Guild Wars 2

I’m not sure if this has been discussed before, but a universal Trading Post (across all servers) puts those on losing WvW servers at a disadvantage.

In a particular tier, winning WvW servers accrue more points than the losing servers they are beating. The more points they have, the larger bonuses they get to crafting, gathering and gold drops. And every point the winner takes, is a point the loser does not get, depressing the bonus they receive.

So, on the winning WvW servers, PvE players will have more mats and better crafted items to put on the TP, depressing prices. Furthermore, they will have more gold from drops, inflating the prices for rare items like precursors or legendaries.

In the short term, the numbers are small, but in the long term, it may well make a difference. WvW rankings have stabilized, so those who are in third place in their tier, may well spend a long time locked in that position.

TL;DR : Winning WvW matters, because if you lose, with the global TP, you will get less money for your crafts and mats, and will have less gold to pay for inflated rare items.

Thrumdi.9216:

TL;DR : Winning WvW matters, because if you lose, with the global TP, you will get less money for your crafts and mats, and will have less gold to pay for inflated rare items.

IF your theory is correct, sounds like working as intended.

Your argument doesn’t make sense. There’s always a total of 695 points to be shared between servers in every matchup every 15 minutes. This is the static rate at which WvW-induced inflation occurs and how the points are divided between servers doesn’t matter.

Zenith.6403:

Your argument doesn’t make sense. There’s always a total of 695 points to be shared between servers in every matchup every 15 minutes. This is the static rate at which WvW-induced inflation occurs and how the points are divided between servers doesn’t matter.

695 points are awarded every 15 minutes. The portion of these 695 points a server wins are then added to a pool that counts towards the next bonus unlock. When the pool reaches a certain amount, the bonus is awarded, and a new pool starts for the next unlock.

The bigger the share of the 695 points a server gets per tick, the quicker they unlock the bonuses. This is where the winning servers get their advantage on the universal TP. They get the bonuses more quickly, and, if the losing server is unable to get enough points to get the unlock, “a bonus gap” will be opened up.

At least that is how I understand it. Though if I’m wrong, I can certainly be corrected.

Critical chance on crafting only gives extra exp.
Gathering bonuses don’t mean anything seeing how you can guest to 2 other servers and gather.
Gold only counts from DROPS, not events.

Failing to see where this “massive gap” occurs

Winning server is relative to matchup and there’s new matchmaking every weekend. Because of this it’s unlikely that one server will get dramatic advantage over others. The number of points needed to unlock further tiers is also scaled upwards so while there might be difference in points there might not be so big difference in rewards.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Power_of_the_Mists

check on the mos site to see how many winning servers are predicted to not be winning next week too

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pretty sure itll still be 0

well, considering that I think no server will come away with no bonuses at all, I don’t think this a problem. Not to mention that the entire point behind WvW beyond pvp in the first place is to gain bonuses for your realm.

Why state the obvious?

Edit: also, if a realm/server has more pve players with little WvW representation and are gaining tiny bonuses, then that server basically gets what it deserves. You don’t wanna fight, then you better pick up the pace with the mob farming and node looting.

Akari Storm.6809:

Edit: also, if a realm/server has more pve players with little WvW representation and are gaining tiny bonuses, then that server basically gets what it deserves. You don’t wanna fight, then you better pick up the pace with the mob farming and node looting.

This. More people in PvE gathering and killing mobs more than compensates for any benefit WvW heavy servers get from winning.

You can’t be serious.

insanemaniac.2456:

check on the mos site to see how many winning servers are predicted to not be winning next week too

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pretty sure itll still be 0

Oh, i don’t know. My server keeps going up and down, depending on matchups and whether we get up or down a tier.

Akari Storm.6809:

well, considering that I think no server will come away with no bonuses at all, I don’t think this a problem. Not to mention that the entire point behind WvW beyond pvp in the first place is to gain bonuses for your realm.

Why state the obvious?

Edit: also, if a realm/server has more pve players with little WvW representation and are gaining tiny bonuses, then that server basically gets what it deserves. You don’t wanna fight, then you better pick up the pace with the mob farming and node looting.

Actually, it has nothing to do with the level of WvW participation on your server. It is totally based on your rank within the tier.

Thus, you could be a Tier 1 or Tier 2 server with a huge segment of your players who are always in WvW. However, if the other 2 servers in your Tier have better Oceanic coverage than you, or are just better organized, and you always come in third, you will get the lesser bonus. In this respect, coming in third in Tier 1 is the same as coming third in Tier 8.

The larger point really is the problem with a universal TP in a system where servers have unequal access to resources. As said above, those servers who win their tier get more, those who lose, get less. If each server had their own TP, it wouldn’t be a problem. But since winners and losers share a TP, the inequality comes into play.

The numbers are relatively small, but when you see how up in arms people get about minor changes to loot drops, it’s surprising this hasn’t bee more discussed. If one server had been arbitrarily awarded more copper nodes than another there would be a huge controversy, even if the amounts were piddling.

And reason is, skill has nothing to do with scoring in WvW. It comes down to has the most off-peak “night-cappers”. If it was purely skill, economic penalties would make sense. But not in this case.

Win more WvsW.
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Profit!