Guild Wars 2

Is that a joke ?

Thank you for this awesome event, ANet definitely needs to keep on like this. Several month of living story for… a fire, and 10 achievements points. Thank you so much <3

yeah it’s a joke

People seem to be over thinking this.

THE DUNGEON WAS THE FINALE, THIS IS JUST A SMALL EPILOGUE.

Sheesh, with the complainers.

Nachtz.4930:

Is that a joke ?

Thank you for this awesome event, ANet definitely needs to keep on like this. Several month of living story for… a fire, and 10 achievements points.

Yeah, because the experience of the story, the experience of the dungeon, the new crafting recipes, the new titles, the new weapon skins in the gem shop, and the fused gauntlets are all worthless. Right?

Was wondering how long it would take lol…

I keep thinking that something is going to come out of the bonfire and try to seek revenge! But nope – just a fire.

Major fail Anet.

darkace.8925:

Nachtz.4930:

Is that a joke ?

Thank you for this awesome event, ANet definitely needs to keep on like this. Several month of living story for… a fire, and 10 achievements points.

Yeah, because the experience of the story, the experience of the dungeon, the new crafting recipes, the new titles, the new weapon skins in the gem shop, and the fused gauntlets are all worthless. Right?

Some of us think so. Yes.

Null Unit.4375:

darkace.8925:

Nachtz.4930:

Is that a joke ?

Thank you for this awesome event, ANet definitely needs to keep on like this. Several month of living story for… a fire, and 10 achievements points.

Yeah, because the experience of the story, the experience of the dungeon, the new crafting recipes, the new titles, the new weapon skins in the gem shop, and the fused gauntlets are all worthless. Right?

Some of us think so. Yes.

SOME most of us think they where all worth it.

darkace.8925:

Nachtz.4930:

Is that a joke ?

Thank you for this awesome event, ANet definitely needs to keep on like this. Several month of living story for… a fire, and 10 achievements points.

Yeah, because the experience of the story, the experience of the dungeon, the new crafting recipes, the new titles, the new weapon skins in the gem shop, and the fused gauntlets are all worthless. Right?

Title… “Final Event”. The whole dungeon thing was really great, but this fire at the end is just a joke. Not even a video, a dialog, nothing.

ArenaNet did tell you beforehand that there was only going to be some dialogue, etc. at the final event. And you do receive an hour-long boon, as well. Not sure what you were expecting from the information they gave us.

‘The Flame and Frost epilogue will be active from Sunday, May 12 at 12:00pm Pacific until the release of the Secret of Southsun on Tuesday May 14. The epilogue will mostly consist of conversations and story elements; there are no exclusive rewards to be given at this time.’

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/a-guide-to-flame-frost-retribution/

edit: buff, not boon…lol I never get those terms right. =P

darkace.8925:

Nachtz.4930:

Is that a joke ?

Thank you for this awesome event, ANet definitely needs to keep on like this. Several month of living story for… a fire, and 10 achievements points.

Yeah, because the experience of the story, the experience of the dungeon, the new crafting recipes, the new titles, the new weapon skins in the gem shop, and the fused gauntlets are all worthless. Right?

You mean the crafting recipes for a stat set that is subpar on every level?

Are you referring to titles that are completely meaningless and add nothing to the game?

Weapon skins?! Where!? The only ones I saw required you to spend $100s on keys for BLCs or spend $$ in the gem store to get. There was a free set of gauntlets that are MASSIVE HEAVY ARMOR even on a light armor user. The skin is so ridiculous that they couldn’t even make light, medium and heavy versions?

The dungeon? Actually, this was the best part. The dungeon was a lot of fun and a few tweaks could fix the few exploits it had; however, it is also a perfect starter dungeon. This dungeon SHOULD be left in the game as a new starter dungeon already located in starter areas. As it stands there is no dungeon for new players to learn in and this would fit the bill nicely… To bad they have seen fit to remove it. Not an entirely genius decision by any means given their complete lack of decent dungeon content and even more-so an area where people can learn to play dungeons before getting into the one hit wonderfests all the others are.

So, yeah… This ending is a complete and utter joke. It shows a complete and total lack of development capability. This whole Living Story thing has been one of the most overhyped epic fail chains in the history of MMOs with developers making constant excuses for it saying ‘oh, it’s still coming… there will be more better stuff.. really!’

After this, somehow I do not think so.

Paulytnz.7619:

Was wondering how long it would take lol…

ikr?

These people won’t be happy until they get a free legendary for logging in.

Then they’ll complain they didn’t get two.

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

ArenaNet did tell you beforehand that there was only going to be some dialogue, etc. at the final event. And you do receive an hour-long boon, as well. Not sure what you were expecting from the information they gave us.

‘The Flame and Frost epilogue will be active from Sunday, May 12 at 12:00pm Pacific until the release of the Secret of Southsun on Tuesday May 14. The epilogue will mostly consist of conversations and story elements; there are no exclusive rewards to be given at this time.’

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/a-guide-to-flame-frost-retribution/

+1 for this. Obviously people don’t pay attention….

It’s a nice way to end – plenty of NPC’s around to talk to progress the story/lore (one of the big bits I love the most in this game). They stated no knew content after the dungeon, so it isn’t a surprise.

Above all else, a great deal of players getting into the spirit, by gathering together and even celebrating. Player driven fun, w/o the need to kill everything in sight.

Randulf.7614:

It’s a nice way to end – plenty of NPC’s around to talk to progress the story/lore (one of the big bits I love the most in this game). They stated no knew content after the dungeon, so it isn’t a surprise.

Above all else, a great deal of players getting into the spirit, by gathering together and even celebrating. Player driven fun, w/o the need to kill everything in sight.

For the life of me i cant find the refuges in sunsouth cove i am looking forwarded to see how this works out for them.

Randulf.7614:

It’s a nice way to end – plenty of NPC’s around to talk to progress the story/lore (one of the big bits I love the most in this game). They stated no knew content after the dungeon, so it isn’t a surprise.

Above all else, a great deal of players getting into the spirit, by gathering together and even celebrating. Player driven fun, w/o the need to kill everything in sight.

Ah ? On my server, the only thing I saw on the /map chat was disappointment…

Meanwhile on Sanctum of Rall…

Yeah it will vary server to server depending on the community or whether a group of ppl is on hand to get things going

The refugees won’t be in Southsun for another coupla days until they patch in that new content on the 14th.

One thing I’ve been wondering, though… I talked to the refugees in Lion’s Arch and managed to learn what they were planning to do with their lives now that the Molten Alliance has been driven back or whatever, but… where’s Malia?! I don’t know if I was just blind, but I was looking forward to hearing where she was going to next. Found Biron, Kirk, others… No cute cub.

I quote from the F&F forum from Paul Belz the dev

“The victory phase has begun and will continue until the southsun cove patch. Be sure to interact with a victory bonfire in hoelbrak, the black citadel or lions arch to complete “A Rallying Flame”.

As mentioned in the guide it is mostly conversations, though if you’re curious, you should check out Cragstead and the hatchery. Also the Bonfire gives you a pretty good buff."

Saoirse.1934:

The refugees won’t be in Southsun for another coupla days until they patch in that new content on the 14th.

One thing I’ve been wondering, though… I talked to the refugees in Lion’s Arch and managed to learn what they were planning to do with their lives now that the Molten Alliance has been driven back or whatever, but… where’s Malia?! I don’t know if I was just blind, but I was looking forward to hearing where she was going to next. Found Biron, Kirk, others… No cute cub.

Check the Hatchery.

There also appears to be a vendor in cragstead selling alcohol for karma.

Nachtz.4930:

Randulf.7614:

It’s a nice way to end – plenty of NPC’s around to talk to progress the story/lore (one of the big bits I love the most in this game). They stated no knew content after the dungeon, so it isn’t a surprise.

Above all else, a great deal of players getting into the spirit, by gathering together and even celebrating. Player driven fun, w/o the need to kill everything in sight.

Ah ? On my server, the only thing I saw on the /map chat was disappointment…

Sry that your server is full of depressing ppl?

Chessrook.8643:

Saoirse.1934:

The refugees won’t be in Southsun for another coupla days until they patch in that new content on the 14th.

One thing I’ve been wondering, though… I talked to the refugees in Lion’s Arch and managed to learn what they were planning to do with their lives now that the Molten Alliance has been driven back or whatever, but… where’s Malia?! I don’t know if I was just blind, but I was looking forward to hearing where she was going to next. Found Biron, Kirk, others… No cute cub.

Check the Hatchery.

:O Thanks for that!

i was thinking there would be some cutscene or something, just a spawning bonfire… i guess its the new “hangout” place until its over, a nice change from idling infront of the bank in lions arch !

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

ArenaNet did tell you beforehand that there was only going to be some dialogue, etc. at the final event. And you do receive an hour-long boon, as well. Not sure what you were expecting from the information they gave us.

‘The Flame and Frost epilogue will be active from Sunday, May 12 at 12:00pm Pacific until the release of the Secret of Southsun on Tuesday May 14. The epilogue will mostly consist of conversations and story elements; there are no exclusive rewards to be given at this time.’

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/a-guide-to-flame-frost-retribution/

The fire is going to be there until Tuesday?! I’m going to have that buff 24/7! This epilogue is better than I expected.

I was expecting a “I came for Flame & Frost and all I got was this lousy t-shirt!!” Town clothing item

Totally agree that this is the perfect “first dungeon.”

Congrats on successful completion of the F&F story arc, Team ArenaNET!

darkace.8925:

Nachtz.4930:

Is that a joke ?

Thank you for this awesome event, ANet definitely needs to keep on like this. Several month of living story for… a fire, and 10 achievements points.

Yeah, because the experience of the story, the experience of the dungeon, the new crafting recipes, the new titles, the new weapon skins in the gem shop, and the fused gauntlets are all worthless. Right?

Yes! We want precursors, obviously!

Lol you guys need to calm down obviously. It hasnt even been a day since the finale started. Im sure we’ll see more stuff. This forum is full of kids with short-attention spans who continually need to complain when they get scared.

darkace.8925:

Nachtz.4930:

Is that a joke ?

Thank you for this awesome event, ANet definitely needs to keep on like this. Several month of living story for… a fire, and 10 achievements points.

Yeah, because the experience of the story, the experience of the dungeon, the new crafting recipes, the new titles, the new weapon skins in the gem shop, and the fused gauntlets are all worthless. Right?

Pretty much, yeah. The story? Fixing signs and getting knocked willy nilly all over the landscape by the most ridiculous ‘spying’ devices ever conceived? Yeah, that was quite an experience. Norn refugees? Um, no. Based on what we know about the norn, it should have taken nothing less than an elder dragon to dislocate these guys. Certainly not dredge. Disbelief: unsuspended. Charr refugees? No to that, too. Charr like their meat seared. The two instances with Rox and Braham? Let’s fight wave after wave of bad guys. Yay. Haven’t ever done that before. Meh.

The dungeon? Did it once. It was okay, I guess. Better than the dungeon at the end of the personal story, which really isn’t saying much, but like that dungeon, the F&F dungeon was terribly out of place. A massively multiplayer roadblock to story (using the term loosely to illustrate the point) progress. Worse, it was only a temporary dungeon, so the folks who enjoy the GW2 dungeons and who would surely appreciate more dungeons to go along with the ones they’ve been running since launch got to experience something, all right, something no MMO developers should ever intentionally offer to the players: disappointment. Meh squared.

The new crafting recipes? What new crafting recipes? I didn’t get any new crafting recipes. Meh!

New titles? There are titles? Oh. I don’t use titles. Meh.

New weapon skins in the gem shop? Yeah, whatever, still nothing I want. Maybe the quiver, if it was 1/4 the price. Maybe. Maybe a quiver, and not necessarily Rox’s. You know what I’d like to have? I’d like to have that pirate outfit as a medium armor set. Alas! Say it with me: meh.

Fused gauntlets… yeah, don’t know what to do with them, they don’t really go with any of my 8 characters, either visually or stat-wise. Why do they all – light, medium, and heavy – look the same? Call it another meh.

So yeah. The only thing I got out of F&F that amounted to anything was the jetpack, as I was one of the few, the proud, the incredibly lucky, and I promptly sold it as it didn’t fit any of my 8 characters, either – I mean, seriously – a jetpack? And a jetpack in a game with no flying, a jetpack doesn’t do anything at all, a jetpack that’s just for show? Bahaha! Bring back CoH already, Jingle Jet for the win! Well. I said it didn’t do anything, it actually did do something: it financed a server transfer. So, yeah, thanks for that!

Otherwise, as far as I am concerned, F&F was a big waste of development time and effort for content that was not only temporary, but just plain bad. It’s left me wondering yet again, what’s happened to Anet? Is this really the best they can do? Look at GW: a year after the release of the original Guild Wars they released Factions, not an expansion but a whole new Guild Wars campaign that could be played as a stand-alone game! How did they manage that then, and why can’t they do that now?

Anyway. As I’ve stated previously: there is no excuse for temporary (non-seasonal) content in an MMO. None. The Living Story as it has been presented thus far may be the most mind-bogglingly inexplicable fail I have ever seen in any MMO-type game. Even worse than the so-called Guild Missions. Wait, I just remembered one that’s worse: SWTOR requiring non-subscribing players to pay to hide their character’s helmets. That’s the worst MMO fail ever.

Yes, yes. My opinion, every word, just that and nothing more. Despite the harshness of my critique, and this has surely been my most negative post ever, I still really like the game. I still want to play it. Most of it. Mostly the parts that were there when the game launched. I don’t think there’s been anything major added that’s felt like an improvement to me. Nothing’s coming to mind, anyway. There’s still a really good game here, it’s got a solid foundation, but sadly it’s being buried beneath layer after layer after layer of nasty smelly stuff. Like F&F. So, come on, Anet. Quit horsing around (just an expression, folks, not a request for mounts) with all this temporary ‘Living World’ content. It’s DOA. Show us some of that old creative fire. Save your reputations, and while you’re at it, save Guild Wars 2! You can do it!

I know you can. Right?

It’s funny to me, put a Holiday-themed label on temporary content, and it’s acceptable. Take that label off, and the content is more than unacceptable, it’s downright inane! What difference does a label make, or the time of year it’s available? Seems to be the same thing to me, just with a different wrapping. Also, before it’s brought up, the Devs have said that Living Story content may make a return, just as the Holiday content we have had so far may return. It just doesn’t make sense to me that a name should make so much difference.

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

ArenaNet did tell you beforehand that there was only going to be some dialogue, etc. at the final event. And you do receive an hour-long boon, as well. Not sure what you were expecting from the information they gave us.

‘The Flame and Frost epilogue will be active from Sunday, May 12 at 12:00pm Pacific until the release of the Secret of Southsun on Tuesday May 14. The epilogue will mostly consist of conversations and story elements; there are no exclusive rewards to be given at this time.’

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/a-guide-to-flame-frost-retribution/

edit: buff, not boon…lol I never get those terms right. =P

/thread

Didn’t like the first 2 months, but the last 2 were good.

I really want to see what happens in southsun cove now.