On the one hand I think it’s a good idea, it would make it more noticeable.
On the other hand I’ve played games that use that system and in all honesty there’ still only about a 50% chance I’ll read the message. If I’m slow to load in and map or guild chat is busy it might be off the screen before I see it, or my mind will be on what I want to do when I log in and I won’t even look at the chat box until some time later.
It would probably help, but I don’t think it’s a fool-proof system. IMO the best way to get the message out about guild events is either to hold them at a regular time so people get to know when they are or to talk about them regularly when lots of people are on.
Danielle Aurorel, Dear Dragon We Got Your Cookies [Nom], Desolation (EU).
“Life’s a journey, not a destination.”
No thanks, I dont need to be bombarded with guild information every time I log on. If I am interested in the guild information pop open your guild tab.
It’s not like you get bombed.
Regular Guild invitation messages that pops up on the map chat, People calling events, people asking for help and random discussions on the chat is what will bombard your chat.
This message will pop up once everytime when you log in with a character and maby also when the Message of the day is updated. Is that Bombarded?
Yes it is, Every time I switch a character another window to close. Every time I log in another window to close. If you want to see your guilds message of the day press G, it isn’t that hard. I don’t understand how pressing one key to look at MOTD without removing choice of not looking at it 50 times a day from other players is hard.
how about not another window to close. instead the short, twitter sized message of the day appears in your chat log at the top, just as a system message would appear. nothing to close, nothing in the way, and it’s already using an existing interface.
in the original guild wars, it only appeared the first time you logged on from starting the program. if you went to the log in screen to swap toons, you would not see the message again. if you closed the program entirely and then logged on, you would see the message.
it should be different from guild info (teamspeak, server info, weekly/daily events on a schedule) it should be, literally, a message of the day. “Join us in Caledon Forest for a JP Race at reset!” Something like that, would make guild management so easy.
Smitten Mittens (The Gothic Embrace [Goth], Fort Aspenwood)
I support the change and at the same time, I don’t think it will resolve the issues the OP expects it to. I can guarantee two things:
- Every guild leader wants this feature (although some want a toggle for it).
- 90% of guild members will ignore it 90% of the time in 90% of guilds.
Like any recurring message, people will start to ignore it unless it’s changed frequently. And most leaders aren’t willing to change it more often than a few times a month.
I’d prefer to see a unified “guild info” tab for members, with sub tabs that are individually editable by the GL. Officers would then help teach guildies to read these messages before asking questions in guild chat. Those sub tabs would be things that nearly all guilds want their members to know:
- VoIP details — how to connect to comms.
- Website details.
- Repeat Events — things the guild does at same time each week (ideally, converting to the same time zone the user selected in game options)
- One-time events — special events.
- Message of the day — actual text message (silly or serious).
John Smith: “you should kill monsters, because killing monsters is awesome.”
Definitely not every login. First time after that message has changed, sure, that might be a good idea.
Actions, not words.
Remember, remember, 15th of November
Following up now that this is in the game (longer motd, pops up when you first rep or change rep).
So far, people are just as unlikely to read the message as they were before. Some have even expressed annoyance that changing rep spams their chat box and forces them to scroll up to read missed chatter.
It hasn’t addressed the central issue of making it easier for members to see critical info and when it changes.
What I would have preferred:
- a new subtab with sections for the appropriate details (as mentioned above: voip, upcoming dates, etc).
- a single line in chat that would only say the date that the info changed, e.g. “Guild Server info changed two days ago” (instead of spamming the entire motd with any typo fix).
tl;dr we need to be more careful about how we ask for changes, not just what we ask for.
John Smith: “you should kill monsters, because killing monsters is awesome.”
