Fractal Rewards as of 19th of April

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Posted by: Fenris.4897

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With the advent of the new fractal daily achievement system the old daily chests of the adept/veteran/champion seem to be gone.

This somehow feels to me like the rewards have been nerfed. So far I have seen no complaints about it whatsoever, which leads me to believe that i am somehow missing the bigger picture or the chests being handed out now are better than i give them credit for. What about ascended equipment and the level tomes?

Can someone enlighten me?

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Posted by: skullmount.1758

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You can still get them out of the other daily fracal achievement chests. I think you can still get ascended out of it. Doing almost all of them (I think only tier 4 mai was left?) after reset yesterday, I think I got 2-3 ToK, 1 Deldrimor Ingot, 1 20s junk item (can’t remember name), 2 pages, a chest of black lion goods, +1 agonies, and a couple other things (can’t remember what they were now…).

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Posted by: Thaddeus.4891

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Jesus people, can’t we wait at least a couple of days so we actually know the droprate before we start to complain about it?? You didn’t searched much if you didn’t found the 2-3 post about it already.

In the AMA that you can see on dulfy Anet say this : ‘’Ascended drops were actually increased significantly in the 26-50 range, and while they’re slightly lower in the 51-75 range, the addition of the 76-100 tier means the overall chance of getting Ascended from your dailies is a lot better!’’

Now we gonna have to wait a couple of days or weeks before we start to see a picture, then we gonna have 2 thousands post complain about RNG and people responding that RNG is RNG. Then people will complain that they did 10 daily and no ascended. Then a bunch of people will tell them that they did 10 daily and got 200 ascended drops. Then we gonna link to KINGS spreasheet with actual numbers. Then we people will tell that these don’t have high enough sample size to be representative, but somehow anecdotal evidence of people complaining on the forum have a bigger weight. Then we gonna end up saying that if we want a good sample size we gonna need to wait like 6 months and by that time, fractal drop would have probably change again so this all trip gonna start again.

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Posted by: skullmount.1758

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In the AMA that you can see on dulfy Anet say this : ‘’Ascended drops were actually increased significantly in the 26-50 range, and while they’re slightly lower in the 51-75 range, the addition of the 76-100 tier means the overall chance of getting Ascended from your dailies is a lot better!’’

To be fair, how many other times have they said they’ve increased (significantly) the ascended drop rates? And for some of us, they still drop just as frequently as they did before they say it (i.o.w. not that often).

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Posted by: sidecarpilot.3468

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They just turned fractals into annoying content forcing players to run specific stages… that’s what this update did.
Before the update you could rush a full daily run 77-67-56-40-32-x-x-10-2 in less then a hour and get some decent daily rewards out of it. Now, you need to run at least 3 fractals in Tier3 to get about the same rewards while being much, much longer/harder/annyoing content.

So, gj Anet, you’ve been failing since HoT, and you keep on doing so…
Been playing this game for well over 3 years and it has been nothing but dissapointment for the last year…

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Posted by: KickzNGigglez.4958

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Got 2 two ascended boxes in the two days the patch was available. Do we take average and say ascended chest is 100% drop rate? No that’s dumb because it’s a small sample size. You shouldn’t be upset because you haven’t looted ascended gear in 2 days…

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Posted by: Jahroots.6791

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The fractal changes feel like one step forward, two steps back. I like that the high level fractal daily chests seem to have guaranteed drops. So far I’ve seen new ascended accessories, crafting mats and fractal potions in addition to the old rewards. So at very least, you can look forward to something at the end of it all.

Don’t like having such a small pool of dailies to choose from though. It would suck to have to slog through a fractal you absolutely hate, and get a… potion or something (especially today, with Mai Trin in the mix). Ideally, they’d have been set up a bit more like the PvP dailies. ‘Cliffside or underground Facility’ and so on, as your effort : reward ratio is entirely RNG. That, or have the chests of the mists give us a choice of one thing + one out of several others (as the new HoT meta event end chests do). Cut down on some of that RNG.

I’ve done 5 stage 4 fractal dailies so far and gotten mostly rubbish. Not a big deal, as I;‘m having fun…but I’m still quite curious to see the inevitable post attempting to work out drop rates based on user reported data. Those are always a hoot.

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Posted by: DoctorDing.5890

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Not sure about drop rate changes but it now takes a bit longer to match the dailies with lfg listings but I’ll probably get better at remembering which number matches which fractal.

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Posted by: TexZero.7910

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12 Boxes, the only thing that came out was a +6 infusion.

Small sample size yes…but just goes to the point that nothing is guaranteed.

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Posted by: TheGrimm.5624

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With the advent of the new fractal daily achievement system the old daily chests of the adept/veteran/champion seem to be gone.

This somehow feels to me like the rewards have been nerfed. So far I have seen no complaints about it whatsoever, which leads me to believe that i am somehow missing the bigger picture or the chests being handed out now are better than i give them credit for.

The new system might end up being better. The rewards stack based on difficulty. So for example the daily yesterday was Cliffside. You had a Tier1 reward, Tier2, 3 and 4. If you ran the T4 Cliffside then you received the kitten,T3 & T4 reward chests from just the one run. We ran the T3 since people needed that level and therefore after 1 run each of us got 3 chests.

What about ascended equipment and the level tomes?
Can someone enlighten me?

We ran just one last night as a test and since people had limited time. That said of the 5 people getting chests (3 each because of the new rewards), one contained an ascended armor box and another got an ascended weapons box. Small sample size but…

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Posted by: MadRabbit.3179

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They just turned fractals into annoying content forcing players to run specific stages… that’s what this update did.
Before the update you could rush a full daily run 77-67-56-40-32-x-x-10-2 in less then a hour and get some decent daily rewards out of it. Now, you need to run at least 3 fractals in Tier3 to get about the same rewards while being much, much longer/harder/annyoing content.

So, gj Anet, you’ve been failing since HoT, and you keep on doing so…
Been playing this game for well over 3 years and it has been nothing but dissapointment for the last year…

Yeah…because what we all really want out of a video game we are playing for fun is to be as efficient as possible and to do swamp over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

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Posted by: Azoqu.8917

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I am glad that the swamp meta is gone. kittening hated it. Yesterday I also ran all of the dailies for both days (before and after reset) and I must say, I love getting Elonian leather and not having to run 9 fractals and only running 3. The only fear I have is having to solo level 100 Mai because of all the bads that want to get all the dailies done in the future. With a good group it took me all of 15 minutes and with a decent group it ended up taking 30 minutes. I really don’t know why people fear it that much.

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Posted by: NTDK.4897

NTDK.4897

Doing 3 Tier-3 daily scales, you get all 9 daily boxes (from tier-1 and-2 too), plus all the ecrypted boxes.

From the 3 tier-3 boxes, I got 1 Deldrimore Steel, 1 Damask and 1 Ascended Weapon chest.

I like this new rewards.

Also, Cliffside was significantly easier and faster.

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Posted by: PopeUrban.2578

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They just turned fractals into annoying content forcing players to run specific stages… that’s what this update did.
Before the update you could rush a full daily run 77-67-56-40-32-x-x-10-2 in less then a hour and get some decent daily rewards out of it. Now, you need to run at least 3 fractals in Tier3 to get about the same rewards while being much, much longer/harder/annyoing content.

So, gj Anet, you’ve been failing since HoT, and you keep on doing so…
Been playing this game for well over 3 years and it has been nothing but dissapointment for the last year…

The old system was failure. It incentivized, through its design, ignoring most of the content. It incentivized REPEATING the same content multiple times a day, every. single. day.

It made actually achieving higher fractal difficulties and attempting them a chore by still requiring you to run all the low tiers for their individual achievements.

The nes system is better by a mile. if you want to do a full daily run, you will only ever have to do 5 islands, total. Those islands will all rotate every day, which means if you actually want to, you know, play fractals efficiently, you have to actually not suck at all the fractals, because you’ll have to be prepared to run them all at t4 for the best time/reward. As in Risk actually equals reward

Contrast this with swamps of the mists, where you did two braindead fractals, maybe three, and only two rotated. then you repeated them two or three times each. There was literally no incentive to do higher tier content oustide of the swamp daily. You were stuck doing low tier content in your expensive high AR gear because that was the bulk of the rewards. It rewarded repetition rather than mastry of the content, or efficiency at that specific type of content.

At maximum you’re doing 5 islands daily now, doing them at higher levels is both more profitable AND more efficient. You’re not stuck doing literally the same thing every single day.

The game now rewards you for doing what the fractal system is designed around: getting better AR, doing higher tiers, and learning the mechanics of every fractal to efficiently complete it.

There’s nothing STOPPING you from grinding swamp, but the most boring way to play the game should never be the most rewarding. If you don’t like fractals, don’t complain that they actually reward people who actually play fractals rather than grind them as quickly as possible because they hate them now.

It’s the same deal they made with the new dungeon system. These systems reward a range of content now so that those the like 5 man instances actually have a wide range of content to do and get decent rewards from. If you want to grind the same thing over and over, head to the open world. They made it easier to grind because it’s the part of the game actually built and intended for grinding.

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Posted by: Esquilax.3491

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They wanted to nerf 2/10/x because it was mostly fast and easy. Now we gotta slog through the longer ones multiple times.

^ from a novice fractal player perspective.

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Posted by: MadRabbit.3179

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They wanted to nerf 2/10/x because it was mostly fast and easy. Now we gotta slog through the longer ones multiple times.

^ from a novice fractal player perspective.

But you don’t. That’s the thing. If you do a Tier 3 fractal, you get Tier 1, Tier 2, Tier 3 rewards all at once.

So let’s say hypothetically you have a level 50 personal reward, then you get 2 suggested fractal dailies and 3 Tier 2 fractal dailies. You do 5 fractals in total and you get the Tier 1 rewards in addition to that.

In the old system, you would have had to do 6 fractals total to complete the dailies.

So in the new system, you do less fractals and get more rewards. It speeds up the legendary backpack collection, because of how many more pristine relics you can get in a day in the new system once you start to doing Tier 3 dailies.

The only downside is you can’t game the system to just do swamp over and over again….which is not a downside in everyone’s eyes.

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Posted by: PopeUrban.2578

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They wanted to nerf 2/10/x because it was mostly fast and easy. Now we gotta slog through the longer ones multiple times.

^ from a novice fractal player perspective.

No you don’t.

You can get all 4 tiers of a named daily by doing the highest tier one time. Do 3 fractals, you just completed 12 dailies.

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Posted by: paulv.5361

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I fund the new system confusing at first, but happy with drops. On my tier1 run after oing all three got a Weapons box. Haven’t had that a level1 before , normally only at Vet or Champ. Balls of Energy here I come.

Wish the LFG group was renamed to match tiers ( call it tier1 x to xx) instead of old naming . Not sure about normal fractal daily’s vs daily tiers. Confusing.
Love the new Cliff side. Was lost at first, but much better. Not sure about new pathways. Still good Job so far.

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Posted by: Shylock.4653

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Jesus people, can’t we wait at least a couple of days so we actually know the droprate before we start to complain about it??

This