Guild Wars 2

So I decided to gamble a bit on the toilet. Prices were low on an exotic mini, and I figured had a good change of getting a higher priced exotic mini back. 23g to buy the minis to flush. (A lot of gold to me)

Anyway I run up to the toilet with my minis and guess what? Toilet won’t take them.

Whhhhhhhyyyyyyyyy?

Looked at the item in game and at the wiki, nothing to indicate these minis are flushable.

Now of course I’m having trouble reselling these to get my gold back.

The same reason you cant toilet exotic runes and sigils-everyone would do it to get divinities/bloodlust/etc expensive ones.

Windwalker.2047:

The same reason you cant toilet exotic runes and sigils-everyone would do it to get divinities/bloodlust/etc expensive ones.

I have no problem with them restricting certain mini, my problem is there is nothing telling me which cannot be forged.

The wiki clearly states that 4 minis of the same rarity can be forged for a mini of the same rarity or chance at one tier higher. What am I missing?

There are a lot of things in the game that are unpolished and not well explained. A great example is the fact half the skill tool tips don’t give useful information or the information is broken.

As far as the wiki goes its written by players for players. I am sure Anet supervises to a certain extent but at the end of the day the information on there should be taken with a grain of salt.

Spooky Mulder.1524:

I have no problem with them restricting certain mini, my problem is there is nothing telling me which cannot be forged.

This, 1000+!

Imagine my surprise when I tried using minis from Orrian boxes in the MF just to find out I can’t. And I spent over a million karma on that. So you can’t use account bound exotic minis in the MF but you can use other account bound exotic stuff.

This needs to be sorted out. Stuff that can’t be used in the MF needs to be clearly labeled.

It would ruin the value of exotic minis.

Malediktus.9250:

It would ruin the value of exotic minis.

Mini Tequatl the Sunless in a week after exotic minis are flushable: 3 silver xD

holodoc.5748:

Spooky Mulder.1524:

I have no problem with them restricting certain mini, my problem is there is nothing telling me which cannot be forged.

This, 1000+!

Imagine my surprise when I tried using minis from Orrian boxes in the MF just to find out I can’t. And I spent over a million karma on that. So you can’t use account bound exotic minis in the MF but you can use other account bound exotic stuff.

This needs to be sorted out. Stuff that can’t be used in the MF needs to be clearly labeled.

Not really the same issue. The Mini Risen Priest of Balthazar are clearly documented on the wiki.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mini_Risen_Priest_of_Balthazar

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

holodoc.5748:

Spooky Mulder.1524:

I have no problem with them restricting certain mini, my problem is there is nothing telling me which cannot be forged.

This, 1000+!

Imagine my surprise when I tried using minis from Orrian boxes in the MF just to find out I can’t. And I spent over a million karma on that. So you can’t use account bound exotic minis in the MF but you can use other account bound exotic stuff.

This needs to be sorted out. Stuff that can’t be used in the MF needs to be clearly labeled.

Not really the same issue. The Mini Risen Priest of Balthazar are clearly documented on the wiki.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mini_Risen_Priest_of_Balthazar

Now see, that is more like it. Unfortunately this note is not present on the risen hylek

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

holodoc.5748:

Spooky Mulder.1524:

I have no problem with them restricting certain mini, my problem is there is nothing telling me which cannot be forged.

This, 1000+!

Imagine my surprise when I tried using minis from Orrian boxes in the MF just to find out I can’t. And I spent over a million karma on that. So you can’t use account bound exotic minis in the MF but you can use other account bound exotic stuff.

This needs to be sorted out. Stuff that can’t be used in the MF needs to be clearly labeled.

Not really the same issue. The Mini Risen Priest of Balthazar are clearly documented on the wiki.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mini_Risen_Priest_of_Balthazar

It IS exactly the same issue because that info is not part of the game itself! Not to mention that the linked wiki page was updated only recently to include the “slight” detail about not being able to use the mini in MF. Even worse, where is the logic in being able to use not just account bound but also solulbound exotic armor/weapon pieces in MF but not the minis?

Such details must be clearly presented in the game. Remember all the problems with transmuting equipment which created binding issues with some folks (precursor binding on transmutation anyone?)? ANet changed ingame descriptions for transmutation stones to include this important info. The same change needs to be done for other stuff that behaves odd and different from the “usual” rules.

Spooky Mulder.1524:

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

holodoc.5748:

Spooky Mulder.1524:

I have no problem with them restricting certain mini, my problem is there is nothing telling me which cannot be forged.

This, 1000+!

Imagine my surprise when I tried using minis from Orrian boxes in the MF just to find out I can’t. And I spent over a million karma on that. So you can’t use account bound exotic minis in the MF but you can use other account bound exotic stuff.

This needs to be sorted out. Stuff that can’t be used in the MF needs to be clearly labeled.

Not really the same issue. The Mini Risen Priest of Balthazar are clearly documented on the wiki.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mini_Risen_Priest_of_Balthazar

Now see, that is more like it. Unfortunately this note is not present on the risen hylek

lol I did that yesterday too. Luckily I only bought four. On the bright side I then decided to go back to rare minis and I got a mini Undead Chicken.

holodoc.5748:

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

holodoc.5748:

Spooky Mulder.1524:

I have no problem with them restricting certain mini, my problem is there is nothing telling me which cannot be forged.

This, 1000+!

Imagine my surprise when I tried using minis from Orrian boxes in the MF just to find out I can’t. And I spent over a million karma on that. So you can’t use account bound exotic minis in the MF but you can use other account bound exotic stuff.

This needs to be sorted out. Stuff that can’t be used in the MF needs to be clearly labeled.

Not really the same issue. The Mini Risen Priest of Balthazar are clearly documented on the wiki.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mini_Risen_Priest_of_Balthazar

It IS exactly the same issue because that info is not part of the game itself! Not to mention that the linked wiki page was updated only recently to include the “slight” detail about not being able to use the mini in MF. Even worse, where is the logic in being able to use not just account bound but also solulbound exotic armor/weapon pieces in MF but not the minis?

Such details must be clearly presented in the game. Remember all the problems with transmuting equipment which created binding issues with some folks (precursor binding on transmutation anyone?)? ANet changed ingame descriptions for transmutation stones to include this important info. The same change needs to be done for other stuff that behaves odd and different from the “usual” rules.

Your right, it was updated with that information in January! the day after the entry was created. Don’t know how I could have missed that “recent” update.

There is no time for documentation and polish. we need more grindy craptastic scarlet content NOW!

To do my bit to prevent others from having this happen to them, I have added a note the the risen hyleks wiki page about it not working in the forge.

Still out the gold, and not pleased there is nothing in game to prevent this sort of issue.

There does not have to be documentation for the mystic forge. Half the magic is figuring out working recipes. (Guranted or RNG recipes doesnt matter)

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

holodoc.5748:

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

holodoc.5748:

Spooky Mulder.1524:

I have no problem with them restricting certain mini, my problem is there is nothing telling me which cannot be forged.

This, 1000+!

Imagine my surprise when I tried using minis from Orrian boxes in the MF just to find out I can’t. And I spent over a million karma on that. So you can’t use account bound exotic minis in the MF but you can use other account bound exotic stuff.

This needs to be sorted out. Stuff that can’t be used in the MF needs to be clearly labeled.

Not really the same issue. The Mini Risen Priest of Balthazar are clearly documented on the wiki.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mini_Risen_Priest_of_Balthazar

It IS exactly the same issue because that info is not part of the game itself! Not to mention that the linked wiki page was updated only recently to include the “slight” detail about not being able to use the mini in MF. Even worse, where is the logic in being able to use not just account bound but also solulbound exotic armor/weapon pieces in MF but not the minis?

Such details must be clearly presented in the game. Remember all the problems with transmuting equipment which created binding issues with some folks (precursor binding on transmutation anyone?)? ANet changed ingame descriptions for transmutation stones to include this important info. The same change needs to be done for other stuff that behaves odd and different from the “usual” rules.

Your right, it was updated with that information in January! the day after the entry was created. Don’t know how I could have missed that “recent” update.

Even if I am wrong about the Mini Risen wiki entry it doesn’t change the fact that the game itself should not rely on external resources for such important information, especially if there is a rule consistency problem like in this case. Community driven resources can be unreliable. The fact that some of the minis can be bough on TP yet they can’t be used in MF makes it even worse! Mini Reef Rider comes to my mind – I spent around 10g on them just to realize they can’t be used in MF.

Windwalker.2047:

The same reason you cant toilet exotic runes and sigils-everyone would do it to get divinities/bloodlust/etc expensive ones.

I’m not really seeing the downside to cheap sigils and runes…