Guild Wars 2

So, the current Guild Hall upgrading structure is in dire need of a fix.

Premise of this argument:
If it can take 5 people to capture the guild hall, those same 5 should be able to competitively keep up with upgrading the guild hall as anyone else

We took the guild hall with 5 people, and between us have not only spent a fortune (almost 2k gold worth of resources) but we are seeing other guilds pushing through ahead of us. Why?

Because the structure is catered to be extremely easy and affordable for a massive guild yet extremely costly and almost PUNISHING for a small guild.

I’m not complaining about the need for it to be expensive (so that not everyone can get it super easily) however these upgrades are FAR too expensive for smaller guilds to handle.

Guild Wars, in it’s VERY NAME, takes pride in a game that allows people to utilize guilds, no matter the size of the guild or the quality of its members’ strengths. Up until this expansion, all guilds had pretty much the same ability (ours is a smaller guild, yet we were usually able to keep up with guild missions and all that). In WvW we could create zergs and claim towers and the only cost to that was the Honor that we got through our efforts in that very battlefield.

THE FIX:
It’s become increasingly clear that something needs to be different, what I propose is a system where the guild operates in the background of gameplay, even when nobody is there. Much like the Aetherium mining, the guild is gaining in resources and npcs even if nobody is online, however this operates at a cost of the players needing to be active, completing missions.
UPGRADING THE GUILD HALL SHOULD BE LIKE CAPTURING IT, DONE WITH MISSIONS THAT ANYWHERE FROM 5 TO 200 CAN BE PARTICIPATING IN
It should have time limitations on it, so at the minimum it takes at least say, 3 months to get to full, with the richest, largest guild hitting it at the same time as the most dedicated 5 man team.

Didn’t know it was a competition. I’ll have to look for the leader board and see where my guild is.

Nope, don’t agree. There has to be some incentive to be a larger guild and that’s one of them. Take your time, don’t kill yourself and build your Guild Hall. It’s not going anywhere.

I believe that everyone should be able to get a guild hall. But I don’t believe that everything should be equalized so a small guild does everything as fast as a large one.

No you shouldent be able to a 5 person guild should take longer to uprade then a 10 or 20 or 100 or 200 guild.
Put your backs into and get cracking.

fyi, capturing a guild hall is scaled, a larger guild that field more people actually has more difficulty getting the guild hall compare to a 5-men team. so ur argument is invalid.

I’m sorry, but it IS a competition. Already now, the biggest thing in recruiting for guilds is having a high level guild hall. Guilds are already spamming everywhere “we have XX level guild hall” since this is EXACTLY what WoW did, it will result the same way: Players will gravitate to be recruited by the big guilds, not the little ones.

Guild Halls shouldn’t be used to divide players and this is what is currently happening.

i didn’t spam about guild level though there is one or two out of the many that asked for guild level, i simply ignore them. why invite ppl who only cares about guild level into the guild anyway.

I mean really, if you were new into the game or a solo leveled player, what guild would you choose to be recruited by?
“We are XXXXX guild with a level 40 guild hall and 400 active members!”
or
“We are XXXXX guild with a level 16 guild hall and 8 active members!”

Sorry, but the guy would choose the big guild. Every. Stinking. Time.

Guild Halls’ primary resource focuses should be with things found only in the guild hall area itself. Think like how WoW did their Garrisons. By thrusting the guild halls into the trading post, they’ve devastated the economy.

SkyShroud.2865:

i didn’t spam about guild level though there is one or two out of the many that asked for guild level, i simply ignore them. why invite ppl who only cares about guild level into the guild anyway.

True; however WvW players would need this. Whichever WvW guild first gets Tower Claiming, among the other WvW upgrades, will become the powerhouse on that server.
They took away so many features from WvW players that now have to struggle to get it back. That’s beyond stupid.

SkyShroud.2865:

fyi, capturing a guild hall is scaled, a larger guild that field more people actually has more difficulty getting the guild hall compare to a 5-men team. so ur argument is invalid.

Not really invalidating any part of the argument, as once the hall is captured it’s still on a FAST track to being upgraded by a huge guild.
If anything, you invalidated your own argument by bringing in the one and only feature that makes things harder for big guilds, especially when they might just do it with 5 officers.

Lacuda.8543:

SkyShroud.2865:

fyi, capturing a guild hall is scaled, a larger guild that field more people actually has more difficulty getting the guild hall compare to a 5-men team. so ur argument is invalid.

Not really invalidating any part of the argument, as once the hall is captured it’s still on a FAST track to being upgraded by a huge guild.
If anything, you invalidated your own argument by bringing in the one and only feature that makes things harder for big guilds, especially when they might just do it with 5 officers.

the basis of your argument is this
“If it can take 5 people to capture the guild hall, those same 5 should be able to competitively keep up with upgrading the guild hall as anyone else”

however, the reality is the more people, the harder to capture thus your argument which is based on that thus become non-convincing.

also, even in the old guild system which use influence, larger guild too upgrade their guild faster unless the smaller guild pump large amount of golds into purchasing influence. still, that will means the smaller guild go out of their way to burn their pockets to keep up with the competitions. reality is, in this kind of linear progression, the larger guild will always get their guild hall up either faster or easier or both.

Right now Guild Hall are a huge cost for anyone with a small guild. I don’t expect Anet to reduce all the prices for the guild hall, In fact I like that some have huge pricetags(good thing to go for). The issue I have is the basic parts are gated by hundreds of gold pricetags.

You need 359g30s00c (Plus 1k atherium and 100 favor) Just to be able to buy a chair to sit on in the guild hall, and that’s not taking into account what is required to get up to that!