Guild Wars 2

For the umteenth week in a row the selection of Guild Missions have been so poor. No puzzles at all this week.
So this weeks choices are 3 races, 3 treks, 1 challenge, and 1 single target bounty? Come on, a little more randomness.

Now examples of more poor randomness in the past weeks include – duplicate puzzles and duplicate challenges.

Have you been tracking what guild missions have been available and then ran an analysis to determine if they’re not random?

Ayrilana.1396:

Have you been tracking what guild missions have been available and then ran an analysis to determine if they’re not random?

What they describe actually sounds like they ARE random – in the sense that duplicate bounties, and “no puzzles again” are things that people would not include in a non-random sequence.

But 3 races, 3 treks, duplicate puzzles and challenges for 2 weeks in a row at one point shows there is something wrong with at least the variety generator in the RNG. There should be something in there to stop it from issuing 3 of one kind of mission.

Pretty sure there were at least two puzzles within the last three weeks …

How is 3 race and 3 treks any more broken than when it is 3 puzzles?

Heibi.4251:

But 3 races, 3 treks, duplicate puzzles and challenges for 2 weeks in a row at one point shows there is something wrong with at least the variety generator in the RNG. There should be something in there to stop it from issuing 3 of one kind of mission.

It wouldn’t be very random if there couldn’t be duplicates of the same mission. Two weeks really isn’t enough time to really determine whether there’s an issue with RNG.

It’s been more than 2 weeks in a row for the lack of variety that there used to be. At one time you could actually expect at least 1 puzzle, 1 challenge and 1 bounty. This has been occurring for more than a month. For about 3 weeks in a row we had duplicate puzzles and challenges, not to mention duplicate races 2 weeks in a row. We’d have 3 bounties, and 2 treks. Then we started getting no puzzles. Now we have 3 races and 3 treks with no puzzles with 1 challenge and 1 single target bounty.

Simply put there is something wrong with the variety aspect of the RNG. Too many times in a row we’ve had very little different to choose from. There’s more variety in the type of WvW mission we receive compared to the other pve missions.

You can be a pew pew and spit on the idea like several of you obviously are, and seem to enjoy doing, but our guild loves guild mission night. It’s something to look forward to. With lack of variety guildies get frustrated and slowly start to see no reason to come. This is a quality of life issue. Before this string of duplication there was actually a variety to choose from instead of just a harder version of the same puzzle, challenge or trek. At least the level of Bounties have different targets, albeit limited in number.

So if you don’t think anything is wrong, you can ignore this thread, since you obviously haven’t been paying attention to what guild missions have been popping up. I’d like to hear if other guild mission loving guilds have also noticed this trend.

The only issue is the lack of variety among guild missions as a whole as they haven’t been touched since 2013

Ayrilana.1396:

The only issue is the lack of variety among guild missions as a whole as they haven’t been touched since 2013

That is very true. But at least in the RNG there should always at least be a guaranteed puzzle, challenge, and bounty. And duplicate missions should also not occur.

Heibi.4251:

Ayrilana.1396:

The only issue is the lack of variety among guild missions as a whole as they haven’t been touched since 2013

That is very true. But at least in the RNG there should always at least be a guaranteed puzzle, challenge, and bounty. And duplicate missions should also not occur.

That wouldn’t be RNG.

strm did lagnmar estate and angvars trove in the last few weeks.

Ayrilana.1396:

Heibi.4251:

Ayrilana.1396:

The only issue is the lack of variety among guild missions as a whole as they haven’t been touched since 2013

That is very true. But at least in the RNG there should always at least be a guaranteed puzzle, challenge, and bounty. And duplicate missions should also not occur.

That wouldn’t be RNG.

But it would guarantee variety, which is also needed.

Heibi.4251:

Ayrilana.1396:

Heibi.4251:

Ayrilana.1396:

The only issue is the lack of variety among guild missions as a whole as they haven’t been touched since 2013

That is very true. But at least in the RNG there should always at least be a guaranteed puzzle, challenge, and bounty. And duplicate missions should also not occur.

That wouldn’t be RNG.

But it would guarantee variety, which is also needed.

It reduces the number of possible combinations which reduces the variety.

Ayrilana.1396:

Heibi.4251:

Ayrilana.1396:

Heibi.4251:

Ayrilana.1396:

The only issue is the lack of variety among guild missions as a whole as they haven’t been touched since 2013

That is very true. But at least in the RNG there should always at least be a guaranteed puzzle, challenge, and bounty. And duplicate missions should also not occur.

That wouldn’t be RNG.

But it would guarantee variety, which is also needed.

It reduces the number of possible combinations which reduces the variety.

But having 3 of one kind of mission truly reduces variety. And having duplicates definitely reduces variety.

Heibi.4251:

Ayrilana.1396:

Heibi.4251:

Ayrilana.1396:

Heibi.4251:

Ayrilana.1396:

The only issue is the lack of variety among guild missions as a whole as they haven’t been touched since 2013

That is very true. But at least in the RNG there should always at least be a guaranteed puzzle, challenge, and bounty. And duplicate missions should also not occur.

That wouldn’t be RNG.

But it would guarantee variety, which is also needed.

It reduces the number of possible combinations which reduces the variety.

But having 3 of one kind of mission truly reduces variety. And having duplicates definitely reduces variety.

It’s all random. You can have have 10 PvE guild missions where there are five different types. All of the possible guild missions are separated between easy, medium, and hard. There will obviously be repeats with the chance of doing any of the type twice very highly probably and doing it three times very probable do to the difficulty ranking.

Variety comes not from the mission types but the missions themselves. You’re more likely to see people disappointed about doing Save Our Supplies three times than doing three different guild challenges.

It doesn’t help that races are still bugged.

Anet’s ambivalence toward guild missions is baffling to me. We haven’t seen a new PVE mission since May of 2013 (almost 4 years now) despite the appeal of that kind of content – and the “easy to update” system they claim they implemented with HOT.

Right now, my guild only does missions for one reason – it gives us an in game excuse to get together in a large group. That’s pretty much it. We’ve done every mission so many times at this point that we could probably do them blindfolded. I think it’s telling that, despite that fact – and that most of us probably find them pretty boring at this point, we still do them every week.

And every week we talk about how great it would be to have some new ones. We continue to hold out hope, but, at the same time, feel a little less enthusiastic (about the game in general) the longer we have to wait.

I’m not sure how to say it any louder – or, at this point, if Anet has simply forgotten about them – but if their silence/lack of movement after 4 years is any indication of future developmental priorities, I worry for the future of the game.

It’s time for them to remember just how important guilds – and the communities they create – are to this game. And they definitely need to do so before another game/developer out there realizes how badly they’ve dropped this ball and actually gives us what this game was trying to do – in regard to developing and supporting in game communities – 3.5 years ago.

And, as a reminder (again) – https://youtu.be/W1WBYEfJVb4?t=334