So I understand you want to fix exploits, that’s great. But making it take T5 economy to do it? I mean, that sucks, but it’s still whatever. It just means that smaller guilds will now be unable to use that feature at all, which was really helpful to them.
But what’s worse? Now it costs a merit to make a guild transport. A merit? Come on guys, you must be kidding. For a guild not abusing whatever exploit was closed, that makes these things essentially worthless. They don’t do enough to burn merits that are hard earned and critical to achieving other more important upgrades. Even big guilds won’t buy these things now because they’re just not worth the cost.
Can’t you close the exploit without ruining the functionality for everyone in-game? The way this was changed is seriously a terrible approach to address exploits.
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I despise exploiters, botters, and gold sellers. They ruin the game for us in so many ways. Everyone that was using that in the intended way is now punished for the jerks that exploited it, whatever they did. This basically removed my guild from ever using that item.
Edit: it is an item you can use like guild magic find banners only it opens the guild vault for you. It isn’t that critical, just convenient. If you want to put items in that vault for guild use and to get them out of your bags like you are running dungeons or out doing things away from banks. I don’t know how they were exploiting it. Besides, its against the rules to talk about details of exploit mechanics.
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I think the “exploit” was just people using guilds as "on demand mobile banks ", less true banks upgrades, less gems sold and etc.
…i cant believe arenanet thinks this is an exploit…
i personally never used the guild transport bank but i have no problem with others doing it!
Why?
Because they have as good as NO advantage from it (and thats what makes an exploit and exploit)
they dont earn more gold or items faster it just makes life a little bit easier by saving a wp maybe which costs like 3 silver max and by saving the time you would have to wait until your screen loads…
Can’t you close the exploit without ruining the functionality for everyone in-game? The way this was changed is seriously a terrible approach to address exploits.
No. They can’t. Just look at Orbs of Power in WvW.
You have gotten what you paid for, all that remains is biweekly gemshop pushing.
That’s the way of the world these days, sadly. Doesn’t matter how many innocent people get caught in the crossfire, as long as you get one guilty one, everything’s fine.
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One merit is too much for me as I’m a one person guild and I have no interest of doing guild missions, so congrats for taking away useful things from small guilds that used them without doing exploits. All the large guilds will not be bothered by this in anyway shape or form as large guilds have no problems earning loads of influence a day plus getting merits, all this does is screw over small guilds/one person guilds.
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I think the “exploit” was just people using guilds as "on demand mobile banks ", less true banks upgrades, less gems sold and etc.
…i cant believe arenanet thinks this is an exploit…
i personally never used the guild transport bank but i have no problem with others doing it!
Why?
Because they have as good as NO advantage from it (and thats what makes an exploit and exploit)
they dont earn more gold or items faster it just makes life a little bit easier by saving a wp maybe which costs like 3 silver max and by saving the time you would have to wait until your screen loads…
Why did you simply take that as accurate? The basis of the exploit wasn’t just using mobile guild bank capability. This was a case of players in game taking advantage of other players. Apparently ArenaNet received enough data about this happening in-game to take rather draconian measures against it. Yes, it sucks that this is an inconvenience to legitimate players. They had to weigh this inconvenience against the potential damage of the exploit to- wait for it- legitimate players.
If you feel making access to the guild bank slightly less convenient is destroying the game, that’s your prerogative. You’re more than entitled to complain vocally about it as well.
It’s pretty crappy to suspect nefarious intent on their part, however, like they just really wanted to stick it to small guilds. I hate it every time an exploit was used widely enough to take universal action against. That doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be done.
I think the “exploit” was just people using guilds as "on demand mobile banks ", less true banks upgrades, less gems sold and etc.
…i cant believe arenanet thinks this is an exploit…
i personally never used the guild transport bank but i have no problem with others doing it!
Why?
Because they have as good as NO advantage from it (and thats what makes an exploit and exploit)
they dont earn more gold or items faster it just makes life a little bit easier by saving a wp maybe which costs like 3 silver max and by saving the time you would have to wait until your screen loads…
Why did you simply take that as accurate? The basis of the exploit wasn’t just using mobile guild bank capability. This was a case of players in game taking advantage of other players. Apparently ArenaNet received enough data about this happening in-game to take rather draconian measures against it. Yes, it sucks that this is an inconvenience to legitimate players. They had to weigh this inconvenience against the potential damage of the exploit to- wait for it- legitimate players.
If you feel making access to the guild bank slightly less convenient is destroying the game, that’s your prerogative. You’re more than entitled to complain vocally about it as well.
It’s pretty crappy to suspect nefarious intent on their part, however, like they just really wanted to stick it to small guilds. I hate it every time an exploit was used widely enough to take universal action against. That doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be done.
I dont feel making acces to the guild bank less convenient is destroying the game (you really exaggerate with saying that i could have this opinion —> maybe you read that i wrote that i didnt even use it myself ever since launch….^^)
i just think its an unnecessary nerf
you said:
“Why did you simply take that as accurate? The basis of the exploit wasn’t just using mobile guild bank capability. This was a case of players in game _taking advantage of other players”
But if the basis of exploit is not just using it then pls tell me what could be an exploit with it because i really cant imagine ANYTHING that would give players a bigger advantage than what you said yourself “make the guild mank slighlty more convenient” ^^
and if you can think of ANY exploit pls tell me because you wrote it wasnt just using the mobile guild bank but you didnt say what it was then? ^^
I think the “exploit” was just people using guilds as "on demand mobile banks ", less true banks upgrades, less gems sold and etc.
…i cant believe arenanet thinks this is an exploit…
i personally never used the guild transport bank but i have no problem with others doing it!
Why?
Because they have as good as NO advantage from it (and thats what makes an exploit and exploit)
they dont earn more gold or items faster it just makes life a little bit easier by saving a wp maybe which costs like 3 silver max and by saving the time you would have to wait until your screen loads…
Why did you simply take that as accurate? The basis of the exploit wasn’t just using mobile guild bank capability. This was a case of players in game taking advantage of other players. Apparently ArenaNet received enough data about this happening in-game to take rather draconian measures against it. Yes, it sucks that this is an inconvenience to legitimate players. They had to weigh this inconvenience against the potential damage of the exploit to- wait for it- legitimate players.
If you feel making access to the guild bank slightly less convenient is destroying the game, that’s your prerogative. You’re more than entitled to complain vocally about it as well.
It’s pretty crappy to suspect nefarious intent on their part, however, like they just really wanted to stick it to small guilds. I hate it every time an exploit was used widely enough to take universal action against. That doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be done.
This was a case of players in game taking advantage of other players
You chide someone on taking something as accurate, then in return you make a broad statement that is supposed to be taken as accurate. Priceless.
