Guild Wars 2

So Anet, if ascended gear really is being added to “all aspects of the game” and if it isn’t really about adding more grind to the game, then give me a refund on all the exotics I already bought. Because I sure as heck wouldn’t have spent 250k karma or thousands of dungeon tokens on exotics if there were something better to spend them on. It was a horrible grind just to get the exotics in your “game without a grind” and I’m sure the ascended gear will be even worse.

Only if you agree to trade all your exotics right now for the… 2? ascended items currently available. You can figure out what to do with the rest of your slots.

I am not happy with this new approach so today is my last day here, but asking refunds goes a step too far for me.

Awesome.6120:

Only if you agree to trade all your exotics right now for the… 2? ascended items currently available. You can figure out what to do with the rest of your slots.

I’ll do that. Even with reduced drop rates I can get my other gear back faster than I can pick up one piece of ascended gear.

.. wouldnt that be the same logic as saying, waaah i worked for an exotic weapon. Give me a legendary because I worked for my exotic?

I mean ascension gear is essentially legendary armor, and its not even blocking you from content.

I dont see anyone whining about people with legendary weapons killing them.

RhysSebastian.7651:

I mean ascension gear is essentially legendary armor, and its not even blocking you from content.
.

So for you its perfectly fine place a huge boost on item that can be aquired only with a massive farm…
on WvW and heavy grinder can have a lot more power then a WvW only player.. this is just wrong.

Can I get a refund on my masterwork gear? No? Then why would I get a refund on Exotics?

The sad part is, karma system seems to be completely undermined now. Even (that a big “even” if) if ANet allows Ascended gear to be purchasable via karma, that’s a ways away.

I would never have posted this but yeah i spend so much time and gold for my exotics and a week later its downgraded by new gear. Starting to really dislike the game now. They said they would never do what they doing right now.

Ganzo.5079:

RhysSebastian.7651:

I mean ascension gear is essentially legendary armor, and its not even blocking you from content.
.

So for you its perfectly fine place a huge boost on item that can be aquired only with a massive farm…
on WvW and heavy grinder can have a lot more power then a WvW only player.. this is just wrong.

13% higher stats over exotics=/=huge boost. Considering the fact that most people will never see them, I dont expect for it to have a huge effect on WvW.

bigbobpataki.4796:

Ganzo.5079:

RhysSebastian.7651:

I mean ascension gear is essentially legendary armor, and its not even blocking you from content.
.

So for you its perfectly fine place a huge boost on item that can be aquired only with a massive farm…
on WvW and heavy grinder can have a lot more power then a WvW only player.. this is just wrong.

13% higher stats over exotics=/=huge boost. Considering the fact that most people will never see them, I dont expect for it to have a huge effect on WvW.

Open gw2db and search the ascended quality ring, and cofront it with a exotics ring.
Then tell me if its the 13%, and… let me say that even the 13% is a really huge boost!

Asking for refunds because the game is really a single-player RPG instead of a MMO is a much more sensible idea.

Lets us this picture: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/2/22/Ascended_example.png

First of all, I was wrong, its not 13%, its more around 8%, thanks for pointing this out. I don’t believe its that massive of a boost to break the game like many on the forums are predicting.

bigbobpataki.4796:

Lets us this picture: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/2/22/Ascended_example.png

First of all, I was wrong, its not 13%, its more around 8%, thanks for pointing this out. I don’t believe its that massive of a boost to break the game like many on the forums are predicting.

Someone is really bad at math ^
The backpiece alone is WAY more then 8-13%. It introduces not only almost double of that stats already included on backpieces but it includes double with stats that aren’t normally included. You are also forgetting the representation of % based increases like Crit damage.
If I get a ring that has 5% total crit damage with the gem (like berserker exotic), then a ring is introduced with 8% critical damage total http://www.gw2db.com/items/71359-adelberns-royal-signet-ring that is a 60% jump !!!!!!!!!!! not 8-13%

You are also forgetting the compounding nature, I will explain:
http://www.gw2db.com/items/71354-khilbrons-phylactery
vs
http://www.gw2db.com/items/72071-plague

The ascended ring has roughly 9.4% increase of EACH stat. If it was only ONE stat that was increased by 9.4% on the ascended version, then the ascended ring would in fact be a 9.4% increase total from the exotic version. HOWEVER on the ascended items since ALL stats are a 9.4% increase, it actually turns out to be a 28.2% increase from the exotic version, and that is just basing off the ring stats alone NOT the gem. So with the gem being also a 9.4% increase on each stat we are looking at a 56.4% increase from exotic.

I will explain in simple terms for those who do not understand:
If I release a sandwich made of just Bread, Pickles, and Ham. These are the ingredients at 100%.
Then I release a second sandwich that has 15% more pickles. The sandwich now has 15% more ingredients, and it would be no different then if I added 5% bread + 5% more pickles +5% more ham (15% total)

A-net is released the first sandwich with 100% ingredients, promised, advertised and gloated that that would be the most ingredients the sandwich would ever consist of,
Now they just released a sandwich with 19% (rounded) more Bread, 19% more pickles AND 19% more ham.