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Posted by: RuneCrimson.7380

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ok the problem I have just noticed recently is that one guild maybe more are doing their best to Dominate events….forcing people out of maps just cause they want more and more people to join their guild and not let people become apart of the events unless they are in their guild and in their TeamSpeak. Everyone paid for this game everyone has the right to play it how they wish and when they wish no guild or people have the right to force a person out of events or maps cause they want to Dominate the event or Map. Thats just my opinion and hey thats my right too.

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Posted by: DeathMetal.8264

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No guild can force you out of the map O.o…if anyone harass you, report it

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Posted by: CMM.6712

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I have witnessed this gather people up from the map, get them organized, then take most of the people and leave the map and leave groups of people behind, standing there like what just happened… I know there are taxi’s and ip commands and party join functions, but not all players know about these things. Leaving them hanging expecting something big to happen and then just leaving is wrong.

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Posted by: Dasenthal.6520

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DeathMetal is correct, They can’t force you out of the map and if anyone tries you should report them…

However I will admit this is something that Anet should have seen coming with the Megaserver because it was mentioned in the forums shortly after the idea was announced.

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Posted by: Ykfox.3825

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I’ve never actually heard of any guild even trying something like this…

Edit: @CMM – It sounds like you’re referring to TTS/other large guilds that set up for Tequatl/Triple Trouble events. Usually the reason they jump to a ‘clean’ map is because the map they’re on has lots of people who are off doing other things/just not listening. By jumping to a clean map they get more room to taxi people in who want to do the event successfully and will listen (Increasing the chance of it being successful.)

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Posted by: RuneCrimson.7380

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I can name one but I will keep the Flaming of a guild down but I know from experience it happened to me.

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Posted by: Conncept.7638

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No guild can force you out of the map O.o…if anyone harass you, report it

More than report it, screenshot that next time and make a support ticket so they can deal with the guild and guild leaders.

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Posted by: DomAltares.8651

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I have witnessed this gather people up from the map, get them organized, then take most of the people and leave the map and leave groups of people behind, standing there like what just happened… I know there are taxi’s and ip commands and party join functions, but not all players know about these things. Leaving them hanging expecting something big to happen and then just leaving is wrong.

Sadly, that’s how it goes. They’re trying to get as many of their guild members into a map as possible, since maps are population limited. Guilds exist for their members.

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Posted by: locoman.1974

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There’s no way to force anyone out of the map, at most they can ask you to leave the map if they want to bring more of their people but it’s entirely up to you whether you do it or not, and there’s nothing they could do if you decide to stay.

And if they start being rude to try to get you to leave, don’t get to their level, just report and ignore, they can be facing a temporal suspension or even a complete account ban if they keep at it, and don’t worry if they threaten to report you or something, Anet doesn’t do automatic suspensions no matter how many reports go in without looking at the logs first and seeing what really happened.

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Posted by: zenleto.6179

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I feel really ambivalent on this. On the one hand I have no problem with people grouping with like minded others to successfully complete things that need some coordination (Boss Blitz, Dry Top) but on the other I don’t like the elitist attitudes that this can foster.

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Posted by: DomAltares.8651

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I’ve never actually heard of any guild even trying something like this…

Edit: @CMM – It sounds like you’re referring to TTS/other large guilds that set up for Tequatl/Triple Trouble events. Usually the reason they jump to a ‘clean’ map is because the map they’re on has lots of people who are off doing other things/just not listening. By jumping to a clean map they get more room to taxi people in who want to do the event successfully and will listen (Increasing the chance of it being successful.)

This, as well. And I’m glad that TTS does it. I’ve taxied around behind them more than once for Teq, and it’s nice to end up on a fresh map full of people that are mostly there for the event, instead of 20-30 pre-positioned afk farmers standing around by the hylek turrets who don’t wake up and do anything until champs start spawning in the middle of them.

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Posted by: skullfaerie.7203

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I’ve never seen anyone “forcing” people out of maps or to join their guild… never o.O What I do know is that there are certain events- well.. one event in particular, that is very difficult to succeed at without communication, so asking people to please come and listen on teamspeak if you are participating is not unreasonable at all. It directly benefits you. Yes you.
Helping the event succeed is in your best interest (that’s what you came for, right?), so why not let the guild offering their ts to you at no disadvantage to yourself help you to succeed?
I imagine they’re not trying to, as you say, “dominate” the map, but they’re trying to get you and everyone else to succeed.

Or you can just say “I do what I want” and very likely waste your time and that of 100+ people. Why would you want that? How is that helping you? Just a bit of food for thought.

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Posted by: RuneCrimson.7380

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Telling me to join a Guild TS is telling me to join the guild cause I would have to except joining their guild to join their TS I cannot just jump into their TS and not join their guild. One member even told me to rep their guild during the time I am doing events with them which is telling me to join their guild. I won’t do it when I already am apart of a 100% rep guild. If they want people to join their guild they should do it like everyone else and actually ask and recruit.

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Posted by: RuneCrimson.7380

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It seemed pretty clear to me when I was going through it. But just wanted to see what everyone thought about the situation and if its happened to them.

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Posted by: IndigoSundown.5419

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All players have the right to play any content the game offers to all players. No player has the right to expect other players to enable his completion of specific events.

You’re basically stating that people do not have the right to use the megaserver overflow system so that they can complete large group events with those in their guild. This is not them infringing on your rights, it’s you deciding that these people owe you something because you happen to be there. These people owe you nothing.

You do have the right to organize your own attempt to complete these events, spawn a new map and taxi people into it. You don’t have the right to expect others to do that organizing for you. And yet, TTS is willing to do that. If they did ask something from you in return, while they are helping you out, that seems fine to me. Your choice always includes getting off your kitten and doing the organizing for your self.

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Posted by: RuneCrimson.7380

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They have no right to ask me to rep their guild during an event. I already rep a guild 100% of the time I am not going to get kicked out of my guild for reping another guild nor will I disrespect my guild for some elitest guild forcing people to rep their guild just cause they want to hog the map for one event. Don’t tell me what to do nor how to play and thats what they are trying to do. I don’t owe them crap either and I did not say they owed me anything but they have no right to tell me to do anything I do not wish to do nor will they force me off a map I am playing. Let them organize their little guild events if I want to stand on a event and play it without being in a guild or a TS channel thats my right.

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Posted by: mtpelion.4562

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No one can force you to leave a map, other than ArenaNet.

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Posted by: Scrribble.7496

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Just sharing my story – this happened to me at least a month or two ago.

A friend (who was in a organized Teq guild) taxi’d myself and a few guildies (not in the organized Teq guild) over to an organized map. We broke up our group and grouped up with the defense teams. This was at least 30mins before Teq. spawned.

Around the 10 minute till mark, someone from the organized Teq guild called out in map that they were jumping maps. My group disbanded and joined on him, then switched maps. The map was empty. A few people slowly trickled in, but no one from the organized guild.

I let my friends know not to jump ship, and sure enough, the guy who initiated the bogus “map change” was bragging in the previous map about his purge.

I finally made it back into the map with my friend’s help, but it was pretty insulting. I showed up early, wasn’t afk leeching, had everything ready and had a good team, and we almost got screwed for not being in their guild.

Since then, I’ve had decent luck with pug Teq. maps.

Disclaimer: I was not in their TS, I was in my guild’s TS. I guess the lesson is “join their TS or get shuffled out.”

I wouldn’t take a guild invite in exchange for access to their TS though. At that time, it was free access.

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Posted by: Yargesh.4965

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Get a grip. You DO NOT need to rep. You can seriously mess up wurm by not listening.

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Posted by: locoman.1974

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They have no right to ask me to rep their guild during an event. I already rep a guild 100% of the time I am not going to get kicked out of my guild for reping another guild nor will I disrespect my guild for some elitest guild forcing people to rep their guild just cause they want to hog the map for one event. Don’t tell me what to do nor how to play and thats what they are trying to do. I don’t owe them crap either and I did not say they owed me anything but they have no right to tell me to do anything I do not wish to do nor will they force me off a map I am playing. Let them organize their little guild events if I want to stand on a event and play it without being in a guild or a TS channel thats my right.

You don’t want to rep, just don’t join the guild, simple as that.

Every guild has its own rules, your guild’s rule is 100% rep, TTS (which is the one I assume you’re talking to) has the rule to rep if you’re a member during one of the events they organize, that’s it. If you don’t want to rep, just don’t join the guild, show up when it’s about to start, join the TS server they give out in public map chat, get taxied to the correct map once they find it, do the event, and done, no harm done. Don’t really see what’s so elitist about that (then again, I do consider elitist that any guild that kicks you for not repping 100% of the time you’re online but to each their own).

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Posted by: Skady.5916

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Everyone paid for this game everyone has the right to play it how they wish and when they wish no guild or people have the right to force a person out of events or maps cause they want to Dominate the event or Map. Thats just my opinion and hey thats my right too.

I totally agree with you mate!
Just like you have a right to “play how you want”, be ignorant and not listen to anyone around, the other people have exactly the same right to play “how they want” and leave you on an empty map to solo the event.

At the end of the day everyone gets what he wants and plays how he wants

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Posted by: joe.7684

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Before we judge TTS – or whatever guild is being accused of this here – guilty, I really think that we need to have somebody who can speak for them to come onto this thread and answer these charges. I’ve only ever seen TTS organizing an event at Triple Trouble, and virtually all my Tequatl runs have been organized either as PUG’s or by other guilds.

My real issue with TS (Team Speak) is practical: I’m severely hearing impaired, so I can’t use any program or app that’s voice-only. That said, the one time I was on a map that TTS was organizing Triple Trouble on, they weren’t requiring people to join TS. What they did say was that it would be very helpful during the event, but not mandatory.

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Posted by: Ykfox.3825

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@Scrribble: There are in fact bogus ‘TTS’ guilds that troll actual TTS run raids I’m told.

Also, no one has to join TTS to use their TS or go to their raids, although members do get a slight advantage sometimes. Which is only natural.

@RuneCrimson: If you have been talking about TTS…. you do NOT have to be in their guild to go on to their TS during raids. They only ask you to go on so you can hear them call out the different situations/etc. Which makes the raid go smoother.

They do ask that anyone in a TTS guild reps during their ‘official TTS’ raids so that they can gain at least some influence because they are attempting to unlock the ability to do guild missions/start world events like Teq/Triple Trouble whenever they want to.

Edit:
@joe: You’re correct, they don’t require you to be on TS during raids, they do prefer people to be on so that they can hear them explain what happens during fights and so they can call out situations that require people to react to them.

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Posted by: calyx.9086

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They have no right to ask me to rep their guild during an event. I already rep a guild 100% of the time I am not going to get kicked out of my guild for reping another guild nor will I disrespect my guild for some elitest guild forcing people to rep their guild just cause they want to hog the map for one event. Don’t tell me what to do nor how to play and thats what they are trying to do. I don’t owe them crap either and I did not say they owed me anything but they have no right to tell me to do anything I do not wish to do nor will they force me off a map I am playing. Let them organize their little guild events if I want to stand on a event and play it without being in a guild or a TS channel thats my right.

Lol I’ve never heard of a 100% rep guild that has a problem with someone repping a guild like TTS, unless they have the numbers themselves to complete tequatl and other large events on their own. If they do have that policy and can’t manage to field 80 of their own members to do tequatl every day, then maybe they aren’t worth being a part of because they obviously only view everything as black and white rather than the shades of grey that is reality. Unless your guild can provide for 100% of your needs, then there is no reason you should owe them 100% rep.

And no, they can’t force you off a map. They can request that you get on their TS and ask that yourep them, and if you decide not to, they can then elect to leave that map and taxi to another where people like you are not leeching, and leave you to solo the event or try to complete it with a bunch of pugs.

Big guilds that you aren’t a part of owe you exactly nothing, and they have every right to exclude you or anyone else they don’t want to play with. The only thing they don’t have a right to do is be rude or insulting or harass you.

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Posted by: RuneCrimson.7380

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If you say so….I know how it feels to be bullied and the situation I am talking about I was bullied. I did not name the Guild…. and I won’t someone else brought up TTS. And as for joining a TS of another guilds that could be a catastrophe if everyone and their brother can jump into a guild TS thats not apart of it. Can you say ‘Spy’ and Pure flaming from people who are on voice. I can see how that TS will go during an event. At any rate….I know what was going on and the guild I am speaking of might have been organizing the event but they went about it very harsh and wrong in my opinion.

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Posted by: Ykfox.3825

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If you say so….I know how it feels to be bullied and the situation I am talking about I was bullied. I did not name the Guild…. and I won’t someone else brought up TTS. And as for joining a TS of another guilds that could be a catastrophe if everyone and their brother can jump into a guild TS thats not apart of it. Can you say ‘Spy’ and Pure flaming from people who are on voice. I can see how that TS will go during an event. At any rate….I know what was going on and the guild I am speaking of might have been organizing the event but they went about it very harsh and wrong in my opinion.

Sounds like you are talking about a different guild from TTS tbh. I know there are several who mange to organize Teq/TT runs…

With regards to the TS problem you mentioned, generally there are Guild-TS admin’s on who are capable of muting/booting anyone who is being abusive/etc. (flaming), and they typically can lock basically every TS channel so that even if you hop on when there’s no raids/etc. You’ll just be in a sort of generic lobby.

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Posted by: drigas.1605

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Hello there friends.

I will inform you about this certain things:
TTS is a large alliance of guilds gathered for completing big events and world bosses like Tequatl or Tri Trouble.

We do not require from anyone to be in our guild in order to be in our TS during those events we simply inform everyone that it would be better to join in teamspeak so that you can get the whole strategy we are using for each boss. Just to make the whole thing easier.

As for bashing people out of mains & ofs this is just something casual when a huge number of people is moving to a certain map. If someone is not fast enough to join then he will probably hit the cap. Again we force none out of the map and of course we are taxing everyone we can so that more people share this experience with us. Things is that when you have something scheduled, its natural that a main layer of a map will be full due to our fair number of people.

We do not want to cause any problem with that that’s why many times we do many runs so that everyone is satisfied.

Thank you

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Posted by: rhapsody.3615

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I believe Anet did try to do something about this- by giving us the Guild World Event function. The problem is most guilds don’t earn enough merits to use this item every day, or even multiple times per day. It would be great if they released an additional gem store item that allowed guild members to buy a world event token to add to their guild.

What I recommed is: when you’re on a map that seems to be filling up with a particular guild, whisper a member and ask if you can party to tag along. That way, if they do move maps you can move with them. You can’t get upset at a guild that wants to run content together. They are a group of like-minded people who prefer an organized run.

Side note: One trick for these “100% rep” guilds is to just go offline while you temporarily rep a guild like TTS. IMO though, any guild leader that expects you to never rep another, even for 30 minutes to run teq or wurm, has their head up their bum.

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Posted by: DarkWasp.7291

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When someone tells me to join TS I’m like, “Uh sorry guys, I’m playing without sound at the moment.”

15 minutes later I’m saying, “Man, the music is really good in this game.”

Fortunately no-one has put those two together yet.

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Posted by: RuneCrimson.7380

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To me reping a guild 100% of the time is about loyalty and respect to your guild…and those things mean alot to me…I do not join a guild and treat them like they are a mere group of people that give me benefits in the game…they are my friends my family to me. I won’t just up and join a guild just to rep an event they are pushing people to join their guild. I have run the bosses before without joining a guild or a TS and gotten through them all and actually defeated them all with out so much as hearing a voice. So its possible to kill the bosses without pushing people around.
There is no need to try and make people do something they do not want to. I see no benefit to myself only to the guild in question. I get nothing but the normal personal reward. So I do not need to be pushed into repping their guild. As for the TS I don’t need to be in a groups voice so they can boss me around with a game I play. I listen to whats going on in Map Chat I do not need to go into a guilds TS and be TOLD what to do. There are better ways to organize then to try and dominate people into a certain guilds way of doing things.

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Posted by: Black Frog.9274

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I’ve run into variations on these sorts of things because I can’t join TS. I’m deaf. But when you tell people that, you generally get a lot of negative attention, called a liar, etc. It’s disheartening and annoying. It’s made participating in WvW a challenge as well.

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Posted by: pdavis.8031

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To me reping a guild 100% of the time is about loyalty and respect to your guild…and those things mean alot to me…I do not join a guild and treat them like they are a mere group of people that give me benefits in the game…they are my friends my family to me. I won’t just up and join a guild just to rep an event they are pushing people to join their guild. I have run the bosses before without joining a guild or a TS and gotten through them all and actually defeated them all with out so much as hearing a voice. So its possible to kill the bosses without pushing people around.
There is no need to try and make people do something they do not want to. I see no benefit to myself only to the guild in question. I get nothing but the normal personal reward. So I do not need to be pushed into repping their guild. As for the TS I don’t need to be in a groups voice so they can boss me around with a game I play. I listen to whats going on in Map Chat I do not need to go into a guilds TS and be TOLD what to do. There are better ways to organize then to try and dominate people into a certain guilds way of doing things.

If people are pushing you to join their guild, then you have every right to decline. If they are harassing you about it, report and block them. NO ONE can “force” you to join a guild, or play a certain way. As far as TS in bigger events (i.e. Teq, TT, dry top), it certainly is not required. If you know how to do the event, and can coordinate with just in-game chat, thats awesome! However, there are those who are not as familiar with the events, and jumping on TS may help them to coordinate much better and actually succeed. Also, joining a guilds TS does NOT require guild membership. I’ve done all sorts of events/wvw roaming/dungeon runs while in other guilds, and servers, TS. Heck we had our guilds WvW roamers in another guilds TS, and no one from said guild was even present. (they had left, but we stayed in the channel).

Joining a guilds TS for such events, does NOT mean they are trying to boss you around, or tell you what to do. They are simply offering a means to communicate easily, so that everyone is on the same page. They take the time to explain each stage of the event, to call out spots that may be having difficulty, whats going to come up next, etc. In my experience I’ve NEVER seen them call out specific people, or even a group, to do X,Y,Z. They’ll state that point B needs help, or champs are spawning in 10 secs, or something. But thats about it.

I’m sorry you had a bad experience, but really it’s a matter of perception. (I’m not saying yours is “wrong” or anything, but it might help to try to look at differently)

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Posted by: pdavis.8031

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Also, if you are concerned about such behavior from said guild, you can always try to contact that guild directly and bring your complaint to the guilds leadership. The larger event guild should have a web page, and who to contact, to facilitate such things. As well as send an in-game report if you felt harassed about it.

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Posted by: Condutas.3580

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Brace yourselve, a very big wall of text (but totally worth reading) is coming here!

@RuneCrimson.7380

First, let me give you a little insight of myself: I have been a member of TxS guild for around 2 months. Unfortunatelly, I left my usual normal guild and was forced too find out another one. VOLT guild was my choose. This is the first rule, straight from VOLT site:

“Representing the guild is a must and is required 100% of the time. We do not mind if you will be using your own private guild for the guild bank as long as it is only quickly”

I played in TxS for 2 months, I totally loved the work that players (players? INCREDIBLE KIND PERSONS!) like Fettered, Chiiwii, Lannah, Erza R put on doing tequatil/wurms runs. It was a incredible hard decision too do but I did the honourable thing: I left TxS, joined Volt and made sure I followed Volt guild rules, as much as that hurted me.

Someday, it can happen that my guild, VOLT, will change the rules (I for one will be incredible happy with such a decision) but until that happens I will keep doing the runs I loved soo much another way (help in random maps or do with other communities)

Now, why I am writing all this big wall of text? I want too give you a explanation about this simple fact: I have been in the two sides of this coin soo I am definately a experienced player too talk about this, considering both sides.

Txs/Teamspeak gw2 community runs /all other worldbosses running guilds are only trying too protect AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE what they have: They want too be able to do the worldbosses taking as little risks of failing as possible. They are the ones going out of their ways too spend time, train commanders and explaining stuff over and over… Risking failing worldbosses means not the fail for one player, but the fail of a entire map.

If you look at that side of the coins, then the rest comes naturally: its only natural that they try too have as much coordenation and skilled people, people in Teamspeak, too avoid failure.

Its soo easy too troll triple wurms kills (or even tequatil runs, if 6 trolls get the turrets, you are done for) if a bunch of players join a map with that intention on their mind.

You are a normal player (exactly as I am at the moment) that happens too enter maps with organized runs: dont take any insults from any commander (If they do it, report them), try too help the organized runs (Always remember this fact: if nobody organizes runs, nobody would kill this stuff) but showing your owning independance at the same time.

For example, if you know that there is a little better way of doing things in a tequatil map, you should do the best you can, not following blindly a commander that knows less than you. Make sure you thz the commanders if the run is good and nice, but pm them after a run if you think they did a mistake and could have done anything better (believe me, a good commander is always ALWAYS willing too listen too advices)

Sorry for the big wall of text, in the end its something like this: respect others too be respected, understand both sides of this situation and you are good too go!

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Posted by: Iris Ng.9845

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It seems clear to me that OP can do perfectly fine by himself without anyone telling him what to do. On the other hand, the guild which tries to organize the said event also can do perfectly fine without those people who wish not to communicate with them. Consequently, that guild will likely to leave the map to organize the event with other like-minded people. I think it is a very reasonable solution. Every one has their rights to do their own things… Actually, I’m trying to understand what the OP is complaining about… His reasons just lost me…

Anyhow, I’m dying to know of a way to force certain trolls out of the map, if it ever exists.

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Posted by: RuneCrimson.7380

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ok but I still do not know why I would HAVE to be pushed into another guilds TS its not something I just up and do. I am apart of blackgate TS and My own guilds TS and joining another feels like I am merely disrespecting my own Guild and I won’t do that cause joining their TS is joining their guild in my mind. If it was a World Boss TS that everyone can use as a community TS that would be different. Or even call it a Megaserver TS but to make people join a guilds TS is telling them that their guild runs everything and you are under their thumb and you could be bullied by them cause your not apart of their guild.

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Posted by: uberkingkong.8041

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I’ve never actually heard of any guild even trying something like this…

Edit: @CMM – It sounds like you’re referring to TTS/other large guilds that set up for Tequatl/Triple Trouble events. Usually the reason they jump to a ‘clean’ map is because the map they’re on has lots of people who are off doing other things/just not listening. By jumping to a clean map they get more room to taxi people in who want to do the event successfully and will listen (Increasing the chance of it being successful.)

They do this all the time at reset for Teq and Triple Trouble.

Maybe they should just make Teq and Triple Trouble instanced raids.

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Posted by: IndigoSundown.5419

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TS, Mumble and Ventrilo servers cost money. Why should someone rent a server only for these events, when the same server can be used for both these events and other guild activities? Why does it matter what they call the server? You expect someone else to spend money so your sensibilities won’t be outraged? What stops you from renting a large server for these events?

What does this bullying consist of? If they’re telling you to do what they say or leave the map, well, they cannot enforce that demand. If they get abusive about it, report them and block.

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Posted by: RuneCrimson.7380

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That is my own convictions its not the guild as far as me feeling like I would be disrespecting my guild. And joining another guild just for events is not enjoyable to me I can do events without another guild I can do events with my own guild or with friends I do not need to join 5 guilds just to do events. I can have just as much fun running around and doing events with a group of people that just want to do them and not be pushed into a guilds TS.
As for the new TS server if I made the money to pay for it I would just to make sure people would not be forced into joining another guild and get into their TS. Being in another guilds TS would interfere with being in my guilds TS if events cannot be organized through Map Chat then Guild TS is not going to be any different.
I love the guild I am in….and I have a sense of respect for them that most don’t cause people think that jumping from guild to guild just to do events is enjoyable. The event is enjoyable not joining every guild that so happens to organize two different events thats just stupid.

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Posted by: Stooperdale.3560

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ok but I still do not know why I would HAVE to be pushed into another guilds TS its not something I just up and do. I am apart of blackgate TS and My own guilds TS and joining another feels like I am merely disrespecting my own Guild and I won’t do that cause joining their TS is joining their guild in my mind. If it was a World Boss TS that everyone can use as a community TS that would be different. Or even call it a Megaserver TS but to make people join a guilds TS is telling them that their guild runs everything and you are under their thumb and you could be bullied by them cause your not apart of their guild.

It seems as if you have decided to be insulted by this. Guilds are not enemies of each other. Players can be in more than one guild at once. Players can join and leave guilds for single events. Players can help each other whether they are in the same guild or not. There is no reason for anyone to be insulted by a player helping a guild (or visa versa) at Tequatl. If you choose to be insulted by other players in another guild offering to work with you then you are creating your own problems.

When a guild is bringing 50+ people to a difficult raid, and you want to participate, it is respectful to listen to what they have to say. The event will likely succeed or fail based on how they lead the raid and organize. If they are talking on team speak then consider the courtesy of listening to them on team speak. Of course you can refuse and do entirely your own thing but there is no reason why the guild would be pleased with that situation when it could easily cause the event to fail. They don’t know if you are going to behave or not since you are refusing their help and co-operation.

I don’t see how listening to another guild’s team speak is disrespectful to your current guild. As soon as you change your personal opinion on this you will find that your problems vanish. If you have to leave your guild’s chat server then just tell them what you are doing, they will probably understand, and there should no issue. Your guild will probably be happy if you succeed and glad to hear your story when you return.

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Posted by: RuneCrimson.7380

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II never said anything about not wanting the event to succeed what I said is I do not have to join a guild to succeed in the event. I can run the events with people without being in their guild or their guild TS. I get loot regardless of being in their guild repping them or not so why should I have to rep a guild I do not even want to be in. Why should I be forced into their TS when I can do the event without being in their TS just follow the dang group and do what they do its not rocket science. And no I am not trolling I am making a dang point that people should not be forced to do crap they do not want to. They should not HAVE to be in a guilds TS they should not HAVE to rep that guild just so their guild gets something extra when the personal awards are the same whether you are in the guild or not.

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Posted by: Paradox.1380

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I have come to the conclusion that you aren’t talking about TTS being that you said they pressured you to join them… that’s not a thing we at TTS do since we are literally only here for big events and sometimes a few of the guilds do missions. But for the record TTS’ TS is open to the public and is given out at every raid for those that are on the map to do the event with us but may not know our TS exists. You can come and hang out in TTS’ TS any time you want to. We encourage you to come in during events and the like to make it easier if there ARE map changes, etc.

If you don’t WANT to do something then don’t do it? I am confused about this whole premise it sounds like you are saying “I wanna participate but I don’t wanna follow their rules!!” No one is making you go anywhere and its the guilds discretion if they decide to move maps if one is just not working for them.

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

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ok but I still do not know why I would HAVE to be pushed into another guilds TS its not something I just up and do. I am apart of blackgate TS and My own guilds TS and joining another feels like I am merely disrespecting my own Guild and I won’t do that cause joining their TS is joining their guild in my mind. If it was a World Boss TS that everyone can use as a community TS that would be different. Or even call it a Megaserver TS but to make people join a guilds TS is telling them that their guild runs everything and you are under their thumb and you could be bullied by them cause your not apart of their guild.

in my humble opinion, i would not want to be a part of a relationship that made me feel like it is not ok to talk to other people. your relationship with your guild and/or server is not ok.

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Posted by: Zaklex.6308

Zaklex.6308

If you say so….I know how it feels to be bullied and the situation I am talking about I was bullied. I did not name the Guild…. and I won’t someone else brought up TTS. And as for joining a TS of another guilds that could be a catastrophe if everyone and their brother can jump into a guild TS thats not apart of it. Can you say ‘Spy’ and Pure flaming from people who are on voice. I can see how that TS will go during an event. At any rate….I know what was going on and the guild I am speaking of might have been organizing the event but they went about it very harsh and wrong in my opinion.

So you won’t name the guild, and apparently it’s not TTS as one of their members posted, therefore I am disregarding your entire complaint, as your complaint helps no one and is only complaining to be complaining. As for guilds that ask for 100% rep, I don’t understand how or why anyone would want to join one, GW2 allows you to be in 5 guilds at the same time, and those 5 guilds can be for different purposes(that’s why they created that option). You could be in a guild with friends, a guild that’s only for WvW, another one for sPvP, and even another one for just the big open world boss events, etc., etc.,…100% representation is a noble cause, but to restrictive(and this is my opinion of course).

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Posted by: DomAltares.8651

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They have no right to ask me to rep their guild during an event. I already rep a guild 100% of the time…

Well, there’s apparently one guild that you’ve decided does have the right to ask you to rep during the event, and you’re already in it.

Maybe you should ask your guild to spearhead Teq or Wurm several times a week to successful completion in exchange for their 100% rep requirement and your ‘respect.’

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Posted by: RuneCrimson.7380

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No I won’t name the guild cause its not worth it.

I was asked by a friend to join my guild and it was not like asking me he said they where taking members and I went myself to the guild. But what happened to me was not politely asking…they pushed me into either joining their guild or leaving the map when I was playing the game just like everyone else. But I am done with this thread since no one seems to get the point.

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Posted by: Dinks.2478

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No I won’t name the guild cause its not worth it.

I was asked by a friend to join my guild and it was not like asking me he said they where taking members and I went myself to the guild. But what happened to me was not politely asking…they pushed me into either joining their guild or leaving the map when I was playing the game just like everyone else. But I am done with this thread since no one seems to get the point.

nobody gets the point because it is nonsense. They cannot force you to do either of those things. You can stay in any map, and you can not join any guild you don’t wish to join. If they harassed you just report them and continue doing the content.

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Posted by: Osculim.2983

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The GW2community does alot of the big events and if you happen to be on the map in which one of the events take place your more than welcome to join. The call for people to be on TS during events such as wurm is needed solely to organise the events as it can fail if people dont do them right. We will never chase anyone out of a map either if anyone tells you to leave just report them.