Please stop this.
You should be promoting open world participation with things like the former 100 event per month. This fractal achievement is just silly and draining people into 1 dungeon. Yes it’s your best dungeon, but its not your only one.
List of achievements that I think would be better suited for monthly.
1. 100 events
2. Hunt down 50 monster types.
3. Transfer (Buying and Selling) 20 gold through the trading post.
4. Create a new character to level 60.
5. Craft X amount of something lv400
6. Participate in 4 different story dungeons.
7. Participate in 10 different explorable dungeon modes.
8. Place 30 siege blueprints down.
9. Salvage 500 items
10. Something to do with monthly event.
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its the wvw that pisses me off… i don’t want to spend time in a pvp where you cannot have more than 20fps during zergs. Optimize your game before making me play a slide show!
Best dungeon is one of the worst thing in game design.
You have an ENTIRE month to complete TWO fractal levels.
Are you serious? You can get a fractal group within minutes on ANY sever if you’re willing to put the effort into it.
Matter in fact, if you simply used your resources to actually finish fractals instead of complaining on the forums, you’d be finished making the group and possibly halfway through the achievement.
I finished the fractal achievement without even trying tonight, running through my guild.
Having monthly achievements like that would make me rage, considering you get absolutely nothing but 15 coins and some jugs. Not worth grinding that much for it.
its the wvw that pisses me off… i don’t want to spend time in a pvp where you cannot have more than 20fps during zergs. Optimize your game before making me play a slide show!
they both make me angry because i didnt buy this game to run dungeons OR be forced into pvp!
its the wvw that pisses me off… i don’t want to spend time in a pvp where you cannot have more than 20fps during zergs. Optimize your game before making me play a slide show!
they both make me angry because i didnt buy this game to run dungeons OR be forced into pvp!
Because a Monthly Achievement is totally required.
I swear, people are willing to complain about ANYTHING.
its the wvw that pisses me off… i don’t want to spend time in a pvp where you cannot have more than 20fps during zergs. Optimize your game before making me play a slide show!
they both make me angry because i didnt buy this game to run dungeons OR be forced into pvp!
except you’re not “forced” to do anything, its an optional monthly achievement that you strive to achieve, Im not seeing the problem here.
Did I get my point across with the bold lettering and such?
its the wvw that pisses me off… i don’t want to spend time in a pvp where you cannot have more than 20fps during zergs. Optimize your game before making me play a slide show!
they both make me angry because i didnt buy this game to run dungeons OR be forced into pvp!
Because a Monthly Achievement is totally required.
I swear, people are willing to complain about ANYTHING.
Exactly, just don’t do it then, and honestly they not that bad anyway, especially fractal which can simply take only two runs and that it. Also how something like leveling a new character up to lvl 60 in a month is better option than this is beyond me.
I always thought of the monthly as encouraging people to try out aspects of the game they normally might not be into such as fractals and WvW and this month, there is the jumping puzzle one.
That said, the fractals are my least favorite part of the game so I would rather they not be part of the monthly but what can you do? The devs clearly want people to at least try them out so no use complaining about it. Like someone else said, it’s only 2 fractal levels.
Is it realistic to run fractals before lvl 80? This is my gripe with the monthly.
I have already done this achievement. I completed level 1 and level 2 with a group of 4 friends. It took us two hours. In a day there are 24 hours, and in a month there are 31 days. This gives you a total of 816 hours wherein you can attempt to finish this achievement. Finishing this achievement will take 1/408th of the total time allocated.
Honestly, you complain about specialised achievments and then you make suggestions like salvage 500 objects? I am someone who does not bother to salvage, and the last time that achievement was in the monthly I had to spend a long time buying trash whites off the TP and individually salvaging them all.
I’m actually growing rather tired of people’s defense of poor game design decisions.
Don’t like Fractals? Just don’t do them.
Don’t like Ascended gear? Just don’t get it.
Don’t like legendaries? Just don’t try for them.
Don’t like monthly achievements? Just don’t do them.
Don’t like WvW? Just don’t do it.
Don’t like PvP? Just don’t do it.
You all do realize that if we take your argument to its logical conclusion with regards to all of the things in this game that need to be fixed, there won’t be much of a game left to play, right?
I don’t disagree that people who complain just to complain are obnoxious, but some of us are complaining because something is actually not designed all that well and there is an actual issue there that needs to be addressed. You don’t need to take personal offense every single time someone comes forward with a complaint about the game.
Monthly achievements are not quite where they need to be yet. Daily achievements have it down pat, allowing you to play wherever you want at any time you want. Now if we can find a way to get monthly achievements to this point, there wouldn’t be a problem any more. The problem stems not from the difficulty or “people just wanna complain”, but rather the fact that monthly achievements are asking people to do things they don’t want to do, which is abnormal when it’s clear that wasn’t supposed to be the point of them.
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You have an ENTIRE month to complete TWO fractal levels.
Are you serious? You can get a fractal group within minutes on ANY sever if you’re willing to put the effort into it.
Matter in fact, if you simply used your resources to actually finish fractals instead of complaining on the forums, you’d be finished making the group and possibly halfway through the achievement.
I finished the fractal achievement without even trying tonight, running through my guild.
Having monthly achievements like that would make me rage, considering you get absolutely nothing but 15 coins and some jugs. Not worth grinding that much for it.
Guys, just do scale 1 and 2 and you’ll be done with it. Takes 1-3 hours.
but rather the fact that monthly achievements are asking people to do things they don’t want to do, which is abnormal when it’s clear that wasn’t supposed to be the point of them.
Well what would you rather have then? Just logging in 30 times gives you the monthly? Come on, lets hear some ideas of what you think should be implemented, I guarantee there will always be complainers no matter you suggest and no one will be able to decide on it until its comes down to being removed altogether because people keep whining. Is that what you want?
All the complainers like to complain but they don’t offer any alternatives. This is what is wrong with these forums.
but rather the fact that monthly achievements are asking people to do things they don’t want to do, which is abnormal when it’s clear that wasn’t supposed to be the point of them.
Well what would you rather have then? Just logging in 30 times gives you the monthly?
See, this is where I stopped taking your post seriously. Because you don’t actually want to hear other ideas, as indicated by your pointlessly sarcastic remark.
There’s no need to be a child. Just because we disagree doesn’t mean you need to be rude.
Come on, lets hear some ideas of what you think should be implemented, I guarantee there will always be complainers no matter you suggest and no one will be able to decide on it until its comes down to being removed altogether because people keep whining. Is that what you want?
Slippery slope fallacy. And boy, did you drag that one out to a preposterous extreme. No one is going to demand the removal of monthly achievements just because they can’t reach the mark (and if they did, I’d be right there with you telling them that they’re being ridiculous).
As for my suggestions? Honestly, I’d just take three of the daily achievements and extend their overall length to make them more befitting of a monthly tally.
I’d go for:
900 Daily Kills
300 Gatherings
75 Events
Which means that you’d only need to max out your daily achievement 15 days out of the month. Pretty fair and reasonable, if you ask me.
The fourth achievement can be the one that changes monthly, corresponding to the new content released for that month. It should be content that is accessible by every player. So for October it could’ve been pumpkin carving, or November could’ve been the karka slayer, for example.
There. A perfectly fair and reasonable suggestion that virtually any player could complete while still playing in whatever parts of the game they want to. No being forced to run one piece of content you don’t like, and best of all, you could still easily finish it off in a few short days if you’re a hardcore player, so it doesn’t in any way hinder your ability to cap out the monthly early.
Do you have something to contribute to the discussion now? Or are you going to keep insisting that everyone who complains has no ideas?
Do you have something to contribute to the discussion now? Or are you going to keep insisting that everyone who complains has no ideas?
Whoah, you really took offense to that. I really didn’t mean it to be offensive at all, nor did I specifically reference your post when I talked about complainers having no ideas but okay.
As to your idea, whats the point of having it like that? Its so repetitive and boring and pointless since you’re going to complete it just by doing daily’s. That’s not fun for me and it makes me think you’re only in it for the reward at the end, which is fine I guess but it’s not how I see it at all.
As to your idea, whats the point of having it like that? Its so repetitive and boring and pointless since you’re going to complete it just by doing daily’s. That’s not fun for me and it makes me think you’re only in it for the reward at the end, which is fine I guess but it’s not how I see it at all.
Let me respond by asking you this:
What’s the point of having daily achievements like that, then?
Isn’t it just as “boring” and “repetitive”? Well no, it’s not, and the reason is because you’re basically allowed to go wherever you want and do whatever you want, and it takes very little play time to complete. I’ve often completed my daily achievement without even realizing that I was getting close to it. It’s all natural and part of the game anyways.
Which is what makes it perfect not only for daily, but monthly achievements as well. You wouldn’t be asked to do anything you don’t normally do throughout the course of playing the game. You could WvW if you wanted, or PvE it if you wanted, and it wouldn’t matter.
That said, it might be nice for them to set up some PvP daily/monthly achievements as well, separate from the PvE ones. I think that’d be a simple step they could take that would move PvP closer to being something that people actually want to do.
its the wvw that pisses me off… i don’t want to spend time in a pvp where you cannot have more than 20fps during zergs. Optimize your game before making me play a slide show!
they both make me angry because i didnt buy this game to run dungeons OR be forced into pvp!
except you’re not “forced” to do anything, its an optional monthly achievement that you strive to achieve, Im not seeing the problem here.
Did I get my point across with the bold lettering and such?
cept there’s a ton of other things i WANT to be doing for rewards that should be in the monthly that don’t include disconnecting dungeons, FR killing pvp, or a new style of dungeon with instakills and DR. I bought this title because they were telling us they would not focus on either of those things and that metas would be their focus. Since the things they were originally supposed to be focusing on all now don’t give rewards the daily monthlies are the only things that do. see my point?
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As to your idea, whats the point of having it like that? Its so repetitive and boring and pointless since you’re going to complete it just by doing daily’s. That’s not fun for me and it makes me think you’re only in it for the reward at the end, which is fine I guess but it’s not how I see it at all.
Let me respond by asking you this:
What’s the point of having daily achievements like that, then?
Isn’t it just as “boring” and “repetitive”? Well no, it’s not, and the reason is because you’re basically allowed to go wherever you want and do whatever you want, and it takes very little play time to complete. I’ve often completed my daily achievement without even realizing that I was getting close to it. It’s all natural and part of the game anyways.
Which is what makes it perfect not only for daily, but monthly achievements as well. You wouldn’t be asked to do anything you don’t normally do throughout the course of playing the game. You could WvW if you wanted, or PvE it if you wanted, and it wouldn’t matter.
That said, it might be nice for them to set up some PvP daily/monthly achievements as well, separate from the PvE ones. I think that’d be a simple step they could take that would move PvP closer to being something that people actually want to do.
They need three pvp, dungeon, and pve (for open world stuff) on monthlies. I refuse to do dungeons or pvp because they told me i can play and be rewarded however i like. i like open world meta pve and farming.
I have a problem with them adding this to the monthly achievement. Not because I don’t like it but because I have yet to be able to finish a full fractal run in the past weeks. A few days ago I thought lets give it a try; and low and behold I disconnected at the beginning of the jade maw event. 2 hours of work and nothing to show for it. Fractal of the Disconnects!
Just 2c here, the monthly reward doesn’t really affect gameplay that much tbh, you only get some karma jugs and some mystic coins, its not like you get anything unique.
Besides, Fotm is perhaps one of the easiest dungeons in the game if you do the lower scale levels. As for WvW; yeah will give you that one ~ but unless your literally on a dead end server that always loses then it could be a problem. I personally did WvW for about 30 minutes earlier just to finish off one of the maps and in that time joined a few of the zergs around and racked up about 38/50 kills needed ~ so again, its not really that hard.
It’s called an ACHEIVEMENT. You guys really expect to be handed everything to you.
Is it realistic to run fractals before lvl 80? This is my gripe with the monthly.
Well it’s ok if you’re running lvl 1 and 2. I dont think mobs are too hard in that you NEED to be level 80 with full exotics to run them. :P
its the wvw that pisses me off… i don’t want to spend time in a pvp where you cannot have more than 20fps during zergs. Optimize your game before making me play a slide show!
they both make me angry because i didnt buy this game to run dungeons OR be forced into pvp!
Because a Monthly Achievement is totally required.
I swear, people are willing to complain about ANYTHING.
It’s something you quickly learn from these forums.
No matter what Anet puts in for the monthly achievements, people will complain about it.
Fractals? I hate fractals! Stop putting them in the monthly!
WvW? I hate PvP! Stop putting it in the monthly!
Dungeons? I hate dungeons! Stop putting it in the monthly.
A very vocal portion of these forums seem to enjoy nothing but making new alts and running around the low level areas. And there’s nothing wrong with that. I just wish they would stop thinking that everything should revolve around them.
The monthly achievements aren’t supposed to focus on just one thing. They’re SUPPOSED to take you out of your comfort zone. They’re SUPPOSED to encourage you to try something new.
Instead you just whine about how you have to do something new.
Is it realistic to run fractals before lvl 80? This is my gripe with the monthly.
Yes, just make sure you let any prospective parties know.
I’ve run tons of guidies through level 1/2/3.
The monthly achievements aren’t supposed to focus on just one thing. They’re SUPPOSED to take you out of your comfort zone. They’re SUPPOSED to encourage you to try something new.
Instead you just whine about how you have to do something new.
That’s 2 months in a row. I think people who hate fractals have been out of their comfort zone enough.
What might be nice if the monthly was best 4 out of 5 ( pick the numbers you like)
For people that hate one aspect ok do the other 4 after all wasnt GW2 about choice why give us only one way to achieve some thing?
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