Q:
GW2 30% off, but no discount on Gem Store DD?
A:
They make real money with those sales, while I’d guess at least 70% of gem-store sales purchases are made with gems purchased with gold.
The only things the Digital Deluxe edition offers, that I find interesting, is the Rytlock Mini and Mistfire Wolf Elite Skill. But that is in no way worth $54.99, infinitely easier to save up 45 gold and buy the 2000 gems.
Only justifiable if you want to have more then 1 account.
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They make real money with those sales, while I’d guess at least 70% of gem-store sales purchases are made with gems purchased with gold.
Misconception – no gems appear in the in-game economy purchased for gold, they are all initially purchased for real money.
Please keep that in mind.
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“We don’t need to make mandatory gear treadmills” -Colin Johanson
-Mike Obrien
“We don’t need to make mandatory gear treadmills” -Colin Johanson
More new players = more gems
Old players leave the game, leaving accounts behind = more left over gems for others = inflation as it is now
I miss the days that 1 gold in gem store could get me around 390 gems.
Misconception – no gems appear in the in-game economy purchased for gold, they are all initially purchased for real money.
Please keep that in mind.
Given how likely the people spending gold on gems is greater then the people spending money on gems, I find that extremely hard to believe.
And even if it were true, it does not change the fact that a majority of gem-store sales can be attributed purely players using in-game-earned gold to buy the gems rather then buying gems with real money.
So a rising demand for gems does not increase Arena Net’s profits by very much.
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Misconception – no gems appear in the in-game economy purchased for gold, they are all initially purchased for real money.
Please keep that in mind.Given how likely the people spending gold on gems is greater then the people spending money on gems, I find that extremely hard to believe.
And even if it were true, it does not change the fact that a majority of gem-store sales can be attributed purely players using in-game-earned gold to buy the gems rather then buying gems with real money.
So a rising demand for gems does not increase Arena Net’s profits by very much.
You have to understand, Arenanet is not selling gems for gold. Only other players are selling gems for gold. Where do these players get the gems to sell for gold? they buy them with real money. So every gem that is bought is bought with real money.
Basically there are some players who can play the game a lot, run a lot of dungeons etc, will spend gold to get gems and buy stuff from the gem store. Then there are players who are impatient or simply don’t have much time to play, so they essentially buy gold, they buy gems with the express purpose of then converting it into gold and those are the gems everyone else can buy with their gold. If there were no one buying gems and selling them for gold, there would not be any gems for anyone to buy with gold.
Misconception – no gems appear in the in-game economy purchased for gold, they are all initially purchased for real money.
Please keep that in mind.Given how likely the people spending gold on gems is greater then the people spending money on gems, I find that extremely hard to believe.
And even if it were true, it does not change the fact that a majority of gem-store sales can be attributed purely players using in-game-earned gold to buy the gems rather then buying gems with real money.
So a rising demand for gems does not increase Arena Net’s profits by very much.
You have to understand, Arenanet is not selling gems for gold. Only other players are selling gems for gold. Where do these players get the gems to sell for gold? they buy them with real money. So every gem that is bought is bought with real money.
Basically there are some players who can play the game a lot, run a lot of dungeons etc, will spend gold to get gems and buy stuff from the gem store. Then there are players who are impatient or simply don’t have much time to play, so they essentially buy gold, they buy gems with the express purpose of then converting it into gold and those are the gems everyone else can buy with their gold. If there were no one buying gems and selling them for gold, there would not be any gems for anyone to buy with gold.
Yep. This rings true, for I have spent $150.00 on gems; a large portion of those purchases going to the exchanging of gems-to-gold.
Misconception – no gems appear in the in-game economy purchased for gold, they are all initially purchased for real money.
Please keep that in mind.Given how likely the people spending gold on gems is greater then the people spending money on gems, I find that extremely hard to believe.
And even if it were true, it does not change the fact that a majority of gem-store sales can be attributed purely players using in-game-earned gold to buy the gems rather then buying gems with real money.
So a rising demand for gems does not increase Arena Net’s profits by very much.
As others have already pointed out, someone has to first buy gems for real money, always. There is no way around it. The only way gems end up on the market is for them to be first purchased for real money by players.
Every single gem on the market has been purchased by real money.
Hence your premise is completly incorrect.
“Otherwise, your MMO becomes all about grinding to get the best gear. We don’t make grindy games.”
-Mike Obrien
“We don’t need to make mandatory gear treadmills” -Colin Johanson
-Mike Obrien
“We don’t need to make mandatory gear treadmills” -Colin Johanson
They make real money with those sales, while I’d guess at least 70% of gem-store sales purchases are made with gems purchased with gold.
Misconception – no gems appear in the in-game economy purchased for gold, they are all initially purchased for real money.
Please keep that in mind.
I’m not 100% sure but I don’t think that’s true.
It was possible to buy gems with gold right from the start of the headstart weekend and there was never any mention that only a certain number of gems were available because that was all that had been traded in so far.
Now it’s possible that the first thing the first players to get in-game did was to buy large quantities of gems and trade them for gold, or that Anet created an initial pool of gems to buy.
But I think it’s more likely it works like the material trader system in GW1. The price is set by supply and demand (so if more people buy gems with gold the value drops and you get less gems for your gold, but would get more gold if you trade in gems) but the actual number is infinite and you’ll never be told there aren’t enough gems available for your transaction.
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There have been sales on the DD upgrade in the gem shop before I think. If you really want it, just be patient, i’m sure it will come around again. And the majority of these people are correct. For you to buy gems with gold, someone else had to have bought those with cash first.
@Danikat, The gems in the market during launch were there mostly from players of the three day head start. There probably were some gems placed in the market to “seed” it, so to speak. But for the first few days no one had the gold to buy gems if they wanted to.
Within an hour of head start launch, I bought four character slots, max bags on two of my characters and four storage panes. I had some left over gems and figured I might as well start with some change in my pocket, so I exchanged them for gold.
The guru forum had a thread along the lines of “what did you do when you first logged in”, and a surprising number did the exact same thing I did. That’s where your launch day gems came from.
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Mat supply in gw1 was not infinite. It frequently ran dry when nicks item of te week was a rare crafting material. John smith has stated that the supply of gems is finite and limited by players
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They make real money with those sales, while I’d guess at least 70% of gem-store sales purchases are made with gems purchased with gold.
Misconception – no gems appear in the in-game economy purchased for gold, they are all initially purchased for real money.
Please keep that in mind.I’m not 100% sure but I don’t think that’s true.
It was possible to buy gems with gold right from the start of the headstart weekend and there was never any mention that only a certain number of gems were available because that was all that had been traded in so far.
Now it’s possible that the first thing the first players to get in-game did was to buy large quantities of gems and trade them for gold, or that Anet created an initial pool of gems to buy.
But I think it’s more likely it works like the material trader system in GW1. The price is set by supply and demand (so if more people buy gems with gold the value drops and you get less gems for your gold, but would get more gold if you trade in gems) but the actual number is infinite and you’ll never be told there aren’t enough gems available for your transaction.
This ^
I definately used in game currency to purchase gems in the headstart… but at the same time that was likely to of been a loss leader to kick the system into action in the knowledge that a higher proprtion of players would be logging in at launch or soon after… so in essence both thoeries could be / are correct,