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Posted by: Smitevil.3065

Smitevil.3065

Represent our guild we have cookies…

With the multiple Character names and multiple Guilds and only allowing you to listen in one of them at a time.

The Guild system is almost made to Encourage Drama in almost every aspect, membership, loyalty, ranking.

I have a guild mate who: Has one guild she prefers, one guild that she is an officer in , and one guild her friend has made

Do the people that make guild wars realize how much explaining she has to do to stay in those guilds, I mean she could have 3 guild leaders and each of those guilds having a couple officers asking her the same dumb “why arn’t you representing our guild?”

People are going to die over this stuff, it’s just a matter of time…

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Posted by: ZannX.4058

ZannX.4058

It’s only because she’s a girl.

I’d like to at least G chat with a guild that I’m not representing.

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Posted by: Debsylvania.7396

Debsylvania.7396

People make social decisions IRL, much like chosing multiple guilds, all the time. You have to decide how much effort, time, gchat communication, etc., you’re willing to commit to each guild you join, and you have to be honest with each group of people about your intentions within each guild. This is each individual’s responsiblity… and choice to join more than one guild.

Are you saying people can’t handle this? Why on earth not? And “handling it”, btw, includes declining multiple guild invitations if you find it’s too much effort to keep up.

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Posted by: ShadowGryphon.6257

ShadowGryphon.6257

I fail to understand the point of joining multiple guilds.
Kind of defeats the point imo.

If someone is talking behind your back… Fart.
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Posted by: ZannX.4058

ZannX.4058

People make social decisions IRL, much like chosing multiple guilds, all the time. You have to decide how much effort, time, gchat communication, etc., you’re willing to commit to each guild you join, and you have to be honest with each group of people about your intentions within each guild. This is each individual’s responsiblity… and choice to join more than one guild.

Are you saying people can’t handle this? Why on earth not? And “handling it”, btw, includes declining multiple guild invitations if you find it’s too much effort to keep up.

What? There is no electronic social media that restricts my interaction with another group simply because I’m currently interacting with a different one. If I message friend A, I’m still able to receive messages from friend B, and similarly in a group chat fashion. Your analogy has failed.

I fail to understand the point of joining multiple guilds.
Kind of defeats the point imo.

You must not have friends in different guilds.

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Posted by: Debsylvania.7396

Debsylvania.7396

People make social decisions IRL, much like chosing multiple guilds, all the time. You have to decide how much effort, time, gchat communication, etc., you’re willing to commit to each guild you join, and you have to be honest with each group of people about your intentions within each guild. This is each individual’s responsiblity… and choice to join more than one guild.

Are you saying people can’t handle this? Why on earth not? And “handling it”, btw, includes declining multiple guild invitations if you find it’s too much effort to keep up.

What? There is no electronic social media that restricts my interaction with another group simply because I’m currently interacting with a different one. If I message friend A, I’m still able to receive messages from friend B, and similarly in a group chat fashion. Your analogy has failed.

I fail to understand the point of joining multiple guilds.
Kind of defeats the point imo.

You must not have friends in different guilds.

I wasn’t making an analogy. I was advocating making simple choices. Just make a choice that you’re going to finish one conversation, in one guild, before moving on to another.

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Posted by: raphaeldisanto.5478

raphaeldisanto.5478

I fail to understand the point of joining multiple guilds.
Kind of defeats the point imo.

For roleplayers, there’s lots of reasons to have different alts in different guilds, based on which guilds are appropriate. (ex. Racially-focused guilds)

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Posted by: Smitevil.3065

Smitevil.3065

I like to message everyone I like at once, that why someone invented Twitter, and also the chat channel, are you going to say “Anyone want to party?” then change representation then say it again in that channel? And while your in that channel someone might be saying yes but you can’t hear it because your not in there anymore.

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Posted by: ShadowGryphon.6257

ShadowGryphon.6257

I fail to understand the point of joining multiple guilds.
Kind of defeats the point imo.

You must not have friends in different guilds.

LOL actually, I have no friends playing GW2 at all .

Sho ga nai!

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Posted by: Danikat.8537

Danikat.8537

I fail to understand the point of joining multiple guilds.
Kind of defeats the point imo.

Personally this is how I feel about it, but I suppose it depends on the guilds and what you want from them. To me a guild is mostly a group of people to chat to in-game, sometimes meet up with and coorperate with for bigger projects. But there are plenty of guilds out there which are for very specific purposes.

For example one guy I was talking to is in a guild a lot like mine – very casual and chat focused. He’s also in another guild which is exclusively for building a team for sPVP. They don’t care that’s he’s not representing most of the time, they only care that he shows up to practice and is there to participate in tournaments when they start doing them. This way he doesn’t have to choose one or the other, he can have both a group to hang out with and his tournament team.

I’ve also seen a lot of role-play guilds which require specific characters or are for specific purposes (for example sylvari only guilds that want to side with the Nightmare Court) but also say your other characters are free to be in different guilds.

I assume most people will only ever be in 1 at a time, but I think if people can find reasons to be in more, and make it work, then there’s no reason they shouldn’t have that option.

As for making it work…like someone else said it’s like having different groups of friends in real life – people need to understand that you can’t be around them or including them in everything 24/7. And that the might well not be into the things you do with your other friends anyway.

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Posted by: Leiloni.7951

Leiloni.7951

I tend to stick to one guild so I can get to know them and form a community there. I find it odd that people would want to have multiple guilds and it seems to me like you’re just making life harder for yourself. If you have friends elsewhere, you can still talk to them if you’re in a different guild. But being in one guild gives you a place to belong in a game – I wouldn’t want to be a “floater” going between guilds, it wouldn’t work for me.

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Posted by: Debsylvania.7396

Debsylvania.7396

I’m with you, Leiloni. The people I play with are either in my guild or in my vent, or both. It seems like far too much overhead to belong to multiple guilds.

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Posted by: ZannX.4058

ZannX.4058

I tend to stick to one guild so I can get to know them and form a community there. I find it odd that people would want to have multiple guilds and it seems to me like you’re just making life harder for yourself. If you have friends elsewhere, you can still talk to them if you’re in a different guild. But being in one guild gives you a place to belong in a game – I wouldn’t want to be a “floater” going between guilds, it wouldn’t work for me.

Maybe… just possibly… people already have friends before they started playing GW2?

I for example have friends from other games I used to play. I also have RL friends. I also have work friends that made their own guild.

Yea I know, mind blowing stuff.

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Posted by: ShadowGryphon.6257

ShadowGryphon.6257

I fail to understand the point of joining multiple guilds.
Kind of defeats the point imo.

Personally this is how I feel about it, …

I guess that’s why I’m one of those random “lone wolves” that heals or revives someone that wanders off to kill some more.
>=-)

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Posted by: Leiloni.7951

Leiloni.7951

I tend to stick to one guild so I can get to know them and form a community there. I find it odd that people would want to have multiple guilds and it seems to me like you’re just making life harder for yourself. If you have friends elsewhere, you can still talk to them if you’re in a different guild. But being in one guild gives you a place to belong in a game – I wouldn’t want to be a “floater” going between guilds, it wouldn’t work for me.

Maybe… just possibly… people already have friends before they started playing GW2?

I for example have friends from other games I used to play. I also have RL friends. I also have work friends that made their own guild.

Yea I know, mind blowing stuff.

So do I and every one in every MMO has had friends outside their guild. What is preventing you from chatting with them in game via whisper, or in vent, or grouping with them, or chatting in Skype, or whatever else? There is a world outside your guild and you’re free to socialize with all of them.

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Posted by: raphaeldisanto.5478

raphaeldisanto.5478

Every MMO I’ve ever played has allowed you to have different characters/alts in different guilds. GW2 is no different.

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Posted by: ZannX.4058

ZannX.4058

I tend to stick to one guild so I can get to know them and form a community there. I find it odd that people would want to have multiple guilds and it seems to me like you’re just making life harder for yourself. If you have friends elsewhere, you can still talk to them if you’re in a different guild. But being in one guild gives you a place to belong in a game – I wouldn’t want to be a “floater” going between guilds, it wouldn’t work for me.

Maybe… just possibly… people already have friends before they started playing GW2?

I for example have friends from other games I used to play. I also have RL friends. I also have work friends that made their own guild.

Yea I know, mind blowing stuff.

So do I and every one in every MMO has had friends outside their guild. What is preventing you from chatting with them in game via PM, or in vent, or grouping with them, or chatting in Skype, or whatever else? There is a world outside your guild and you’re free to socialize with all of them.

You’re kidding right… socializing out of the game is one thing, but organizing within the game is something else.

Let’s get back to my main point: there is no good reason why we don’t have gchat for multiple guilds. As it stands, we might as well not have the option to be in multiple guilds. A lot of things in this game seem half baked and over-presented. If someone told me I could be in “multiple guilds”, I don’t expect it to be half-assed “kind of” in one guild while really functionally only being in one.

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Posted by: Wasselin.1235

Wasselin.1235

Via whisper you can only chat to a friend at once. While I often group with my friends solely to chat with them, what if I want to chat with them while running a dungeon?

I would like to make private chat channels.

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Posted by: Eochaidh.4106

Eochaidh.4106

I think that people are just accepting guild invites without thinking twice.

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Posted by: Debsylvania.7396

Debsylvania.7396

Wow. There’s no reason to go all condescending. Your point is no more valid than anyone else’s, Zann. It’s apparent that the developers’ vision of how guild communications should work didn’t include inter-lacing guild chats. Suggestions are great but condescension is unnecessary.

Private chat channels do make more sense.

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raphaeldisanto.5478

private chat channels would solve all of my communications issues within this game. Especially if they were cross-server.

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Posted by: Raf.1078

Raf.1078

I’m a one guild person too. Too old fashioned, I guess. Can’t really see the advantages of the multi guild system.

I do think the current guild system doesn’t really do much to engender a sense of community. It would be nice to see guild chat text updates when folks sign in or ..say…level up? Just so you know when to say hello or grats.

As things stand right now…if you are questing, 10 peeps could sign in and you’ll never know unless you keep checking the roster.

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