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Posted by: Spider.3486

Spider.3486

It feels like GW2 life is quite short. Endgame is starts from level 1 i understand, but with the weapon skillsets being good but badly implemented, i cannot for the life of me see me playing with the same skills i could use from day 1. For an mmo, the ability to personalise yourself is what stands out for me, in GW2 that is below basic, sure no one can run a fail build but where is the fun in being the same as the next guy.

PvP is a zerg, nothing more, nothing less. WvW and sPvP is won by whoever has the most players in the area at the time. The holy trinity system of tank heal dps going has turned PvP into a zerg of dps.

Coming from a warrior point of view. To use 2H sword effectively in PvP i NEED some form of immobilisation otherwise auto attack just aint going to cut it, anyone can just walk away from the sword spam. Sword and board feels utterly pointless. So i can block everything for 3 seconds, i like, but that ranger firing that volley of missiles at me can easily kite me away, so without any form of immobilisation, im screwed. So in reality, we can pick and choose our utility skills, but we are forced to use some more than others and a lot of them are plain useless.

At first glance a warrior has lots of weapon choice, but really you are forced into using a certain setup just to be effective. I don’t think i have seen anyone using a mace in PvP or PvE, and i see that only being usable in WvW, but WvW is nothing more than a ranged advantage, so you are forced into using a rifle or bow as a warrior, because as melee, you are going to die, and without a pocket healer, running out of the line is suicide.

As a melee person, i see a warrior as someone who is in your personal space, ruining your day and not giving you half a chance to breathe, but the weapon choices and their skills totally remove that.

GW2 has fantastic ideas, i will admit getting lost in events and whatnot is amazing, but for me, the lack of abilities and the amount of cc on every weapon which is totally not needed in 99% of regular everyday play outside of PvP has ruined the experience.

It would be nice to be able to choose from a pool of skills, im not talking thousands, even if it were an extra 5 per weapon which you could arrange in the way you want, at least than i have some control..

And theese are clearly my opinions, as for the go back to WoW RIFT etc they don’t have that alive, living world which GW2 has.

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Posted by: Algreg.3629

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I would disagree. First of all, in every pvp situation numbers count greatly, so your complaint that the side with overwhelming force will win is invalid. Yes, of cause and rightly so. The natural advantage of ranged weapons is the dictation of combat situation, you got the advantage of doing higher damage when you can close the distance. Also, some kind of immobilization is available for all classes. And finally, warriors can use ranged weapons too. It is not a problem of the system, but your unwillingness to adapt to a given situation. I am quite happy that GW2 finally broke a MMORPG combat system that a million games have been following for years now. Of cause it will take some time to get used to the new possibilities, but I´d rather do that than have the only game with a fresh approach sacrificed on the altar of habitude. So, even if you like the living world, the answer you seek to avoid seems like a better solution to me. I do not intend this to be a personal attack, but I do not want to play yet another version of the randomly named EQ-clone (or whatever game originally started the tank/healspam-concept).

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Posted by: Twaddlefish.6537

Twaddlefish.6537

On the subject of CC, you only need to look at Huttball in SWTOR to see how bad constant stun locks can be. I rolled an Inquistor Assassin and I could barely move from constant CC.

As a warrior in this game, you can’t just wade in and spank them with a bit of steel until they fall over; dodge, use all your skills.

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Posted by: SpyderBite.6274

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I am quite happy that GW2 finally broke a MMORPG combat system that a million games have been following for years now.

This. ^^

I’ve been waiting almost a decade for a game that finally escapes the cookie cutter class profiles and abilities.

GW2 forces people to PvP with some skill behind the keyboard rather than relying on the equipment you farm.

It is refreshing, and has pulled me back in to the MMO genre games again with enthusiasm for the first time in a very, very long time.

Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock.

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Posted by: Pandemoniac.4739

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If you think the zerg is effective in WvW you’re not playing on (or against) a shard with some larger guilds that are serious about WvW. Our guild pushed the other shards off the map with 30 people split into multiple strike teams coordinating over Teamspeak. After we were done and left, the folks that zerg handed it all back.

An organized group can drag a zerg all over the map and stay two steps ahead of them. Then giggle as they fight to retake a supply camp that has nowhere to send their pack mules.

Don’t ever think you know what’s right for the other person.
He might start thinking he knows what’s right for you.
—Paul Williams

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Posted by: Slaunyeh.9852

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If the ranger is kiting you, you could pull out your rifle and shoot him in the face. Crazy, I know.

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Posted by: ZudetGambeous.9573

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I’m sorry but can you explain how 8v8 sPvP is a zerg that depends on who has the most players?

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Posted by: Algreg.3629

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to add, I think you do not understand how deep the character building system really is if you narrow it to the weapon skills of your favorite weapon set. Not only can you change that, but there is also a huge number of “right side” skill combinations. The costumization of your traits is another thing easily overlooked at first glance. you can freely distribute between a number of traits that will further unlock various perks, every second of which you can choose from a list of quite some variety. Those skills and the traits are not unlocked after an hour of playing – I think you see the game from a very biased position and you do not bother exploring its possibilities.

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Posted by: gjvah.2431

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OP, try experiment with new weapon and skill combos. Use everything available, including evasive techniques, and switch strategy based on who you’re fighting. The beauty of GW2 is that the smarter player wins. Not the one with better gear or higher stats. (these are trivial). GW2 is like playing action packed chess, think ahead, communicate with your team (team speak, mumble, etc.) and use your head. You will enjoy the game immensely if you do.

The satisfaction of outthinking someone is a lot better than knowing you only beat them because you spent 40000 hours in PVE trying to get the best possible weapon/armor.

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Posted by: mulch.2586

mulch.2586

What I’ve seen is the pvp maps have a lot of structures in them – a few open areas, a few closed in areas.

They’re not like wide-open maps (like, say, Rift’s) where range is always an advantage. That said, you’re gonna want to select a set-up that has gap-closers, cripples, and things like that. And you’re always gonna find mesmers annoying.

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Posted by: Fieel.3876

Fieel.3876

You are basically saying that you don’t like the game at all, lol. Sorry, but if you want the skills to work like that this isn’t the game for you.. :S

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