Guilds are assets, need to be treated as such

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Posted by: Delois.3974

Delois.3974

I was suggested to re post this to the official forums about the potential for this kind of behavior to get out of hand. I come from eve, we dont want Guild stealing to become a source of income in this kind of game. I am not big on these forums, if anything is against the rules please let us know.

Please keep thread respectful and please keep any names of people involved out of this.

The original reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/3rxnox/reminder_with_guilds_being_more_valuable_be/


Good day folks, I just want to remind you all something we were just reminded. Today, my guild (HzH), a guild on JQ since the start of GW1. With HoT bribing people back, we also had many of our old leaders come back. The other day one of our leaders demoted everyone else. It used to be the top rank could not demote equal rank but this I guess changed. If this happens to your guild, Anet support will not be able to help you, I know multiple people in the guild was given a “We do not interfere with guild matters” response. While I understand there caution with touching these matters, there needs to be better tools for dealing with this since we had over a thousand gold into upgrades since the expansion.

I do feel since this expansion has such a strong use of guilds, this policy may need to be looked at. Especially once guilds are fully upgraded, I expect them to be valued at over 10k gold. This is no longer just a group of friend that can move to a new name which is how it used to work.

This is mostly a warning for those to remember to keep your guild safe, with all these people coming back, they may not be who they used to be.
I would also like to thank the many JQ guilds and leaders who have offered us support while we decide our next move.

EDIT: I feel changes like this shows that this is not guild drama, this is one person taking over the guild. This happened about 8 hours after he became a leader when everyone was offline. http://imgur.com/n8uZnb4

EDIT2: I will not disagree, one of our leaders made a mistake on promoting him, sadly one persons mistake may of killed a guild made at launch (No one blames/hates you if you are reading this)

EDIT3: I put in a ticket response asking that if this is allowed, can this become a playstyle much like games such as eve online? (Which I come from.)

EDIT4: I was told its “case by case” so I basically wouldn’t worry. We have TS logs, chat logs, screen shots, ect, I would not worry >>.

EDIT5: If anyone has any advice that does not want to post it, PM me on reddit or mail in game is Delois.3974

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Posted by: Darkpowder.9730

Darkpowder.9730

I sent a ticket about this, and the answer I got was to start a topic on the forums.
So as this topic was already started I am adding to it.
I feel this is some kind of exploit or scam or something like that (cant find the right word)
Someone that wasn’t even active come back and yay, HOT is nice, people has been actively working on the guild, made an awesome guild hall, with all the benefits it brings. Added new members, members feel good working as team with the leadership as it is really good and, and and… well, if is so good, why not keep it and kick every working officer that was there right? After all, as a returning member, I should have the right to keep what I used to like….
That should not happen. Now we are talking about time, effort, and even real money.
Before is something happened, you moved on to another guild, and well, miss some friends, miss stuff, but oh well, start over, move on.
Now. is not the same, the upgrades on a guild make a lot of difference on a game play and the whole GW2 player experience.
How would u feel if someone get their hands in ur wallet and steal your money?
Well isn’t this the same? A lot of gold (some of that gold bought with gems that cost money, money we work for in real life), some much effort and time, invested on this guilds now.
I do understand that anet customer support do not want to have a word on this, but there are cases and cases.

Ideas.
Leaders SHOULD NOT be able to kick leaders.
Leaders that fall inactive for xxxx period of time should be automatically demoted if there is other guild Leaders. If all guild leaders are inactive fall to next active officer in line.

I don’t know, just storming ideas, I believe this is the first time this happen after the expansion, but more will come, so I believe anet should be prepared for this and may be, hopefully, do something.

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Posted by: DeWolfe.2174

DeWolfe.2174

Just one question and that’s who??? Anet needs to ban this person immediately. Calling Chris Cleary!!!!!…. we need a hero on this one. This is just a seriously dishonorable attack upon good people and they need help.

[AwM] of Jade Quarry.

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Posted by: DeWolfe.2174

DeWolfe.2174

And yes, this is even a consumer protection issue for Anet. Those one time decorations were a selling feature for us to buy the Deluxe account. Now stolen and irreplaceable…..

[AwM] of Jade Quarry.

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Posted by: DarkMagister.7429

DarkMagister.7429

The eve follows you, man.

Yet I think in this game it will be fixed, as this is a candy-land, not harsh universe.

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Posted by: Dante.1763

Dante.1763

I really hope you guys get your guild back, what happened should never have ever happened, and is gross to say the least.

The pvp community reminds me of what Obi-kittenenobi describes Mos Eisley as from star wars.

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Posted by: SkyShroud.2865

SkyShroud.2865

classic takeover
may i know the person name? u know, juz incase he join my guild u can pm me :|

Founder & Leader of Equinox Solstice [TIME], a Singapore-Based International Guild
Henge of Denravi Server
www.gw2time.com

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Posted by: Just a flesh wound.3589

Just a flesh wound.3589

Considering there has been talk of guild selling already, it’s not too surprising that there can be guild stealing. With the expack, a fully updated guild is a valuable piece of property that cost a ton of gold and mats to make. Even a basic, bare bones guild with 3 vaults, a guild hall and a couple of tents is now worth more than before. Anyone who can steal a full guild and keep it has just won the Guild Wars 2 lottery. ANet should look into situations like this. It’s way more than guild politics now.

Be careful what you ask for
ANet may give it to you.

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Posted by: Durian.5419

Durian.5419

Wonder how many times GOON is gonna get sold.

Takkek Twicechosen, bone-collecting ranger of Plague[SICK]