Guild Wars 2

Following Orpheal.8263 footsteps, I present you the Guild Hall CDI – The condensed summary edition!

Please do NOT post your ideas here. Check out the link below if you have a suggestion:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/CDI-Guilds-Guild-Halls/first

Link to the previous CDI summary thread :
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Guild-CDI-The-Complete-Summary-Edition/first#post4470257

This summary won’t repeat suggestions that have been named xx times, it is a summary of the main thread page by page and each idea is included once. I have also included sub discussions between devs and players but that are scattered through pages.
Note : I shorten Guild Hall as GH.

PAGE 1

vonbladewing.5973
Guild Hall is purchased a floating island in the mists. More buildings can be added to the island

EnemyCrusher.7324
Guild hall can be upgraded to have the same services as the borderland, without the queue

Stars.2179
Guild Hall should be decorated and the decorations can be customized

Yalora Istairiea.6287
Collective Ideas – https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/CDI-Guilds-Guild-Halls/4454209
The Guild District Instanced part of LA or major city where guild members can gather together.
The Guild Plot Guild Hall have a footprint on their surroundings
Requirements to build a guild hall

Tobias Trueflight.8350
Each member of the guild can contribute to the GH building Contributions can take the form of gold, materials etc…

Arcadio.6875
Possibility to fast travel/warp to the GH with the guild pannel (ala GW1)
Guild Halls have portals to the WvW

Retro.6831
GH neighbourhood are instanced, only the most prestigious appear in open world LA

Tamasan.6457
GH are also used for GvG

Conski Deshan.2057
Collective ideas https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/CDI-Guilds-Guild-Halls/4454253
GH are a nexus of rewards and “bragging rights” Include earned trophies and displays a leaderboard inside the GH
General appearance of the Hall can be chosen (ala GW1)
GH include duelling ring/golem chess/target dummies (same as HotM)

Devata.6589
GH letting you unlock ‘building blocks’ with other guild activities

AlienMenace.7516
Guild Hall entrances should be in existing zones (not just LA)

Clerigo.9475
Entry points for porting to your GH would be in major locations like ebonhawke The constant flow of players getting in or out of GH would help fill these places
guild Hall of Monuments

Rambodacious.7495
GH are instanced zones that act as WvW maps when queued up Similar to how SPvP queueing works now

Relshdan.6854
Guild Neighborhoods: instanced zones that can host multiple GH from different guilds
Relshdan outlined that it could outshine the Personnal instance.

Arzo.8671
make sure you implement GH so that small guilds can be involved as well

Iason Evan.3806
Guild Town: GH have connections to personnal instances and capitals

Piogre.2164
Guild member statues and portraits, and item display cases in the GH

Yalora Istairiea.6287
GH can also include Alliance Courtyard Courtyard might propose services that GH cannot.+

candeewolf.8234
GH can include a function to create exclusive access shards for organizing megabosses.

Vanive.3804
nodes for harvesting that you unlock through guild achievements in the GH

Thats it for Page I
Everything in between of stuff, that isn’t mentioned here were either Dev Postings, discussions between people, repeated suggestions or offtopic postings/rants and other stuff which I left out here for this conscise full summary.

Continues for Page II

Page II

HHR LostProphet.4801
GH have a blackboard for announcements Others ideas already mentionned in page 1 as well.

Prophet.6257
Guild Zones: special themed zones with player/guild/alliance driven content These zones contain ennemies.

azizul.8469
take the GW1 Guild Hall model, and implement it in GW2

Healix.5819
Guild Airships – mobile guild halls that add a moveable waypoint to the world

Palador.2170
Build the Guild Hall system in three tiers: Small Guild, Large Guild, Personal Housing
Different pricing for each of the options available.

Cronos.6532
GH have an outdoor portion and is built with verticality in mind
Put Kouris in the GH (Use GW2W to find who kouris is if you don’t already know )

Prophet.6257
adding a couple different paths to obtain a GH

timmyf.1490
Guild Halls should allow guild leaders/officers to recognize the contribution of members

Edgar Doiron.2804
Collective ideas https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/CDI-Guilds-Guild-Halls/4454727
Some ideas already mentionned. I will report only what I didn’t see before:
GH can be an entire instanced map and the GH/castle is only a fraction of the map Option to build smaller houses in this map.

Edgar Doiron.2804
Guild Neighbourhoods: this has been done in LOTRO

Neox.3497
GH should not make Royal Terrace Pass/Captain’s Airship Pass useless/obsolete

Sol.8341
Ability to load Guild Hall Structure against another Guild’s for capture the flag map GvG
Release of a worldbuilder client with tools to customise Guild Hall Structure. Think Lego Sandbox.

Ben K.6238
WvW guild castles that contribute to the score Take inspiration from Aion.

MakubeC.3026
Place GH where Guilds could logically coexist, even if they in reality don’t
Don’t place all GH at the same location.
Place a board where you can see a summary for each player
Includes hours played, AP, short description of themselves that they wrote.

Thats it for Page II

Continues for Page III

Page III

Luna.9640
Mistcity: All the GH in a single map
Not sure I understand this one completely.
Link to OP https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/CDI-Guilds-Logistics-and-QOL/4414078

Torsailr.8456
Details on what the hall should contain
Achievement Room, factory room, farming area, room for RPers.

Alerno.1425
Idea to have either a Guild hall in major city or a Guild keep in mists

Graphite.2169
HGH having tools to train members in different aspects of the game (mainly for PvE)

Areann.1304
As the guild grow in size, the GH gets extre rooms that have to be filled
Taxidermist Room included in GH

Vipers Buddy.4320
have customizable guild mascots which serve to welcome members to the guild hall

Scarletdusk.2504
Unique weapon and armor skins for the use of Guild Halls and participation within the guild

VIRAL.9548
multiple ideas https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/CDI-Guilds-Guild-Halls/4455250
GH upgrading tied in the GUI
Guild Quest board

Devata.6589
unlocking/cutomizing the GH not unlocked with currency but with guild achievements

Xaylin.1860
More details on what should be inside the GH https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/CDI-Guilds-Guild-Halls/4455285
Furniture and decorations with themes based on races, Dye gardening/alchemy, Library/study room with access to lore, Mystic Forge,
All active guild banner buffs should be available within the guild hall
Personal accountwide quarter/room. Home instances just don’t work

Blaeys.3102
GH include a Guild PVE Danger Room
Similar to the candidate trials event we saw during “Cuthroat Politics” (that scales)
Customized Guild Jumping Puzzle
Outer Walls/New Guild Mission (defense of the GH)

Zelanard.5806
Guild castles, and guild outposts
The castles are in the the open world and can be conquered though GvG. Outposts in the open world cannot be conquered.

That Guy.5704
GH can contain a custom arena that features FFA deathmatches

Iason Evan.3806
Guild Hall Jumping Puzzle/Guild Hall Gauntlet/Guild Collections

Thats it for Page III
Lot of redundancy in term of proposition. I realize there are two emerging consensuses : instanced vs open-world GH.
There is also a fraction of people that want to fuse the GvG and GH together as in GW1.
Continues for Page IV

Page IV

Thorfinnr Sleggja.1209
Allow us to invite guests to our Hall.
Guests cannot use services. Allow Guests to play Guild Games

ShadowDragoonFTW.3418
RIFT has customizatble GH and Home instances, inspiration can be taken from this game

XarOneZeroNine.2374
GH should not have upkeep fees ever
GH should include a BLTC delivery man

michealmikeyb.4716
Server based instances where guild halls can be built and added onto by claiming land

Haath.7391
make guild members be able to open, close doors and treat the guild hall like an actual ‘home’

Bormy.9814
combine the player-wish of player housing with the guild halls in the concept of guild city

Nacht Fuchs.3762
Give guilds the possibility to design their own GH in a sandbox style

smiteroevil.8632
GH include trophies of megabosses slain by the guild

Silvercyclone.1462
Guild Airship should be able to dock with other guild airship
Guild Airship should be able to move around the world
GA can be used as siege weapon in WvW

Page IV is done. Still a lot of work ahead.

Onwards for page V!

Page V:
Donari.5237
Do not allow guild halls to decay The only way to have a GH disappear is when the guild is disbanded.

MakubeC.3026
Customization should extend to the placement of the furnitures inside the GH

Raiddx.8436
Guild Hall Add-on; Menagerie

Coodles.6198
Guild Airship Fleet Allow guilds to have more than one airship

Kasima.8143
To make the guild halls customizable using an interface and a system similar to Skyrim Hearthfire
GH large enough for commanders to have plenty of room to use /supplyinfo without interference

Alcarin.9024
GH as instanced LA areas, no link with GvG but linked with the living world

FerrisDJ.7624
In order to maintain the guild hall , the members must do active tasks
Basically the opposite of what other suggested either. I’m putting this here for the sake of debate.

Thats it for Page V

Page VI

Torsailr.8456
Let every guild get a guild hall automatically, for free, when they hit 20 members

QuantumS.6802
Guild halls are fractals of former areas and structures in the open world

Xar.1387
It shouldnt be that easy to build everything in ur GH. Not every guild should have a GH
This is opposing a previous suggestion by Torsailr.8456

Yalora Istairiea.6287
Guild Camps A temporary encampment area set up by a particular guild allowing access to various resources to all who visit

Pocket.2740
WvW- Airships being used in WvW to ferry supplies and guild mates
Location matters Each map where the airship is docked could have a unique ‘mooring’ cost and unique bonuses.

Mash Hog.5672
have a reward track to collect resources to contribute towards building the guild hall
Chris already approves.

Spyderson.8371
New square in a renovated LA built around a physical bulletin board to post Guild recruitment messages, open guild missions, public guild raid in WvW, open challenges to other guilds
Permalink to see the attachment : https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/CDI-Guilds-Guild-Halls/4459127

jheryn.8390
GH include function to build more guild socialization without having to resort to TS and Websites

Alcarin.9024
GH customization like WvW siege

that’s it for page VI.

I’ll continue this this evening. See you for page VII.

Please try to comply with the suggested post format in the CDI’s OP
Otherwise it’s a pain for me to extract the essence of your proposition.

Page VII

timmyf.1490
Visitor’s Area or Public Room of Guild Halls openly accessible to all players once built
Zone to recruit/show off.

Alcarin.9024
seperate the GvG and GH
Is opposing an earlier suggestion

Palador.2170
The function of each room in the GH can be selected
What can be placed in the room will depend on the function it is set to.

Iason Evan.3806
remove fairly large swaths of underwater areas to accommodate Guild Hall placement in the game world

Iason Evan.3806
suggest a scaling upgrades system of the cost of purchasing rewards

Marcus Greythorne.6843
Hall of Monuments in the GH, but for the top 3 players of that guild in certain categories

PlagueParade.7942
GH can be acquired by guilds just like players can acquire custom PvP arenas
Access to GH is similar to accessing custom arenas

Huddo.1065
Monstrous post link: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/CDI-Guilds-Guild-Halls/4459984
Guild Architecture upgrades tab would need to be reworked
GH’s should not replace cities or Lions Arch (so, leave out mystic forge and/or trading post)
detailed approach on how to expand the hall (sims vs runescape)
Allows guild leader (and selected ranks) to enter build mode to expand your GH
Add many categories of visual upgrades for the GH Refer to the post for more details.
Have a guest list of non representing people that can enter the hall
Introduce new activities exclusive to the GH (Races, soccer (Asuraball?), bowels, crochet, make obstacle courses etc)

Nitross.6987
GH could have a War upgrade that lets you open a path your hall from the claimed fort

Sarrs.4831
Guild Halls can be used as a model for WvW objectives

Baltzenger.2467 Made a nice summary of the emerging consensus(es?) in this post :
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/CDI-Guilds-Guild-Halls/4459255

Page VII is now covered, I hope I did not miss anything.

Page VIII
Nitross.6987
GH have combat features that need to be maintained

Ohoni.6057
Guild Hall are instanced except for the guilds that pay a fee to display it in LA

Sarrs.4831
GH act functionally as a graphical representation of the guild’s upgrades

Retro.6831
Refinement on GH upkeep: failure to pay the upkeep just put unlocked features on hold
No loss of permanent progress regarding GH.

Hoaxintelligence.4628
If GvG happens in GH, allow the players to use food

Kitsunelady.2180
If you can’t see an in-game storyline reason for having some random schmo npcs providing that in guildhalls

Devata.6589
prevent abandoned guild-halls and ghost towns by removing their open world plot

Yalora Istairiea.6287
Refinement of the concept of upkeep: tax should come during the progression/construction of GH, not after

Gobble D Goop.4081
Include GvG NPCs in the GH (Note to gobble: as the Mercs in GW1 GvG ?)

Swish.2463
Adapt the reputation system of GW Faction in GW2 to help determine who controls what
Guilds can control PvE maps and apply bonuses to said maps for X amounts of time such as Higher rare item drop rates

Elitejelly.7462
Guild Jobs: A board where members can go to, inside the guildhall, and accept jobs for rewards

Palador.2170
GH size is divided in 3 tiers and 6 visual styles are possible
Upgrading the size of the GH takes influence, upgrading once the max size is reached requires merits

Nutjob.9021
Hall of Portraits: a galleries of portraits of the members

Iason Evan.3806
increase the party size in guild halls to be greater that 5
Allows the GH to be a hub to prepare for GvG and raids.

Conski Deshan.2057
Dress-able “suits of armor” to line guild hall passages

Torsailr.8456
GH start as a basic building, can then be upgraded to airship/fortress/castle/command center
Note : each type of upgrade has tiers of progression as well.

rapthorne.7345
Guild Dungeons. An instance (variable, like fractals) within the guild base that can be completed by the guild as a whole

Elric.6971
Guild halls are ‘Unstable Mist Fractals’ this is to justify there are millions of them without them being on the map
Guild Versus Guild battles where basically two world’s collide

Gulesave.5073
What if we actually built the guild hall ourselves

This is it for page VIII

Controversies so far as pointed out by Conski Deshan.2057 :
Instanced VS Open World VS Semi-Instanced.
Any form of tax/Upkeep VS no tax/upkeep.
Neighborhood/village (<1 guild) VS Single Hall (1 guild).
Gvg incorporated into guildhalls (ala gw1) VS completely separate gvg.
Larger Guilds have easier access VS Scaled access based on membership

I find it nice that You want to take the work away from me through basically cloning my Thread and the honorary mention of me is nice, but my own version of the Phase 2 will be definetely completely different and more fleshed out than this, what I’ve done in this conscise style just only for Phase 1, because it was obvious, that Phase 1 will get flooded by tons of brainstormed ideas and there it was important for me and my summary only to catch up all unique ideas in a quick and clean way that anybody can overlook easily.

But now with Phase 2, there is no need anymore to be super conscise, now we have only 1 clear topic – Guild Halls – and so the structure of that related summary can be a bit more full of descriptions, sub points ect. to give that topic more structure.

Sadly I hadn’t lately much time, so I couldn’t be able to keep my summary on pace with the CDI GH Thread, which I think is the reason, why You started this Thread now.
But I think I will take some time over the next Weekend to get my summary about Phase 2 started and I’ll make sure that this thread will find somewhere its place inside of it.

PS. there can be only 1 complete summary edition :P – Mine ^^

Orpheal.8263:

I find it nice that You want to take the work away from me through basically cloning my Thread and the honorary mention of me is nice, but my own version of the Phase 2 will be definetely completely different and more fleshed out than this, what I’ve done in this conscise style just only for Phase 1, because it was obvious, that Phase 1 will get flooded by tons of brainstormed ideas and there it was important for me and my summary only to catch up all unique ideas in a quick and clean way that anybody can overlook easily.

But now with Phase 2, there is no need anymore to be super conscise, now we have only 1 clear topic – Guild Halls – and so the structure of that related summary can be a bit more full of descriptions, sub points ect. to give that topic more structure.

Sadly I hadn’t lately much time, so I couldn’t be able to keep my summary on pace with the CDI GH Thread, which I think is the reason, why You started this Thread now.
But I think I will take some time over the next Weekend to get my summary about Phase 2 started and I’ll make sure that this thread will find somewhere its place inside of it.

PS. there can be only 1 complete summary edition :P – Mine ^^

Hi orpheal!

There is no competition nor rivalry and I do not think I can possibly take all your work away.

As you stated, I started the thread because I (and probably others) have trouble keeping up with the discussion.

For now, I’ll stick with my consize approach. Consider this as a collection of bookmarks on where to find ideas.

I have kept a backup notepad of all my posts so I can send it to you if you wish.

Onwards for page IX:

Huddo.1065
Improvement over the previous post https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/CDI-Guilds-Guild-Halls/4461863
separate GH progression in two categories: first pick a visual (charr, asura…), then pick a theme (airship/castle/…)
Listing of possible purchasable upgrades for the GH
GH item wardrobe
guild materials

Ghotistyx.6942
There’s talk of Alliances. Can Neighborhoods be of use for them ?

Alcarin.9024
Golems should help you building heavier objects. Why moving yourself heavy objects, when a golem could do it for you
there could be PvE siege assault/defence events that could be located in GvG maps

Trent.5201
Trophy to represent the amount of money given to rebuild LA
Guild achievements to unlock trims for guild capes
Import GW1 guild cape with an NPC that allows us to customize it
Permanent SAB can be unlocked in the GH
dancing floor and consumable vendors (rockets, bombs etc) in GH

Devata.6589
Locate the GH in the sky of tyira, a set of maps over the surface of tyria
GH are visible from below but not in detail.
Upgrades for the GH are acquired by earning blueprints
Blueprints drop in event that are done as a guild, they are “guild bound”

Rambodacious.7495
GH include target dummy with DPS calculation
Include tutorial area where you can learn what each boon/condition does
Make sure the airship can have a jumping puzzle with a chest at the end

Page IX is done.

Page X is bloody hard to rationalize.

I’ll split this in two : first post is similar to the previous ones. The second one will focus on a discussion started by jon.

Vix.6730
What is the point of having customizable tables and chairs if you cannot interact with them ?

Damar.5982
allow guilds to design their halls based on something similar to the original X-COM games
GH are based on a 4×4 grid and players can add combinations of 1×1, 1×2 and 2×2 elements to it

Tobias Trueflight.8350
In GH one could be able to edit decorative elements, such as swapping out statues for other statues, or none at all
Take inspiration from Ultima Online and FFXIV

Torsailr.8456
GH are edited through the use of a grid based floorplan
This could include a drag-n-drop system for placing windows, doors, fireplaces, artwork, alcoves, etc…

NvN.4321
Put the roof over a racial home instance and call it a Guild Hall
Add NPCs, furniture, bathroom and a quaggan (or skiritt) with a broom

Jaken.6801
Allow lighting to be customized in the GH
If GH are in a seperate instance, have the option choose the surrounding land where it is placed

Egron Redmoon.5764
If the guild halls become instanced, allow it to be an instance one can log into

Fowidner.6930
Include in GH a “Wall of fame and Shame”
Suggested activities that can be performed in the GH: Keg brawl 2.0, Blecher’s Bluff 2.0, living chess, dance party…
Include WvW statistics, including list of claimed and captured objectives
Add a “learn to dodge tutorial”

Jaken.6801
By messuring the activity of the Guild in certain activities unlocks are granted which reflect the main areas a Guild is active
Similiar to reward tracks in PvP, every member contributes some points to an Guild-Event-Unlock-Track (this is not an AP tracker).

Kootje.9271
Raising one concern up regarding guild-sizes. The system should be able to differenciate between active and inactive players

Page X part 2:

Jon asked 4 questions on page X. I am quoting the contributors who explicitely answered:

1)What do people see as the benefits of instanced? i.e Your guild could control permissions on the map.
Tobias Trueflight.8350
Instanced GH save up lots of server ressources and removes real estate issues
Baltzenger.2467
Instanced GH offer a more “clean” presentation for the system,could be very customizable, without affecting other players.
Instanced GH are private, which at some level, is what we want from a GH
Torsailr.8456
Easy access. Teleport into them the same way WvW and PVP works.
Maximum flexibility. You don’t need to worry about space limitations or what is going on around it. You can, in theory, expand as much as you want.
Luna.8691
Megaserver technology will likely clash with open world Guild Halls
This encourages developers to experiment more with Guild Halls to improve their functions without worrying about breaking the main game.
Jaken.6801
Outside (exterior or outside world) and Inside (interior or Guild Grounds) do not have to be linked
Conski Deshan.2057
Requires far less development time which is critical because I’d like to see guildhalls by Q2 2015
The population count on a map would only consist of guild members and not be wasted by randoms.
CureForLiving.5360
If each main city can have a a guild hall then they can have different themes

2)What do you see as the benefits of open world guild halls? i.e Your guild could control and improve something in the world that benefits more than just its members.
Baltzenger.2467
If GH are located in open world, the “visual integrity” of the game would be affected.
All in all it depends on what we get for starters.
Torsailr.8456
Bragging rights. Look at what I got.
Ohoni.6057
Well, it’d be nice to see the outside of the buildings and feel that they have a permanent address.
Luna.8691
Do you really want to GM police gold sellers / trolls camping a popular Guild Hall ?
Jaken.6801
Creating a Neighborhood, or Communities next to each other
Possibilities for a WvW integration. Alliance against Alliance, represented by their Neighborhoods
Marcus Greythorne.6843
If the hall got damaged from npc-enemies, every player around can donate materials / do events in order to repair the halls.
Fully repaired halls and other done objectives might start meta-events on open world bosses etc
CureForLiving.5360
The basic idea goes that a random players is leveling through a zone and comes across a guild hall, sees all the trophies, all the unique architecture etc.

Page X part 3: Jon’s discussion cont’d

3)How could we get the benefits of instanced guild halls in a system of open world guild halls? eg. Guild Halls are air ships that attach to places in the world improving that area for a while, but move around and have many attachment points. Access to the ship itself is controlled, but you still are in the open world.
Torsailr.8456
Have a guild hall in the open world. When you enter it ports you to your specific guild hall. Kind of like someone turned a Tardis into a hotel.
Chapell.1346
Use instanced GH in GvG as in GW1
DiogoSilva.7089
Make dynamic events in the open-world for guild resource gathering. This would still give some life to maps.
Make the portal’s locations different for each guild hall, spread around the world map, and give those entrances a small hub for guild members.
SkyShroud.2865
Guild hall entrance can be made to accept only guild members while outsiders can still see the external of it
CureForLiving.5360
Depending on if there’s any noticeable impact that a open world Guild Hall has on the surrounding zone (i.e. is the guild hall just a static building on a mountain or does it start quests, change event changes etc.)
Retro.6831
(Privacy) Chat / emote inside guild halls cannot extend beyond the lot size.
(Navigation) Simply ensure the housing zone’s terrain is varied enough, has highly visible landmarks and an abundance of waypoints.

4)How could we get the benefits of open world guild halls in a system where guild halls are instanced? eg. Guild Halls are still halls but have functionality that lets guild create temporary content that attach to open world maps.
Tobias Trueflight.8350
Let there be an exterior Hall Grounds, and an interior Hall Chambers. The Grounds can be public areas for people to visit in, but the interior is instanced and only available via permissions granted
Torsailr.8456
Have representations of guild halls scattered around the cities. They wouldn’t be functional, just skins replacing some existing buildings.
Have a few themed guild halls in the open world maps in places you can’t reach. Maybe a mountain fortress high in the mountains of Lornars Pass or an Airship flying overhead, or a small tree guild hall just outside of Caledon.
The key would be tasteful representations and not massive overcrowding.
If we have customized guild halls, then maybe have a contest. Those who win get to have their guild hall used as a representation in a city.
Chapell.1346
Putting a bulletin board in front of the gate or something,where i can apply to the said guild/owner/leader (instead of going to some guildengine.net)
Ohoni.6057
A solution in which there are multiple Hall plots per zone, and you can pick one and build on it. On your own plot, you would always see your own Hall, but on any other plots (or when other players look at yours), they would see a guild hall selected at random from the various ones assigned to that slot
Galen Grey.4709
You’d need some way to have players visit each guilds instance by having incentives for people to visit other guild’s GH and a system that allows you to quickly list and choose which guild halls you want to visit.
Luna.8691
Use NPCs that pop up menus to search for guilds’ names and enter (teleport) into their Guild Hall Instances. You can reuse the code and interface from Black Lion Trading Post.
You can have airships hovering over cities that transport players to Instanced Guild Halls. Ownership of these airships are on a weekly bidding system based on gold. These can serve as a gold sink.
Jaken.6801
Placeholders can be used easier for outside display
Conski Deshan.2057
Large scale PvE events such as sieges are still possible they’ll just be restricted to guild members which is fine too would have to scale very well
SkyShroud.2865
It is possible to create a guild halls district instance where guild halls are located.
CureForLiving.5360
This is probably where the Guild Hall Zones come into play again, given areas dedicated to Guild Halls makes it possible for players to explore these areas.
Prophet.6257
Just like Guild bounties, the zone missions could spawn in the zone or be activated by the Guild’s leadership.
Retro.6831
(Depopulation) Limit the number of amenities available within guild halls so players have to leave them for some things.

Note : I only list ideas once. Sorry for this
If you feel cheated/ignored, MP me so we can get things sorted.

Page X is over.

Page X-XI-XII :

New post by Jon :
Note : this time, I am quoting the posts responding explicitely to Jon’s questions. Other posts will be traded in future posts
Again, if you feel cheated, feel free to PM me.

Jon: On the editing topic I’ve seen a few things listed:

• NPCs
• fixed placement
• grid placement
• free form placement
• upgrading placed things

Assuming everything has a cost:
Some questions with the first answer being an example proposed by jon:
Q: what kind of thing would you be ok with static placement?
A: a giant stone carving of Colin.
Conski Deshan.2057
A: Banners/flags/doors/windows,staircases only make sense in certain locations (but please do make a freestanding banner too).
MakubeC.3026
A: The building structure (Gardens, pools, arena, doors, windows, Asura portals, maybe even pictures on the walls and furniture).
krosis.7598
A: NPCs and crafting stations should be in static locations in a given room.
Torsailr.8456
A: Layouts should be relatively static. They should only change if there’s a system for add on rooms and that would literally just adding the room and not changing the rest of the guild hall. (eg. alcoves, dais, windows, doors…)
Prophet.6257
A: Doors, windows, flooring, roofing, etc. Have the basic shape of the structure static
Tobias Trueflight.8350
A: To prevent disastrous errors of building, doors and walls. Let rooms be a static size/structure or be fixed to always line up in a fashion which will work.

Q: What kind of things do you think work fine with grid placement?
A: A theatre where my guild can roleplay how angry we are with the guild hall system in game.
Conski Deshan.2057
A: The overall guild hall , if we’re doing it in a select from several prefab rooms/corridors,gardens sort of thing.
MakubeC.3026
A: Harvesting nodes maybe?
krosis.7598
A:Pie in the sky, actual rooms and exterior elements (parapets, etc). This might not be possible if you do an amazing internal/external jumping puzzle (pleeeeeease), but saying “let’s put stairs leading to a viewing tower on the left!” would be super cool
Torsailr.8456
A: Anything fixed would probably work better with a grid placement.
Prophet.6257
A: Paintings, statues, furniture, etc
Tobias Trueflight.8350
A: Large furniture such as tables, or statues, equipment.
Baltzenger.2467
A: Grid based placement works well when making rooms and setting up the space inside of the Guild Hall

Q: What stuff would you want to have free placement?
A: Statue of Chris Whiteside
Conski Deshan.2057
A: wall and room decorations, Defensive placements can use the WvW method without an expiry timer. Some functional/minigame items may have to be grid placement to prevent them from breaking.
MakubeC.3026
Statues that reflect guild achivements, GvG trophies and other trophies, NPCs, guild members info banners or statues or whatever we use for that, different bundles.
krosis.7598
A: General furniture. Tables, chairs, wall banners, statues. Things that are solely cosmetic.
Torsailr.8456
A: Stuff like : – Decorative banners – statues – “art work” – chairs – couches – NPCs
Prophet.6257
A: All NPCs
Tobias Trueflight.8350
A: NPCs, smaller furnishings/decorations such as chairs, pedestals, crates, et cetera.
Baltzenger.2467
furniture and such, work better with free placement

Page XI : I am back to previous posts format. Here you will find new ideas that have not be proposed before and that did not fit in Jon’s discussions

Edgar Doiron.2804
Create a new guild research to unlock a plot of land (map). Which opens up a whole new series of guild tree research specifically for that map
More details here : https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/CDI-Guilds-Guild-Halls/4463515

DiogoSilva.7089
GH airships allow members from different guilds to chat with each other with /say

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046
The npc or warp/portal to the guildhall, could have a animation according to the level of the guildhall
creating an instanced “open world” pvp and pve map
PvE GH is Upgradable/buildable, home/guildhall represented in an open world server based instanced map.
PvP GH is open world pvp associated with the guildhall and server and the GH is represented on the map.

Groonz.7825
Allow GvG to fight over the land i.e Guild A is bored of X and wants to move to Y, they challenge Guild B for their land.
suggest having guild halls in cities which are neutral and any guild can start from there. It’s only outside of cities/towns where guild can claim areas for guild halls against one another.

ShadowDragoonFTW.3418
having a map zone per guild airship and having other players passing through the map
regulating who would be able to access the guild and who wouldn’t on the open world server, would both be difficult to manage

krosis.7598
Guild airship could be attached to maps. The guild attaching (and whoever they invite) gets the bonus of reaching an unusual NPC or shortcutting a jumping puzzle, the map can get benefits like speed buff, or a coin buff

Auck.3076
GH should be airbases with layers. Guilds fight through GvG for the control of the layers Controlling a specific layer brings specific bonuses.

Frostfang.5109
Make all guildies visible on the map (toggable). They could be yellow dots. Note: this belongs to the QoL thread.

Iason Evan.3806
One unlikely but really cool possibility, is having your actual guild airships participate in downing a dragon
GA have parachutes or drop pods: you load into the map at a height and impact without fall damage / with some directional control

Marcus Greythorne.6843
GA features many problems:
No wide open areas but tight spaces (which would be bad when thinking about GW2’s current camera-problems).
Race specific Sylvari and airships don’t go well together. Not every race is tech-themed.

Varezenem.2813
Vigil keep for Example on how special guild halls could work:
Visible in open world, has exclusive access instanced area and is an open-world plazza.

Torsailr.8456
Possibility to have our screenshorts displayed in the hall
Chef can create paintings

Gulesave.5073
Make sure you introduce the GH with living story or at least, use the lore to introduce them

Devata.6589
Allow guilds to summon world bosses to their map using the system developed for Teq/Wurm/Karka. Expand the system for all world bosses

daft inquisitor.1605
GA battles: It could be kind of like Puzzle Pirates where everyone contributes to the fight.

I think page XI is now fully covered. So many propositions.

Page XII, general listing of new ideas that did not belong to any previous discussion.

Twinny.9304
GH have a wall in the middle with readable plaques of the guilds u have GvG’s in your GH and the results of that fight

daft inquisitor.1605
Be able to wave to other players (from the ground/nearby cliff) if they’re standing on the deck of the ship.

Devata.6589
make dynamic events in that sky-map that contains GA

Torsailr.8456
Airship to airship battle is better with jetpacks

A lot of discussion and examples between devata, torsailr, daft and many others. I suggest reading the entire page for lots of elaboration on the sky map and airship visibility in open world.

Page XIII

Baltzenger.2467
Summed up a good chunk of the discussion up to page XIII here : https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/CDI-Guilds-Guild-Halls/4466306
If trying to get more propositions, look below.

scerevisiae.1972
guild halls should be implemented as an enhancement to WVW, by expanding upon & reworking existing WVW objectives and structures
areas like the skritt cave, centaur camp could/should become additional player mini-fortresses
bring WVW back to life than by creating upgradeable, guild-claimable structures within and around existing WVW towers & keeps

Iason Evan.3806
Any item you can get as a drop can be used to decorate the GH
Dungeon and Fractal Loot Tables completely upgraded and updated with decorating items
A statue of Evon Gnashblade and tomato baskets full of fresh ripe tomatoes, hand picked for the sole purpose of hurling at the statue

Prophet.6257
Guild Halls upkeep be determined by some PvE dynamic events in a Guild Zone
So instead of a tax or cost associated with it, it is “payed for” by playing the content.
have your Guild Hall over run by who ever the local enemy is and your guild has to retake the hall in order to do more upgrades and keep guild services active

Donari.5237
To preserve the GH in the event of leadership changes or mistaken disbandings
If the GM leaves, someone else (preferably from the next rank level) should receive control, and that someone should be one that’s repped the guild recently

Devata.6589
The idea of airship can extend to Wizards Tower and the Zephyr Sanctum

Marcus Greythorne.6843
When in your personal instance in a guild hall, your Alts will run around as NPCs
The alts can be training dummies or used as GW1 mercenaries only for Living World instances by other players in the guild.
The alts can also like as crafting stations without the requirements from other players to level up.

VodCom.6924 (Jeez! I was 13 pages late in the discussion)
Guild halls should be acquired by three different methods, one in the mist war, one in PvE and one in sPvP
Focussed guilds should not be disadvantaged when trying to acquire a guild hall.

And That’s it for page XIII
The discussion is getting more narrow and people are either taking sides or proposing very detailed things for GH.
Orpheal will probably get this sorted at the end of the week here : https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Guild-CDI-The-Complete-Summary-Edition/4457849

This post will try to sum up the discussion following this post:

By inherently adding Guild Halls to a game that becomes a core piece of guilds where it not only makes the system more integrated and potentially more interesting through how these pieces of systems interact, but also is likely to make things more clear by physically representing what is happening to players.

• What makes you think Guild Halls are difficult to acquire?
• Try to brainstorm ways in which Guild Hall acquisition could be fun.
• Think about some rewards a physical Guild Hall might give you that couldn’t be done without it and how the ability to give those rewards could create a version of an improvement to a system that previously was considered impossible and is now instead very simple, clear, and compelling?

1) What makes you think Guild Halls are difficult to acquire?
Tobias Trueflight.8350
I think the assumption is going to be “guild halls are limited by cost or number” until otherwise stated to be not the case.
There isn’t a way to do any of this which is going to get a 100% approval rating, no matter what you read here in the forums.
Ohoni.6057
If you’re going to just hand out guild halls with minimal effort then that would be great

2) Try to brainstorm ways in which Guild Hall acquisition could be fun.
Tobias Trueflight.8350
Simply buy it with money, like a land grant? “Promotes gold farming, and Gem sales.”
Purchase through Guild Upgrades with Influence or Merits? “Bigger guilds have an advantage with more Influence gain, more Merits to burn, etc.”
Require doing something a la quest or Event? “Required gating through un-fun stuff.”
Ohoni.6057
I suppose you could have different lockouts based on the size of the hall made available, a solo guild wouldn’t need a massive castle, and could have a solo-based quest to unlock it, while a massive guild would want a massive castle, and could require an epic campaign across Tyria to unlock it
CureForLiving.5360
Guild Halls should be divided into classes or qualities. Basic Guild Halls should be free (low barrier to entry) but higher quality guild halls (more space, more benefits etc.) should be more difficult to acquire and have some sort of upkeep.

3)Think about some rewards a physical Guild Hall might give you that couldn’t be done without it and how the ability to give those rewards could create a version of an improvement to a system that previously was considered impossible and is now instead very simple, clear, and compelling?
Ohoni.6057
All functions a hall can provide can technically be achieved in the open world, and generally should be. The benefit of the guild hall is more an RP thing, you’d have a unique space that you could hopefully make reflect the flavor of your guild
CureForLiving.5360
Guild Members can get a small permanent boon in the areas there Guild Hall is located.

Page XIV: other ideas

Halcyon.5340
The Guild Hall should contain a map of the whereabouts of all Guild Members and the events that they are currently doing
+ In addition, Guild Leaders can put markers on this map, and these markers will appear in every Guild Member’s personal world map+

Radical Antics.2740
Tie the progression of the size of the GH with the level of guild architecture upgrade unlocked
Rework the guild upgrades pannel to make the system viable.
Guild NPCs and functionnalities have tiers that are unlocked by upgrading architecture

Retro.6831
On the topic of “What current aspects of guilds would you change to integrate them more with guild halls?”
There are buffs that aren’t run because they aren’t useful. Those could be transformed as something that has to be built and integrated as permanent buffs tied to a GH
When a Guild Banner has finished building, add a copy of it that remains in the guild hall for a few hours
Bounty and trek seem difficult to implement, but it’s certainly possible that a few guild challenges could be developed that take place entirely within the guild hall.
The “Research” unlocks do not actually unlock anything themselves; they just increase your level in a given type (Architecture, etc.). This would be a prime place to drop in free Guild Hall upgrades

Sarrs.4831
On the same topic as above:
Your guild instance map is seperated into four sections: Politics, economics, art of war and architecture. As you upgrade these things through the I-VI lines, the sections will get larger.
Also a few upgrades could have added functionality, or new upgrades that come out of them. For example, you can upgrade your Guild Workshop to have crafting tables. #JonPeters_approves

DDCarvalho.2071
By some kind of interface, the officers could choose to (temporarily) landlock their island to a mini-map.
A mini-map is also a floating island, but it has no owner.
Up to 3/4 guilds could land-lock to the same mini-map.
And guilds would have a way of choosing to share the same mini-map, so they could play together, or fight against each other.

MithranArkanere.8957
Guild Fractals: Guilds can purchase tickets for a specific fractal and have special challenges while doing the fractal
Allow guilds to travel through empty fractals for recon.
in other words it is a private guild raid
Bring back the reputation system in Faction to GW2 and allow guilds to claim all outposts

Page XV other ideas

Gwenryth.9450
Any costs for Guild Hall related things scaled by members
Note: let the scaling costs controversy begin

Chun.1970
Portal hub in GH to ease access to locations such as Sparkfly, Bloodtide etc…

SlateSloan.3654
Bring back the possibility to let item drop on the floor like in GW1. Give items on the floor a 3D model
Allows possibilities to further decorate the hall.

Marcus Greythorne.6843
On the topic of “What current aspects of guilds would you change to integrate them more with guild halls?”
Scale the cosst based only on active guild members. Active members are those who played more than X min in the past week.
Alternative take:
80% of the guild members have to contribute a little for every project that is under construction.

CureForLiving.5360
On the topic of “Guild crafting”
Guild members can contribute to Guild Crafting by having a Guild Bank with Guild Supplies, which can then be used to craft guild items (such as decorations or consumables etc.). Merit and influence could be used as a means of unlocking recipes.

Iason Evan.3806
the most important thing for me is that guild halls won’t introduce content which is ONLY available for guilds
Eg. A guild-raid dungeon which can be entirely done by guilds (with the guild-related rewards) as well as the same dungeon open for pugs as well

DiogoSilva.7089
More details on guild crafting
Each profession produces special decorations for the GH : Wooden furniture (huntsman); Leather carpets (leatherworker) etc

Alethia.3597
Solve the dilemma raised in GW1 of picking an aesthetic you like to live with vs a hall you want to defend
Split area guild halls for general use and GvG. We customize the living area and the GvG part does not change.

zerorogue.9410
Ideas on building the GH
In order to build a guild hall a guild must have an architecture upgrade, a special Guild Sigil item and ressources.
How to get the Guild Sigil
Random drop from : team arena, stonemist capture chest, guild puzzles.
Guild Store: Guilds can buy and sell items outside the BLT

DDCarvalho.2071
Guild Photographer: Once bought/researched, a “photography room” would be added to the hall, and in it, the guild members could pay a fee to take photos of their characters
These photos could be saved as .PNGs without a background, facilitating montages using the characters

Perlemu.8219 Who definitely did not read the suggested post format
Guild officiers can place the portal/entrance to the GH anywhere in the open world
Allow to mix ornaments and an general themed GH
Eg. We should be able to put an Asuran lab in a Human’s styled house or a leafy garden lost in a Charr complex

Elrey.5472
General themes for GH could also include elder dragons and natural “raw” landscapes

Page XV is now done.

The topic of “the larger the guild, the higher the costs of upgrades” is very controversial. Some people do want to keep the building of a guild hall chellenging for every type and size of guild, while other argue that different guilds paying different prices for the same thing/upgrade is unfair.

Could we find a way to reconcile both points of view ?

Page XVI (one day, XVI will be a final fantasy number)

Serophous.9085
There can be a room for seige weaponry with the siege weapons against the walls or on the floor, being tinkered by the vendor
GH progression is unlocked with achievements similar to living world S2 achiev tailored for groups

CureForLiving.5360
Time-gating to make sure large and small guilds are both enjoying building the GH.
It would be an effective solution, although probably not perceived that way by the players

Prophet.6257
Introduce along with GH/guild zones : Guild Farms and Personalized Guild Enemies

Ohoni.6057
Kill two birds with one stone, by resetting the trait system back to how it used to be and shifting the current trait unlock over to unlocking Hall decorations

Conski Deshan.2057
Unlocking any kind of GH progression with gold threatens the challenging nature of building the GH, because of the actual structure of GW2’s economy

HHR LostProphet.4801
Asked a very relevant question in my opinion
Guilds can hold up to 500 players. Normal maps can hold up to 100 – 150 (?) players.
How do you want to ensure that players don’t feel separated from each other, can you raise the player-cap for Guild Halls?

Titanium Argentum.1427
GH defense as a mini game instead of an open-world event
More details about this here : https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/CDI-Guilds-Guild-Halls/4468722

JonPeters
On the topic of cost scaling:
I think one solution to the scaling problems is to create different aspects that work on different scales.
For example some aspects can be time gated and therefore don’t favor any size guild. Some can be based on straight up farming which favor larger guilds, and some could be driven by activity and favor guilds with active members.
Think of it like the 3 branches of government, and the aspects within that.

I think in that way the question that comes to mind is what parts of Guild Halls would you want to have work in what different ways so that we can reward big guilds for those areas but not punish small guilds for the things they really want…

Page XVI is now done. I think I might have missed something. If you see something missing, make sure you inform me with a PM.

Page XVII :

This one is tough to sum up. Instead of the regular listing I’ll try something new.

It is mostly a lengthy discussion about the ability of small guilds to have GH and the emerging consensus that GH
should not be locked behind a conditions like “the guild must have X nb of members to have a GH”

Contributors agreed that a hybrid system that requires both merits, influence and achevements is the
best for GH upgrading and/or unlocking. Quoting one among many :

Serophous.9085
Guild achievements are similar to LW S2 achiev but linked with guild puzzles and guild challenges mission
These achievements can unlock customization to the GH.

Chris agreed with this consensus on page XVIII
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/CDI-Guilds-Guild-Halls/4469903
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/CDI-Guilds-Guild-Halls/4469889

He also provided with a nice transition to the next dev discussion :

Guild hall acquisition should go something like this:

Reach 20 players and you unlock the ability to start work on the guild hall. Once started players have to gather a combined total of each tier of wood (For example: 100,000 Soft wood logs) and obviously contribute gold towards the workers.

Extra extensions would have different costs. The mining area would obviously cost lots of ores (80,000 gold, 100,000 silver, 140,000 copper etc.) The garden would cost plants. Maybe chuck in some extra materials needed to spice it up a little like maybe in the garden make 500 foxfire clusters to help irrigation or something interesting.

Players should not be able to access all the new areas immediately, they should be able to unlock them by doing things inside the existing area first. Achievements should basically be an introduction to the guild; using the mission board, upcoming event schedule, entering the guild common room etc. We don’t want this to just become some daily farming area, it’s a place to socialize.

ObsidianSaint.1079:

Guild hall acquisition should go something like this:

Reach 20 players and you unlock the ability to start work on the guild hall. Once started players have to gather a combined total of each tier of wood (For example: 100,000 Soft wood logs) and obviously contribute gold towards the workers.

Extra extensions would have different costs. The mining area would obviously cost lots of ores (80,000 gold, 100,000 silver, 140,000 copper etc.) The garden would cost plants. Maybe chuck in some extra materials needed to spice it up a little like maybe in the garden make 500 foxfire clusters to help irrigation or something interesting.

Players should not be able to access all the new areas immediately, they should be able to unlock them by doing things inside the existing area first. Achievements should basically be an introduction to the guild; using the mission board, upcoming event schedule, entering the guild common room etc. We don’t want this to just become some daily farming area, it’s a place to socialize.

You might want to move this over to the Guild Hall CDI rather than posting here in the summary thread. =)

Chris Whiteside.6102:

I also hope that Drak can do an excel vote doc when we get to the top 3 etc.

chris

When do you expect this step of the CDI to begin ?

Chris :
Initial thoughts are that members of the Alliance would each get an instance of the shared guild hall. And yes I am aware I said instance. This is purely because I am a fan of instance over open world (-:
Note we have come up with two valid options that can also be part of the design.

1: Small Guilds aren’t Excluded.
2: Alliances can create a shared Guild Hall.

Sligh.2789
Guild Halls and Alliances are not intertwined, neither should they be
Allowing Guilds to ally to complete guild missions, and to employ legions necessary for World event spawns is needed to avoid the simple monopoly enjoyed by large guilds over these types of events
Any Guild Hall should be for one guild only
Instanced meeting halls or better yet, visitation rights, ala GW1, are right on point.

Jacobbs.9468
Guild Halls should be guild instanced, with the option of creating an inter-alliance meeting area

Khisanth.2948
On the topic of : What happens when an alliance breaks?
Instead of merging and splitting instances how about just keeping the plots separate. When a guild joins another they can decide how their plots would link up. When a guild leaves an alliance they keep whatever is built on their plot.

Wolfey.3407
Just update the GW1 system to be compliant with GW2
Forming an Alliance:
– Leader of the alliance gold has to buy a permit in LA for X-ammt of gold or w.e.
– Invites to other guilds cost X-ammt of gold or w.e. if they decline the cash the money is returned back to the inviter.

Zenty.3596
I think that the “Alliance Guild Hall” should be more of a title that
circulates between the guilds

CureForLiving.5360
Guilds for the most parts function separately, they purchase their own upgrade, blue-prints etc which can then be shared in the alliance hall

Propositions by various contributors, spread all over pages and dutifully regrouped.

Conski’s proposal :
On Categories for upgrades ,I’d see it breaking down something like this: (I may have what you meant by this wrong?)
Structures:
-Towers -halls -corridors -entry halls -Misc rooms
Defenses: (could be just graphical)
-Trebs -Cannons -Hot oil -Misc
Interior:
-Seating -Tables/cabinets -Rugs/banners/flags -Wallpapers/wall -statues/monuments -Misc
Exterior (wouldn’t actually limit it to placement outside as I’d like water features in the command room)
-Fountains -Trees -plants -training grounds -Livestock -Misc
NPCS
-Functional -Decorative -Alts
Glory or Rare category (this section would have limited placement (i.e once per guild hall or 10 per guild hall) basically the more prestige and high end stuff.
Limited Section for limited items i.e reward from once off events or competitions like a new Christmas tree each year.

Jon’s alternative :

•WvW
•PvP
•Guild Missions
•Dungeons

This would tie the upgrades more to game mode than to the current arbitrary categories.

Diogo’s take:

I propose the following:
1.Architecture : The upgrades that most directly affect the guild structure and the guild hall directly.
2.World Presence : Enhances the guild’s presence within the world, and its interaction with the playerbase.
3.Adventuring : General PvE content here. Buffs, and anything related to dungeons, fractals, world events
4.Competition : upgrades linked to PvP, WvW and GvG

More details here : https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/CDI-Guilds-Guild-Halls/4470298

Thorfinnr’s proposition:
Architechture – Guild Hall Construction Worker(cuts time on Guild Hall Upgrades)

Art of War – Guild Hall Combat Trainer(allows for 1 v1 Sparring within the GH and adds in Sparring Dummies in a “Training Area” that is included in the construction of the GH)

Simple Upgrades EX. Guild Armorer – Straight Influence Cost

Tobias Trueflight’s idea:
I think the current categories are fine, but need to be better defined and less haphazard.

Architecture – Now relevant to guild hall upgrades, Guild Stash and such now being reflected in the building.

Art of War – WvW and PvP bonuses

Economy – Bconvenience features move here, as well as generalized buffs which reduce costs

Politics – Guild representation such as emblems, special weapons and armor (which already exist)

Missions – Separate research tree for Guild Missions (as should have been done first…)

Rambodacious.7495
two posts with lots of detailed ideas: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/CDI-Guilds-Guild-Halls/4470702

Syndrilious.9632
Guild Upgrades – We all build them. They need to have a physical impact on our guild maps. So we divide them into several categories.
•Architecture – Allows structures to be added to the zones. These objects require resources and time to build.
•Politics – This is where PvP and Wvw bonuses are, as well as specific building functions. Crafting stations, repair stations, etc all fall under this category.
•Dungeoneering – Grants bonuses to certain dungeons, for instance, leveling a research under this category for AC can offer small increases to drop rates within the dungeons for guild members (with time gate).
•Beastiary – This entry is similar to the slayer achievement line. This tracks the slayer achievements of all members.

Page XVIII : Other ideas

DiogoSilva.7089
I just want to add in that “GvG” doesn’t even needs to be exclusive to guilds: it could simply be a new PvP mode with a “guild queue”

LanfearShadowflame.3189
Open world guild halls (at least to me) would be much closer to how the lodges function in Hoelbrak
Note : Even though Lanfear used this as a counterpoint to the OW-GH implementation, his proposition is still valid.

Wolfey.3407
Allow to build the GH EITHER by spending influence and merits or by giving crafting materials
Upgrade of the GH : Asuran Orchestra
An orchestra made up of asura will play the multiple songs

Page XVIII is over. It is difficult not to get lost when you see 3 discussions at the same time on different pages.

Page XIX :

Titanium Argentum.1427
One new feature: Guild Sponsor
One Big guild can transfer influence or resources to a Small Guild in their alliance, to help them build their Guild Hall. The Small guild have help, and the Big Guild have Hero points.

Zietlogik.6208
Look at how GH are handled in Warframe
http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Clan_Dojo

Marcus Greythorne.6843
give every player something to specialize in so that this player would feel special in a guild while he unlocks stuff for himself (prestige-items) as well as for the whole group (useful items)
(e.g. the dungeon-specialists would unlock dungeon portals for their guild, but only on higher level tiers in their sub-paths)

Conski Deshan.2057
Asked a lot of relevant questions that need to be answered
-What stuff is there going to be at the high end?
-What items/structures/skins do you see for advanced play and top guilds?
-How should we determine what play is the skilled play and therefore worthy of extra rewards?
-How do you show that your guild and guild hall is the best darn guild there is?
-And the problem that I have difficulty answering: How do you gate the PvP and WvW unlocks as currently there’s no way to distinguish the good from the bad?

I think that the last 8 pages are more additional reflexions an detailed propositions of what has been proposed before.

Page XX:

Drewan.5681
I would love if I could have a nice sturdy norn lodge in the mountains

Marcus Greythorne.6843
Introduction of the “expeditions-category”
An adventurer npc in your guild hall launches “expeditions” every fifteen minutes.
He just spawns a portal to a random event-location in Tyria. This might be a bigger event chain,
a meta-event chain but also a jumping puzzle.
The idea is to complete the event/puzzle as a group with a debuff (no portals/no revive/limited time etc…)
The category features a progression mechanism :
•you start with portals to smaller events / lower level areas
•as you progress you unlock a bigger variety of destinations
•as you progress you unlock buffs which are active for the guild in the destination-areas (like +200% magicfind, enemies hit harder but drop more gold, hardmode scaling (a second portal next to the normal portal which is red)

Lishtenbird.2814
Collective ideas difficul to sum up Full post here: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/CDI-Guilds-Guild-Halls/4471178
The post is about GH as mists islands with special functionnalities

Illuminerdi.9153
Fleshing out the idea of Guild cities
Create a guild story like the living story
Create a “Guild Story” sort of like the Living World story content where a guild has a storyline that they play through together
PvE Guild Storylines culminating in a large “world boss” style event that takes 20-50 players working together and has a grand epic feel

munkiman.3068
Visual representation of player of the week/month assignment in the GH

Blaeys.3102
Portals to “living quarters” (player specific housing areas for members) in the GH

kyubi.3620
Listed more possible themes for the GH
Including tengu, HoH, droknar/deldrimor before great dwarf rite etc…

Tryxtr.6295
Alliance GH is dangerous because of divorces between guilds
Building bridges between GH of the same alliance should be possible

Iason Evan.3806
Guild Aquariums and Submarine Guild Halls
(Personnal note : holy s***, why nobody thought about this before?!)

discussion about influence and merits and how they affect guild progression:

VodCom.6924 & Grevender.9235 & Conski Deshan.2057 & Astralporing.1957
Influence is weak for GH progression since it can be purchased with gold
A revamp is necessary. Influence should be used to measure “something” and the “something” should not be purchaseable with gold.
There should be ways to earn merits in WvW and sPvP
Replace the influence by a pool of gold everyone can contribute to but nobody can withdraw money from
Convert the existing influence to gold in the pool.
Another flaw was putting the easier missions (treks, rushes) behind a merit wall that can be passed only with a harder mission (bounties)

Page XX is done. The next post will be about some more detailed brainstorming following a post by the one and only Jon:

Jon posted:

•Someone suggested that the upgrades be tied to buildings which I think has some very clear potential.
•People have suggested a few ways to break those upgrades down but none too specific.
•We need to discuss how the building system would incorporate old upgrades but also provide new ones.
•What kind of new upgrades would be possible because of the system turning into buildings?
•What changes to influence and guild progression should happen to make it more intuitive if we went with buildings?
•How do we build customization into this upgrade system where there currently is none?

I’d love to see people just blue sky take a crack and fleshing out some of these ideas and then I would be happy to summarize which ones I think gel well together and try to combine them into a more cohesive design that we could then begin discussing the pros and cons of.

LanfearShadowflame.3189
Upgrades being tied to buildings
I’m assuming this would mean something along the lines of building say a ‘Barracks’ and hiring/recruiting an npc to work there and this is where you would go to ‘purchase’ or ‘order’ your Art of War upgrades.
As you upgrade that specific line, the building itself upgrades and becomes larger, more detailed.

munkiman.3068
Asked for more clarifications:
Are you thinking how current and/or future upgrades can be represented in virtual space, as visual representations and mechanism that we can interact with that trigger and upgrade?

Conski Deshan.2057
how the building system would incorporate old upgrades but also provide new ones?
-Upgrades that make sense appear on the building (a deep cave under your vault if you have the deep cave. etc, your guilds banners/logo once that’s researched).
-A usable version of each banner appears after it is built at least once. Usable versions of the siege could be added too just for fun.
-not a fan of this one but your building could get fancier each tier so a t6 would be all shiny and complex while a tier 1 is pretty basic.

What kind of new upgrades would be possible because of the system turning into buildings?
-The plethora of guildhall related improvements -fancier windows, -second story -Banners now place-able on the guild hall -NPC guards for that building (visual)
-A functional unlock for within that building (A WvW Tornement mechant under the barracks etc…)

What changes to progression to make it more intuitive if we went with buildings ?
-You could no longer use influence by itself as the base currency as it would completely unbalance rewards away from groups of skilled players towards gold.
-You would need to rework tiers and need a solid unskipable gate for higher tiers (functional stuff would be at low tiers).
Lets say building visuals is tied with tier?, then you need something that ensures only a small portion of the guilds have the top tier and ideally not a grind so that it’s a reward not an expectation.

How do we build customization into this upgrade system where there currently is none?
We could split it 50/50 , Unlocking upgrades from the building unlocks new placement options (can now place banners, can now place functional items, can now have a maximum of 10 npc’s in the building).

Serophous.9085
Everything would start from the Architecture to unlock the next three categories
For example, building the Armor and weapon vendors rooms unlocks the Art of War category. You could then have certain prerequisits for other rooms, such as having to build a seige vendor room before access to wvw buffs (or vice versa). As for the boosts, they themselves should be tied to either one vendor, or still accessible as they are now by guild interface, just unlocked once the proper room is built.

Palador.2170
Nobody should feel forced into making a guild hall to get a non-hall upgrade
. Simple and straight forward is important
Other than a few minor links (guild banners, guild merchants, and such), the two systems should not rely on each other. New upgrades to guilds that do not physically manifest as part of the guild hall should not be part of the guild hall system.

NeedMoreDinosaur.4250
I feel the way guild upgrades are currently in place there is place for some instances of interaction between them but there is also plenty of room for upgrades to be a completely separate thing. I think the majority of buildings should be attached to a build tree that would allow for maximum customization without the technical dilemmas.
Current upgrades most certainly certainly tie in.

At some point in the CDI thread, this appeared :

Donari.5237:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Donari.5237:

I think Lanfear’s question is what happens if the guild you are repping swaps alliances and no longer is in the alliance that made the hall — how do you handle man-hour investment in an alliance hall if for reasons fair or foul you need to go separate ways?

Yes, this is precisely what I was asking. I know in GW1, my guild was in several different alliances over the multitude of years that I played. Sometimes alliances just don’t work out for a variety of reasons and guilds go their separate ways.

What happens in such a case, when the guilds split, to all the effort that was put into these ‘shared’ halls. The man hours, the funds, etc. When they join another alliance that has it’s own shared hall already, do they now have their hall, the old shared hall, and then the shared hall for the new alliance as well? This could get cumbersome. Do they lose the old shared hall instead and thus all the effort put into it? That could really tick some people off. Or do shared halls simply no longer exist if the alliance does not exist? Could this not be a double edged sword – ie, as much deterant as incentive to build such an item?

Yeah this is a real problem. This could completely preclude Alliance functionality on our Guild Halls discussion. Can we have some ideas to beat this problem please and see if we can solve it?

Chris

And below is the discussion that followed.

timmyf.1490
When you form an Alliance, the Main Hall is free and selectable. Guild Halls are “rooms” that attach to the Main Hall.
Unallied guilds can choose their own Main Hall.

munkiman.3068
This leads me to think of a central hub on a 5 spoke cog (assuming 5 maximum guilds in an alliance).

Yalora Istairiea.6287
building an Alliance Hall is done by upgrading your Guild Hall
Utilizing the same mechanics as the Tiered Tree structure, as you put more features into your Guild Hall, it would add functionality to the Alliance Hall.

Aeolus.3615
if one guild drops from the alliance, anything they have shared would vanish

Jalefor.5362
Massive multi post here: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/CDI-Guilds-Guild-Halls/4472248

daft inquisitor.1605
Let’s say we have Guild A and Guild B in an alliance. Guild B drops out of the alliance. Guild A and Guild B then each get an exact copy of the Alliance Hall they had. Guild B then decides to ally with Group C, and they use the same Alliance Hall that A&B had together

Palador.2170
Create a “Guild Commons” where members of an alliance can gather, mingle, and make use of shared resources developed for the commons
The guild commons area will be a fairly open area where various objects and NPCs can appear, depending on the guilds connected to the commons. Around the edge of the commons, each guild hall
(or a portal to that hall, which may be more practical) can be located, with their banners showing.

Alethia.3597
Part of the issue here with discussing guild halls and alliances together is not knowing how alliances are going to be working
More details here (with pictures!) : https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/CDI-Guilds-Guild-Halls/4472417

munkiman.3068
Une image vaut mieux qu’un long discours (google translate is your friend)
See here : https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/CDI-Guilds-Guild-Halls/4472434

Baltzenger.2467
Here are several options that would solve this situation:
1.- Alliance Halls customization is restricted to rental
2.- Alliance Hall is a separated tree on the Guild Hall progression system
3.- Rooms on Guild Halls could be demolished for resources

Astralporing.1957
not sure if Guild Alliances even need a separate progression system
Belonging to a Guild Alliance might offer for every guild the advantages of guild upgrades belonging to other guilds in the alliance. The guilds would be free, of course, to pursue those upgrades on their own, just in case.
And of course it doesn’t need to cover all possible upgrades

TBC

Page XXI – Other ideas :

skullmount.1758
What happens when somebody switch between guilds while he is in the main hall
Personnal remark : how does the GH interact with the representation system.

Safari.3021
Instanced guild halls providing a staging area for guild missions

Donari.5237
About Guild beacons mechanics:
1) Skins, banners, communal boosts, banquets, dance rooms. The sorts of things we already have, but specific new ones made that come from having more invested in a guild hall.
2) Invitation booths/banners. Something a guild can deploy which a player can use to go see their guild hall.
3) Lots of entry points around lots of zones. Explorers can find the entry point and select which guild instance to enter.
4) Guild NPCs in the cities akin to heralds. A player chats with them and via a dialogue tree gets “gossip” on guilds of what s/he likes.
5) “Finishers.” that scales as the GH progresses

Page XXI is now done. That took longer than expected.

Page XXII – other ideas

Kai.6317
Create a new WvW map and put GH in it
Replace keeps with GH. Allow guilds to declare war between them. Guilds rewards are earned by capping camps and towers.

Jalefor.5362
Maintenance is acceptable because it is already present in the game
Consumable effects like the “+5% gold for kills for 24 hours” upgrade, effectively amount to be the same as a recurring maintenance cost of 3 merits and 300 influence per 24hrs for a permanent effect, but with a little more flexibility in when you choose to and choose not to “pay the bills”.
A completely inactive guild will eventually “turn off” their guild hall from the world, so only active guilds are seen

Brujeria.7536
GvG fights should be based in and around the guildhall you built
I’d love to be able to craft traps, siege weapons or mechanics, walls, npcs or ghostly defenders, this all on a balanced table (set amount of max traps, max npcs)

Tobias Trueflight.8350
Guild Library: A guild member can use a consumable item which will then ‘tag’ all enemies they kill for a short period of time
These enemies carry “lore tags” which can then be collected and collated into various books to read over which would tell more about these enemies.
The more entries you complete, the better your Library looks over time and the more respectful some visiting Priory scholars might be to you.
Guild Orrery: If you don’t know what this is, it’s an observatory with large moving parts and is supposed to be used to discern what exactly it may mean.
Think of the Lunar Fortunes of old Cantha, and crank it up.
Guild Shrine:
Depending on what motif you choose for your guild hall, you can get the shrine of the corresponding belief.
Guild Research Lab:
To help you work on those Trait Masteries you either don’t want to do, or can’t complete.

Page XXII is done. I may have missed a few posts regarding Jon’s sub discussion about guild upgrades. Make sure you poke me if you see something.

Page XXIII :

munkiman.3068
Unfortunately, each guild has it’s own what to do together thing
There are many focuses, some guilds love to focus on new players, just learning the game.
Some are strict and focus on WvW and military combat structure. Some focus strictly on PvP.

Conski Deshan.2057
Special Asuran gates/teleporter pads, that will teleport an entire squad (30-40 people) into a brand new copy of whatever PvE map they choose
It’s not guild locked but it does guarentree they all get into the location just before an event or such.
Intractable furniture would be a massive plus for GH
(e.g sitting on seats, bonus the poor people in the priory classroom finally learn how to sit)

ardasica.4531
What incentive is there to visiting other guilds’ halls other than gawking?
Recruitment. People are visual and being able to see what a guild has been able to do outside of what is stored in the guild bank could be a big deal.
How are a guilds’ accomplishments demonstrated in the hall, and how can that be interacted with?
Hall of Monuments held areas that displayed account/character achievements. That had less purpose since unless you ran in with a party, no one would see it. A guild takes pride in what they achieve so perhaps a portrait room that autofills in the portrait of each guild bounty completed
How can guild members interact with each other in ways they can’t do elsewhere?
They can have a guild party and invite guests. Run contests that involve only the guild.

Baltzenger.2467
We don’t want to define what alliances can and cannot do at this point, alliances have different terms depending on the context

Rambodacious.7495
Responding to both Chris and Jon in this post: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/CDI-Guilds-Guild-Halls/4473080
Each upgrade can be obtained by three different ways. Each way is best suited for guilds with a specific size.
The thre ways are : group farm, gold and timegated representation.

DarkWasp.7291
Alliance – General huge plot of land
Guild – Hall with land plots dedicated to members
Player – Houses placed on that guild land

Serophous.9085
The Alliance hall would be for comestic stuff only, no bonuses, nothing, just make the place look pretty
When divorcing, you just lose the shinies, not the functionnal.

CureForLiving.5360:

Devata.6589:

All I am getting frustrated over is seeing the same ‘problems’ being put up while possible solution have been giving for them pages ago.

The structure of the thread (a linear progression of posts) isn’t idea for topic discussion. Something like a tree-structure would allow for separate threads or topic based discussion. However we have what we have.

So much truth here! If you could PM me with ideas to better follow sub discussions, that would be great.

Black Dragon.3784
picture frames
With picture frames maybe guild leaders can upload print screens of their guild, guild leader or special event which the guild enjoyed to place on the wall of their guild house for memory sake/ decorations

That’s it for page XXIII

Page XXIV

Surbrus.6942
Guild Hall fashion room
A room where people are free to change their looks without eating up their transmutation charges. Perhaps even give upgrades to allow for “free” hair style kit usage within this designated area as well.
You would actually have to spend the charges/hair style kit to keep the look outside this designated area.

Devata.6589
True, this game needs a barber

theguildless.1386
Guild finishers that appear when specific events are completed
eg. Champions/legendary mod, meta event, location captured in WvW and in PvP tournaments.

VodCom.6924
Integrate light control for the rooms of the GH

Page XXIV is now done. Only 4 left to go.

Page XXV
Lots of bickering about airships, what is an airship GH and skritts running in a wheel with a shiny dangling in front of them.

Rhansem.7305
one guild has to be put as owner of the alliance hall
One guild starts and alliance and is now the alliance leader. They then recruit other guilds to fill in the officer, elder member, member, and recruit positions. When building the alliance hall, it is the leader guild that queues the upgrades.

AlienMenace.7516
If Guild Halls were instances connected to real PvE zones, guilds could pick a Guild Hall near their favorite activities.
For instance, if a guild had a favorite dungeon they ran daily and there was a Guild Hall entrance site near that dungeon

Alcarin.9024
Regarding Alliance Hall
Someone talked about private instanced zone in PvE that can be claimed and accessible only by the guild that claimed it. I think that this functionality should be bound to Alliance, not guilds.

Sarrs.4831
SUPER FEAST for guilds
A feast that requires more food and last for 24h

Conski Deshan.2057
split GH upgrades and progression into two categories in a manner similar to collections: Basic and Rare.
By splitting it you solve a perception problem,
People will expect to unlock everything under basic and that can contain most functional upgrades.
Introduce some “Discipline” distinction
if you want to have all the options for a guildhall I expect you to have mastery of every form of gameplay.
Statue unlocks from killing Ascended versions of creatures + “Ascended Arena”
Something like this : https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/external?l=http%3A%2F%2Fffxiv.consolegameswiki.com%2Fwiki%2FThe_Minstrel%2527s_Ballad%3A_Ultima%2527s_Bane
Special Weather conditions as a Prestige unlock

krosis.7598
Push the idea of the dressing room further
The entire Guild instance allows totally unlocked (temporary) transmutations, allowing you to set a “guildie outfit” while you’re at home with your family. You can roleplay to your heart’s content inside the guild hall
QoL for RPers

Retro.6831
On Progression
A guild hall is essentially a set of modular template rooms.
In my mind, this is best accomplished by replacing the existing vertical structure (“Architecture II, III, IV, etc.”) & having a large number of modular ‘content packs’

krosis.7598
visual progression of the GH only with guild achievements
While the guild leader can ask their guild to focus on certain things, at the same time many elements will come naturally based on what the guild enjoys doing.
progression is room based (kitchen, trophy room, commons etc.) instead of being asset based
Instead of unlocking a specific furniture skin that can be placed anywhere in the GH, you get guild upgrades that have a physical representation in the GH.
Also proposition for new guild upgrades categories
link : https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/CDI-Guilds-Guild-Halls/page/25#post4475330

That’s it for XXV

Page XXVI

Brown Fang Thump.9482
Guild Identification System that integrates guild access, globally
All major cities in the game and a limited number of strategically selected explorable maps should include a “Guild Cryer” NPC that appears next to a billboard model which lists 5 guilds.
These 2 elements would always appear together: the Cryer to provide text information and direct access to a player’s represented guild, the billboard to provide in-game information that is up to date and usable for players seeking guilds or interested in guild versus guild competition.

Brown Fang Thump.9482
Guild Hall real estate and functionality elasticity system that adjusts as guild activity fluctuates
The size of these instances is initially based on the total achievement points of the guild’s founder. The potential size of a Guild Hall is elastic in the sense that it expands and contracts in direct proportion to its active membership.

VodCom.6924
Upgrade for the Guild Hall : subcontractor crafter
Allows rookies in the guild to refine their materials and get introduced to crafting without forcing them to level up their craft

Yalora Istairiea.6287
Make a Very Long-term Guild goal to allow a Guild to move their Guild Hall from an Instanced environment to an Open world existence

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046
Alliances upgrades
When you are in an alliance, the alliance will either:
-Ask for a weekly gold contribution to buy upgrades.
-Or players will join in events to earn upgrades.
-Or you can have a upgrade token system where tokens are earned or bought.

Either way effort has to be made/bought.

Serophous.9085
Made a video detailing his thoughts on the GH topic
Text summary here :
https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/169806/Video_Text.txt

Page XXVII – XXVIII

Zoso.8279
Suggested a possible rework of guild upgrades
More details in his post. The rework features a new upgrade category : Guild Hall that unlocks specific functionnalities in other categories.

Retro.6831
Made a meta-post summing up all his contributions in the thread
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/CDI-Guilds-Guild-Halls/4477326
Idea of guild commissions : These are special tasks that guild members can perform to pick up the coolest, most Prestigious furnishings.
An upvote functionnality : An “Upvote” system where players visit a guild hall and sign a guestbook has been suggested a few times already

Brown Fang Thump.9482
Guild leader should be the one who can choose who is the player of the month featured in the GH
Don’t use automated achievements or features for this kind of thing.

timmyf.1490
Does not share Brown fang opinion and proposes the opposite
Examples that might be cool:

• Statue for player who most recently account-bound a Legendary weapon
• Statue for player who entered Top 100 rank on PvP Leaderboard
• Statue for player who in past week finished 100% map completion

Khisanth.2948
Since someone will complain no matter what the dev do, the solution is to not have any progression at all
How “great” a guild hall is should be limited by the creativity of its owners not the size of its roster.

Brown Fang Thump.9482
Guild Cartography System
Establish new game mechanics to leverage current map in game to benefit guilds through the implementation of guild hall functions that address group dynamics and global mapping
Multi post with lots of details.

End of page XXVIII. From page XXIX on, this is the top 3 vote section.

Make sure you post your top 3 on the CDI. We want YOU to contribute to your favorite game

Monday will be the final summary by Chris and Tuesday the CDI Phase 3 will start.

As a final word, if you feel that…

• something is missing
• your post has been ignored despite featuring a new idea
• I do not describe your idea correctly

Send me a PM and we will work this out.