After a year and a half almost we finally got a gw2 sytle Raid and i am really enjoying it. My one problem is the loot system. To get the ascended armor set for the wurm you need to defeat to wurm, which only 2 servers + TTS beat since the patch, and u need some amazing RNG. That is only for one piece. Imagine what its going to take to get a whole set. 100+ run maybe?
The way to make these Raids more enticing to do, is to completely change the way Ascended armor is dropped. What i propose is that every 3rd time u completely kill the wurm u get a ticket. After 3 tickets you can then go to the wurm vendor in bloodtide, after the event is completed, and exchange 3 tickets for 1 piece of the wurm set of ascended armor.
The wurm isnt a sure kill like teq, 2 servers and TTS only beat it once since the update and havent since from what i heard. So for someone to get a whole set atm is impossible. For ppl like me with horrible RNG luck, we want a way to get that full set of wurm armor, bc i know i will never get this set unless the way to acquire it is changed.
What do you guys think? Should arena net change the way the raid ascended loot is acquired or do you guys enjoy the RNG madness?
I like what they want to do with the next WvW seasons. You get tickets for participation and you can exchange them later on. I think something similar would be great here. Either you get tickets which can be exchanged for those special drops or you get lucky and get the drops right away.
Why every 3rd time a ticket. Why not just a ticket each time and require 9 tickets?
Anyway, I think it’s a bad idea. Wurm is a lot easier than teq, which will be obvious in few months when people start farming it all the time.
Also the reward is fine the way it is. Real reward is the feeling of accomplishment for actually beating it rather than some valuable skin that you think you deserve just because you guested on bg/deso or did it with specialised guild.
Why every 3rd time a ticket. Why not just a ticket each time and require 9 tickets?
Anyway, I think it’s a bad idea. Wurm is a lot easier than teq, which will be obvious in few months when people start farming it all the time.
Also the reward is fine the way it is. Real reward is the feeling of accomplishment for actually beating it rather than some valuable skin that you think you deserve just because you guested on bg/deso or did it with specialised guild.
That was just a example lmfao.
How is wurm alot eaiers than teq? its been 3 weeks almost 4 and its only been beat once by 3 difference groups. They cant take it down a 2nd time still. Teq was done the first few days then on farm mode the next week. When your playing a MMO rewards are a huge part. If i wanted to play a game just to feel good after beating something difficult i would play osu on intense. Like i said this is a MMO and in a MMO rewards are a huge part. How are rewards fine the way they are? I sit in bloodtide for 2 hours just to get in the event then another 30 mins on the event just to get a few greens and a couple rares? thats IF the event is completed. A huge if.
I don’t know if the system is already setup to do this or not, but what if they set it up to where there were 4-7 guaranteed ascended drops, that are randomly given to people who participated in the raid/event.
That would take some of the RNG out of it, and mimic classic mmo’s, as you know for sure that some people are going to get “epic” loots, it’s just a question of who gets lucky.
The ticket system seems cool, but they may want the items to be rarer than that.
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I honestly don’t know why Anet bothered to make a total of 3 ascended wurm armor pieces drop from the wurm (why not a full set, might I add?). It’s hard enough killing the wurm, let alone trying to get an ascended armor drop. It’s a complete joke.
I tried the wurm the first day, it was so overpowered I knew it wasn’t even worth my time. I mean, 10+ champions, countless veterans AND a gigantic wurm? Come on… even my overpowered guardian with power/toughness/vitality stats couldn’t last long, AND the server’s blob at the time couldn’t do it, and as it is now, like others have said, only 1 or 2 servers can take it down from time to time.
@Zaoda
I never played Wow but even I know that Raid(like)content is never bout the individual but bout the team. The first day it was obvious nobody would make it. The purpose is that you can’t hit your head enough times to it and win, but that you need to cooperate with your fellow (random) players.
It is possible to do it but it requires teamwork.
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@Zaoda
I never played Wow but even I know that Raid(like)content is never bout the individual but bout the team. The first day it was obvious nobody would make it. The purpose is that you can’t hit your head enough times to it and win, but that you need to cooperate with your fellow (random) players.
It is possible to do it but it requires teamwork.
And I understand the concept of team work, but the fact that there are only a total of five annelid rifle skins in the trading post after a few weeks of the wurm being available shows 1) how hard the wurm is, and 2) how few teams are actually willing to give it a go because of its shear difficulty. Has nothing to do with solo/group work, it has to do with how hard the wurm is to take down (let alone all the vets and champs pummelling you to the ground).
Anet’s really shooting themselves in the foot in terms of how difficult they’ve made it, and instead of giving people any real incentive of going after the wurm, most players have become deterred from it completely – myself included.
I don’t know if the system is already setup to do this or not, but what if they set it up to where there were 4-7 guaranteed ascended drops, that are randomly given to people who participated in the raid/event.
That would take some of the RNG out of it, and mimic classic mmo’s, as you know for sure that some people are going to get “epic” loots, it’s just a question of who gets lucky.
The ticket system seems cool, but they may want the items to be rarer than that.
That not a bad idea but the down side would be that, someone can run the event 100+ times and still not get anything like it is now. With classic MMO there is the roll system. To me the roll system isnt that bad of RNG bc, from my experience, when i dungeon/raid in other MMOs, if i dont hit my rolls for the first few bosses, im most likely going to get a roll of 95+ for the last. Its RNG but it sees that you havent got loot in a while and will give you better roll numbers. Gw2 doesnt work that way, its the same no matter how many times you get bad loot.
The wurm isnt a sure kill like teq, 2 servers and TTS only beat it once since the update and havent since from what i heard.
TxS has killed him 11 times total, I think 6 after the bug (we never encountered) was fixed. Don’t know about TTS.
But yeah, I definately agree that this needs to be changed. I want a full Tequatl set and I believe I am at around 50 kills now, and unless I loot Tequatl’s Hoard I have made no progress at all.
The wurm isnt a sure kill like teq, 2 servers and TTS only beat it once since the update and havent since from what i heard.
TxS has killed him 11 times total, I think 6 after the bug (we never encountered) was fixed. Don’t know about TTS.
But yeah, I definately agree that this needs to be changed. I want a full Tequatl set and I believe I am at around 50 kills now, and unless I loot Tequatl’s Hoard I have made no progress at all.
That is pretty impressive, I guess my info was off. But the event is still really hard and should reward accordingly for the effort and time spent. Props to TxS for there wurm farm mode kills :P
The wurm isnt a sure kill like teq, 2 servers and TTS only beat it once since the update and havent since from what i heard.
TxS has killed him 11 times total, I think 6 after the bug (we never encountered) was fixed. Don’t know about TTS.
But yeah, I definately agree that this needs to be changed. I want a full Tequatl set and I believe I am at around 50 kills now, and unless I loot Tequatl’s Hoard I have made no progress at all.
That is pretty impressive, I guess my info was off. But the event is still really hard and should reward accordingly for the effort and time spent. Props to TxS for there wurm farm mode kills :P
Trust me on one thing after 11 Wurm kills i feel trolled by Anet , they think that fun > >>>> reward .I will give em this , it’s ok the 1st-2nd-3rd kill after that, The amount of blues and greens u get evry time makes me remember why in this game all is vain.And when i look at marrio loot where u don’t need the same amount of ppl and cordination , i feel like crying for the amount of time i wasted on teq and wurm .
The wurm isnt a sure kill like teq, 2 servers and TTS only beat it once since the update and havent since from what i heard.
TxS has killed him 11 times total, I think 6 after the bug (we never encountered) was fixed. Don’t know about TTS.
But yeah, I definately agree that this needs to be changed. I want a full Tequatl set and I believe I am at around 50 kills now, and unless I loot Tequatl’s Hoard I have made no progress at all.
That is pretty impressive, I guess my info was off. But the event is still really hard and should reward accordingly for the effort and time spent. Props to TxS for there wurm farm mode kills :P
Trust me on one thing after 11 Wurm kills i feel trolled by Anet , they think that fun > >>>> reward .I will give em this , it’s ok the 1st-2nd-3rd kill after that, The amount of blues and greens u get evry time makes me remember why in this game all is vain.And when i look at marrio loot where u don’t need the same amount of ppl and cordination , i feel like crying for the amount of time i wasted on teq and wurm .
Its pretty crazy how mari has better loot than the wurm. Idk if Anet thinks that the wurm is so fun that ppl will do it infinite amount of times with bad loot or they think the loot is really good. Either way i dont mind the blues and greens, the thing that bothers me is how you acquire the ascended armor piece.
The wurm isnt a sure kill like teq, 2 servers and TTS only beat it once since the update and havent since from what i heard.
TxS has killed him 11 times total, I think 6 after the bug (we never encountered) was fixed. Don’t know about TTS.
But yeah, I definately agree that this needs to be changed. I want a full Tequatl set and I believe I am at around 50 kills now, and unless I loot Tequatl’s Hoard I have made no progress at all.
That is pretty impressive, I guess my info was off. But the event is still really hard and should reward accordingly for the effort and time spent. Props to TxS for there wurm farm mode kills :P
Trust me on one thing after 11 Wurm kills i feel trolled by Anet , they think that fun > >>>> reward .I will give em this , it’s ok the 1st-2nd-3rd kill after that, The amount of blues and greens u get evry time makes me remember why in this game all is vain.And when i look at marrio loot where u don’t need the same amount of ppl and cordination , i feel like crying for the amount of time i wasted on teq and wurm .
Its pretty crazy how mari has better loot than the wurm. Idk if Anet thinks that the wurm is so fun that ppl will do it infinite amount of times with bad loot or they think the loot is really good. Either way i dont mind the blues and greens, the thing that bothers me is how you acquire the ascended armor piece.
You don’t drop em easy as that xDD.Considering that i have killed teq 548 time’s and i have dropped only 2 tequatl Hoards….u can see where im going here… xD
Why every 3rd time a ticket. Why not just a ticket each time and require 9 tickets?
Anyway, I think it’s a bad idea. Wurm is a lot easier than teq, which will be obvious in few months when people start farming it all the time.
Also the reward is fine the way it is. Real reward is the feeling of accomplishment for actually beating it rather than some valuable skin that you think you deserve just because you guested on bg/deso or did it with specialised guild.
Tickets like raid tokens in other games is a good idea actually, though 10 would be rather fast compared to the current ascended crafting debacle.
As for “feeling of accomplishment” is this why you can’t form a single full pug group, especially when saying “no skipping” quite clear in both the lfg add and in party when they join? There’s always at least one.
And the guesting thing is a separate issue; it’s because they put something like this into the wrong setting, so not all servers will be able to kill it (causing mass guesting) and the people on their home servers are going to be shut out of the once or twice daily kill because of the masses of guests. While I like complicated mechanics and such, in the open world it’s a bit too much without also allowing it to scale way, way down…especially considering the current loot. I’m figuring 2 hours camping home server on average, a few rares, maybe an exotic if you’re real lucky and a shot at ascended gear if you win the RNG lottery jackpot. Which a group of 5 can accomplish in less time and more loot with fractals… While 5 is too few…. maybe 15-20 at each wurm head? and 30-40 total for the entire teq run would be the proper minimum scale to still keep it big, yet have it as something that is going to happen more than 1-2x daily on the more active servers
The wurm isnt a sure kill like teq, 2 servers and TTS only beat it once since the update and havent since from what i heard.
TxS has killed him 11 times total, I think 6 after the bug (we never encountered) was fixed. Don’t know about TTS.
But yeah, I definately agree that this needs to be changed. I want a full Tequatl set and I believe I am at around 50 kills now, and unless I loot Tequatl’s Hoard I have made no progress at all.
That is pretty impressive, I guess my info was off. But the event is still really hard and should reward accordingly for the effort and time spent. Props to TxS for there wurm farm mode kills :P
Trust me on one thing after 11 Wurm kills i feel trolled by Anet , they think that fun > >>>> reward .I will give em this , it’s ok the 1st-2nd-3rd kill after that, The amount of blues and greens u get evry time makes me remember why in this game all is vain.And when i look at marrio loot where u don’t need the same amount of ppl and cordination , i feel like crying for the amount of time i wasted on teq and wurm .
Its pretty crazy how mari has better loot than the wurm. Idk if Anet thinks that the wurm is so fun that ppl will do it infinite amount of times with bad loot or they think the loot is really good. Either way i dont mind the blues and greens, the thing that bothers me is how you acquire the ascended armor piece.
You don’t drop em easy as that xDD.Considering that i have killed teq 548 time’s and i have dropped only 2 tequatl Hoards….u can see where im going here… xD
Imagine getting a full set of wurm armor then lol. It would probably take 2 years killing the wurm once a day to get one or maybe 2 pieces of armor. Even if you get the armor you can still get the same piece twice instead of the piece you need.
