for it. It was such a requested feature that reporters would ask about it in pretty much every interview. Nobody ever went “when will you fix necros?”, even though the condition limiter has been brought to light multiple times too.

I’ll never, ever use this feature, due to how nauseated I get trying to play anything in first person view. But I guess hooray for those who actually wanted it!

FP camera does not matter to me, but all the other camera options (snap position, FoV) all sound great.

RoseofGilead.8907:

I’ll never, ever use this feature, due to how nauseated I get trying to play anything in first person view. But I guess hooray for those who actually wanted it!

I also won’t run around with it, I have to go to a far zoom when moving. But think of the landscape screenshots you can do!

oh, one other thing, would be nice if tps is improved, the more i play games like skyrim the more i like my character off the middle.
i know we don’t have the hands-on battle system in GW2 like target-less games have it but it’s a start…..

But how can I appreciate the art if I’m allowed to use first person?!

And what if I use it in wvw and then suck at wvw?

I think these are important issues that Anet need to address.

Swizzle.7982:

But how can I appreciate the art if I’m allowed to use first person?!

And what if I use it in wvw and then suck at wvw?

I think these are important issues that Anet need to address.

Nobody forces you to use first person view, obviously. Especially not all the time.

As for me, I hope they’ll have an option “reset to default settings” which should be what we have currently.

Electro.4173:

I couldn’t care less about first person view as I always prefer 3rd person whenever applicable (I like to see my characters I worked hard making), but I’m glad other people will get some use out of it. I know its been a much-requested feature. Although, if you can still see your weapons Elder Scrolls style then I guess I might use it occasionally for closer inspection of my weapons.

The camera collision thing sounds amazing, though. It drives me up the wall when I get near a tiny rock and the camera has a seizure and gets sucked right up my characters’ butt. Hopefully its as good as it sounds on paper (or, well, computer screen).

Kind of confused about the supposed “change” to the camera making it change based on race, because it seems to me it already does that. On my Charr, for instance, I have to zoom the camera out 2 notches in order to see my full character, where on my Asura and Sylvari I only have to zoom out one notch. And in tight spaces my Asura’s camera has less “seizure moments” than my Charr would in the same spot. I guess maybe its just a position change?

I also always prefer 3rd person, but with the present camera behavior, I’ve been forced to look through my norn’s back (not fully transparently) or head, and it’s similar with charr, sylvari, and humans. I’ve always wanted the ability to at least temporarily zoom in fully to see my surroundings. This is definitely a huge improvement, especially if the camera behaves better near walls than before. I might actually create additional characters of norn/human/charr/sylvari. As the camera is, I had vowed to only make asura because they were the least problematic.

I hope that now I will be able to complete Troll’s End without feeling like a giant drunk asura progeny inside an even drunken norn mosh pit.

Which makes me wish there was also more reasons to revisit puzzles once in a while.

So I thought for a second about playing pvp/wvw in first person… Only one question comes to mind.

Will first person camera come with a huge epilepsy warning splash screen?

Harrier.9380:

So I thought for a second about playing pvp/wvw in first person… Only one question comes to mind.

Will first person camera come with a huge epilepsy warning splash screen?

Please don’t.

Please God, Z-axis slider/control! That and FoV were the two biggest request I had right from launch.

Editing to add, I find myself many times trying to scroll back the camera to zoom out. I could not fathom using first person for combat. Seems like it would reduce my performance greatly.

I don’t actually like first person camera view in like, any game, however, I do realise it’s usefulness when it comes to accurate targetting, and in the case of GW2, it will be a big help when it comes to those awkward JPs or stacking in corners in Dungeons (where you usually can’t see a bloody thing and have to guess where to swing, also making it difficult to Dodge correctly), so this is good news.

Of course, I’ll be sticking to third person most of the time, so hopefully it will be easy to just switch it between third and first person on the fly just like the ES games.

I use the -useOldFoV switch to start the game to ensure it behaves as it did when it first came out, before the FoV change a few months in, which I didn’t care for. It’s not clear to me what the “default” is going to be on Mar 10th, and I don’t expect it will be covered tomorrow.

As such, I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions as to how I might go about taking some control screen shots that I could then use as a guide to restore my game to looking how it does today with the -useOldFoV switch.

I love how everything looks now and wouldn’t want to change a thing, and would rather not be struggling on March 10 trying to restore it. I’m just interested in the finer dolly tracking for zooming I and out.

Very, very cool!!! I probably won’t use it a whole lot, but I know others who will really dig this. Nice add, GW2!

Can’t belie this! Finally!!! This is really cool, because i was writing 5 times here on the forum in years now. Same thing i had suggested they are doing them now. I feel like Anet read my posts.

This will be new experience for me. Thanks Ane. Good job guys, i had doubts that you can do this.

http://www.pcgamer.com/guild-wars-2-getting-first-person-camera-fov-slider/

PS. Just to remind you, topic about FOV and camera in tech support forum was among most popular topics there.

Shiki.7148:

I’d rather they fix the classes Ranger Engi and Necro first like people have asked for for 2.5 years, cause that actually would be meaningful improvement instead of a purely cosmetical/gimmicky one.

Not so cosmetic for me. I’ll take not getting physically ill because of camera issues over having to work around class issues any day, tyvm.