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Posted by: NINJAWARRIOR.2376

NINJAWARRIOR.2376

It takes years to get this very nice looking skin, and i want it so bad.
Can you place this skin also in gemstore for the players who dont have time to wait or play to get it?

I dont mind if this skin cost double gem price like 1600 gems because i like it so much.

If others also wanna buy this skin please reply, you normaly get one piece from achievement chests, but to complete all pieces of armor it can probely cost more then 20k achievement point’s, while i already spend so much time each day ingame and also on the forum’s.

Players who play like 2 hours a day will probely never get it complete.

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Posted by: MauricioCezar.2673

MauricioCezar.2673

No, thank you.

This is the very unique reward that shows off how much effort you’ve put in the game as a whole (Pvp set is unique to pvp, so it not count). It is easily attainable for someone that play 2 hours/day. I play 30~50 min a day and I got 21k points myself.

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Posted by: mtpelion.4562

mtpelion.4562

I’d only be OK with the AP skins going into the gem store if they required 40,000 gems for each piece.

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Posted by: Belzebu.3912

Belzebu.3912

I’d only be OK with the AP skins going into the gem store if they required 40,000 gems for each piece.

Not even with such price I would like to have it in the store.
GW2 have so few skins that requires work/dedication and the radiant/hellfire are among them, so let it as it is.

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Posted by: Cyninja.2954

Cyninja.2954

It takes years to get this very nice looking skin, and i want it so bad.
Can you place this skin also in gemstore for the players who dont have time to wait or play to get it?

I dont mind if this skin cost double gem price like 1600 gems because i like it so much.

If others also wanna buy this skin please reply, you normaly get one piece from achievement chests, but to complete all pieces of armor it can probely cost more then 20k achievement point’s, while i already spend so much time each day ingame and also on the forum’s.

Players who play like 2 hours a day will probely never get it complete.

If complaining at least do some basic research…. seriously.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Achievement_rewards

By 9k AP you can have 1 of the sets complete (gloves, shoulders, helmet) or mix and match. By 18k AP you have both.

Also there are only 3 pieces per set. Now go troll somewhere else.

EDIT: Yes, I was corrected that the rest of the set was added during my absence from the game. Trolled myself. Going to keep this here as to not appear to edit my mistakes.

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Posted by: Subutex.2416

Subutex.2416

You are fogetting chest, boots and leggings.

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Posted by: AdaephonDelat.3890

AdaephonDelat.3890

It takes years to get this very nice looking skin, and i want it so bad.
Can you place this skin also in gemstore for the players who dont have time to wait or play to get it?

I dont mind if this skin cost double gem price like 1600 gems because i like it so much.

If others also wanna buy this skin please reply, you normaly get one piece from achievement chests, but to complete all pieces of armor it can probely cost more then 20k achievement point’s, while i already spend so much time each day ingame and also on the forum’s.

Players who play like 2 hours a day will probely never get it complete.

If complaining at least do some basic research…. seriously.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Achievement_rewards

By 9k AP you can have 1 of the sets complete (gloves, shoulders, helmet) or mix and match. By 18k AP you have both.

Also there are only 3 pieces per set. Now go troll somewhere else.

Huh only 3 pieces?

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Hellfire_armor

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Posted by: Cyninja.2954

Cyninja.2954

You are fogetting chest, boots and leggings.

Ah, well trolled myself didn’t I. Those were added while I was taking a break. Back when they introduced these skins they went up to 18k AP only.

Going to leave it up there because stupidity should not get edited, even it it is my own for once.

+1

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Posted by: Gerrand.3085

Gerrand.3085

The only part that annoys me about the set is that a Char’s neck when wearing the entire set isn’t molten. I mean seriously, wtf?

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Posted by: Vayne.8563

Vayne.8563

So the people that busted their kitten to get those can flock to the forums to complain? Because that’s exactly what would happen.

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Posted by: maddoctor.2738

maddoctor.2738

Instead of adding those sets on the gem store, they should rework when you get them. Allowing players to focus on one of the two sets and get all pieces before moving to the next one is an easy solution. Or, because that might make one set very easy to get, split them in 2. First you get helms, gloves, shoulders of one set, then helms, gloves, shoulders of the second (exactly how it is now), but do the same for the next 3 pieces. Get Boots, Leggings, Chest of the first set, then Boots, leggings, chest of the second one.

One of the things I dislike about Hellfire (Radiant doesn’t have this “issue”) is how horrible the leggings look alone. It’s very hard to find a combination for them, and having to wait for another 6k APs to get the chest piece is a very long period of time.

At the very least I’d suggest getting the chest just after the leggings, instead of requiring the player to get the second leggings first.

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Posted by: HawkMeister.4758

HawkMeister.4758

Nein.
/omgwtfbbq15chars

Polish > hype

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Posted by: Weirwynn.2390

Weirwynn.2390

On the one hand, I don’t agree that just anyone should be able to buy the set with gems, but on the other, the achievement point system is horribly, ridiculously broken, so meh.

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Posted by: Belzebu.3912

Belzebu.3912

I bet that HoT will bring many more AP possibility so get the radiant/hellfire armor won’t be as “impossible” as it is now.

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Posted by: Dante.1763

Dante.1763

On the one hand, I don’t agree that just anyone should be able to buy the set with gems, but on the other, the achievement point system is horribly, ridiculously broken, so meh.

It would help if they had changed the order of the rewards so that by 18k AP you could get a complete set. But to get the other you still need 36k AP.

The pvp community reminds me of what Obi-kittenenobi describes Mos Eisley as from star wars.

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Posted by: Malediktus.9250

Malediktus.9250

-1
I do not like this suggestion. Ingame achieveable skins should never appear in gem shop.

1st person worldwide to reach 35,000 achievement points.

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Posted by: NINJAWARRIOR.2376

NINJAWARRIOR.2376

Always there are players who hate other’s, but i dont like to do all the stuf you need for AP and i almost only play w vs w for many hours, and i dont think its fair that players must do those events and other stuf if they dont like it while they play the same hours or even more like me.

And i think there will be allot players that like that skin, of course all the players that have allot AP will be kittened off, but still those players also have all the other rewards from chests like perm more gold from killing, more magic find, more karma etc, so why complaing start sharing :P give others also the change to get something nice that they want.

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Posted by: MauricioCezar.2673

MauricioCezar.2673

The awnser is still no. (Imho, of course)

And there is a lot of reasons for that explained above, let we have at least 1 set avaiable unique to those willing to put effort on get it, since even legendary’s are buyable with credit card.

As much I love some gemstore itens for example, I don’t need those skins to play, so I am okay that I can’t get it due to it’s been locked behind a paywall.

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Posted by: RoseofGilead.8907

RoseofGilead.8907

Definitely not.

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Posted by: Conski Deshan.2057

Conski Deshan.2057

Abut i dont like to do all the stuf you need for AP

Then you didn’t earn the skin so you don’t get the skin end of story.

It’s a trophy skin to show you’ve done a lot, not yet another random gold/gem skin that’s meaningless.

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11x level 80’s 80+ Titles 2600+ skins , still a long way to go.

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Posted by: ryandeniszorro.6735

ryandeniszorro.6735

Tbh , i find hard to understand why you guys oppose this. The only skin we “earn” in this game was vine backpack and lumi set.
In any case , if buying this set would make a person happy , then, why not ? What bad would do to any of us if this guy gets this set for the gems ?

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Posted by: Subutex.2416

Subutex.2416

Then again, people can buy the AP for lumi set too.

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Posted by: MauricioCezar.2673

MauricioCezar.2673

Tbh , i find hard to understand why you guys oppose this. The only skin we “earn” in this game was vine backpack and lumi set.
In any case , if buying this set would make a person happy , then, why not ? What bad would do to any of us if this guy gets this set for the gems ?

Cause would upset (And be unfair to) a lot of players that put hours of effort into getting this skin? and I mean the people that really put effort totally focused on those particular skins, and not someone like me that find achievments a natural flow of the game.

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Posted by: RoseofGilead.8907

RoseofGilead.8907

Tbh , i find hard to understand why you guys oppose this. The only skin we “earn” in this game was vine backpack and lumi set.
In any case , if buying this set would make a person happy , then, why not ? What bad would do to any of us if this guy gets this set for the gems ?

People do earn this, via achievement points. And I’m opposed to it because I think rewards that have to be earned (AP chest skins, luminescent skins, the mini llama, the mistforged weapons, etc.) shouldn’t become gem store items.

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Posted by: Draknar.5748

Draknar.5748

Tbh , i find hard to understand why you guys oppose this. The only skin we “earn” in this game was vine backpack and lumi set.
In any case , if buying this set would make a person happy , then, why not ? What bad would do to any of us if this guy gets this set for the gems ?

It wouldn’t do any bad, but some people have grinded AP so they can be the few who have access to this skin. And I don’t mean grind like they grinded a week, I’m talking they’ve been grinding AP since day one.

You don’t see a problem with someone working towards something for years only to have it now become available to everyone with a credit card or a bunch of gold?

No it won’t physically harm anyone if it was available, but it’s a complete kick to the groin for people who have worked diligently for it.

As someone said, I personally would be ok with it on gem store if the price was 40,000 gems per piece. That would deter 99.999% from getting it. And those like OP that absolutely must have it and absolutely do not want to put any effort into getting it can make a sizable investment to Anet for it. In addition, someone with that set with low AP would also have to carry the public shame of spending $3000 for a skin because they simply didn’t want to work for it.

I won’t stop because I can’t stop.

It’s a medical condition, they say its terminal….

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Posted by: mtpelion.4562

mtpelion.4562

Here’s an idea:

You can BUY the skin from the Gem store, but it does not have the effects (the radiant glow or the fire and smoke) unless you meet the AP requirements.

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Posted by: PaxTheGreatOne.9472

PaxTheGreatOne.9472

So unless you were an AP grinder from start (you could have 25-38K AP by now)
It should take you ~6 yrs and the purchase for HoT for AP’s to get to 36 k when playing a bit more then casual.

I’m at almost 18K ap… (17,8 something) And I played 2 yrs minues 2 or 3 weeks holidays.
In fact I missed only 2 events… 1 being the karka invasion of LA (crashing instances and so on) and the other.. well… I was on holidays aty the time… some LS S1 thing as well.
I also missed 4 days due to an operation…

23 lvl 80’s, 9 times map, 4ele, 4ncr, 3war, 3grd, 3rgr, 2thf, 2msm, 1eng, 1 rev.
Been There, Done That & Will do it again…except maybe world completion.

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Posted by: CureForLiving.5360

CureForLiving.5360

It’s an exclusive armour that can only be achieved through… well through grinding AP like a mad person… but let’s say though being a veteran player. A full set basically tells you: this fella is awesome (or something in that line).

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Posted by: Crimson Clouds.4853

Crimson Clouds.4853

When I see some of these AP skins (especially the boots), I have a sense of appreciation towards the player- I know that they’re a loyal player that has put a lot of effort into the game.

Being able to bypass the effort ruins the prestige of these items.

Will OP’s suggestion ever happen? Most probably not. We’ve already seen A-net rethink “prestige”- the new Legendary weapons will not be tradeable, for example. They don’t want players to be able to obtain prestigious items without the effort.

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Posted by: NINJAWARRIOR.2376

NINJAWARRIOR.2376

It cost me allot effort to make gold in this game, i am flipping coins on trading like allot others do, i get allot items from w vs w what i sell, so i do allot effort what you dont see, and to see if players did put effort in the game most players look at there AP not there armor?

And allot players will be happy to buy it, and this can give the game allot money from selling gems, and a game is also about the money, this keeps the game alive.

I know some players dont like me, and allot have double or triple accounts to stalk others and troll them, so i want to say if you troll me it doesnt matter, i will say what i want, and i ask friendly to add this to the store. And some response very hatefull in my eyes. And if i spend 8 hours a day to w vs w because i like that more and do allot effort for the server where i play for, i dont get any extra AP like many others for doing that.

Allot players get bored and stopped playing because also it takes soooo long to get that skin.

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Posted by: MetalGirl.2370

MetalGirl.2370

No! … I play this game over 10-15 hours each day! I farm AP, I have over 25k atm. I WANT a way to show that I am a vet player and having full Hellfire/Radiant one day is perfect way to do so.

Mesmerizing

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Posted by: Azure The Heartless.3261

Azure The Heartless.3261

It takes years to get this very nice looking skin, and i want it so bad.

That’s the whole point. It’s a good looking skin set that requires in game effort.

Resident Disgruntled, Coffee-drinking Charr.
Zarin Mistcloak(THF) Valkyrie Mistblade(WAR) Kossori Mistwalker(REV) Durendal Mistward(GRD)
I used to think (build op, pls nerf) like you, but then I took a nerf to the knee.

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Posted by: LanfearShadowflame.3189

LanfearShadowflame.3189

Absolutely not! Not even if they put it in there at 40k gems at someone else suggested.

No wonder all of the games are going pay to win these days. People don’t actually want to play the games anymore. Just ugh.

Don’t look at me like that. Whatever you’ve heard, it’s probably not true.

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Posted by: Crystallize.8603

Crystallize.8603

If you’re quitting a game over getting a skin then you’re not interested enough in the game. Will the skin make all the difference really?

I’ve got a total of 2.5k hours and quit the game for a considerable amount of time.
I missed Christmas 2012/2013, and didn’t return until Haloween 2014. So I missed all of LS 1, all of the Karka event and anything inbetween. I missed SAB, and all the achievement points linked to all these events.

Right now I have most collections complete, the majority (missing maybe 1) of story achievements complete, the majority of sPvP achievements (slowly getting champs on other chars) and I’m sat at 10.5k AP
There isn’t a great deal AP wise that I can go and get except super grinding weapon slayers/pvp/wvw achievement points.

I guess this is my only criticism with the current AP system that given some achievement points are locked off forever (LS1 Holiday Events) it’s somewhat impossible for me to get above perhaps 15k AP right now. (That’s just a guess)
Even if I max out all my PvP/WvW/Collections (this is a MASSIVE time investment by the way which even people with 26k+ AP don’t have most of these done) I wouldn’t reach the 15k AP chest. I’d be reliant on dailys to actually get me up to the higher levels.

While I get it’s really nice for players to get achievement points for non-permanent content there does need to be a way (soon) for players who did happen to miss out on content / new players to start to build their way up to the higher AP markers.

Can mods please stop locking threads that are constructive.
Just delete posts that are derailments.

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Posted by: Carighan.6758

Carighan.6758

Always there are players who hate other’s, but i dont like to do all the stuf you need for AP and i almost only play w vs w for many hours, and i dont think its fair that players must do those events and other stuf if they dont like it while they play the same hours or even more like me.

Well then, what’s so bad about not being able to get a specific set of armor. I don’t see you desire the fractal weapon skins outside of FotM, do I?

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Posted by: Azure The Heartless.3261

Azure The Heartless.3261

so why complaining start sharing :P give others also the change to get something nice that they want.

No.

There needs to be a point to compel people to do the AP tasks, and those skins are a large part of it.

If people are diligent enough to play in a way that nets them that much AP, they should have something to show for it. It’s not fair or polite to ask that the prizes be straight buyout so you do not have to do the same work that those players did. You’re not more special than they are.

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Zarin Mistcloak(THF) Valkyrie Mistblade(WAR) Kossori Mistwalker(REV) Durendal Mistward(GRD)
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Posted by: Crystallize.8603

Crystallize.8603

It’s not fair on those that completed WvW mapping on all their characters to suddenly have the same map completion as those that didn’t. But unfortunately Anet stands behind the lazy player mentality I wouldn’t be surprised if this did happen eventually.

You can see this mentality cropping up all over the forums these days.

“All way points unlocked”
“I WANT STUFF FOR FREEEEEEEE”

Can mods please stop locking threads that are constructive.
Just delete posts that are derailments.

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Posted by: Astralporing.1957

Astralporing.1957

On the one hand, I don’t agree that just anyone should be able to buy the set with gems, but on the other, the achievement point system is horribly, ridiculously broken, so meh.

It would help if they had changed the order of the rewards so that by 18k AP you could get a complete set. But to get the other you still need 36k AP.

Yes. They should change the order in which we get those skins, so you could complete a set before the currrently ridiculous value of 33k AP, but at the same time they should stay AP-only.

Actions, not words.
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Posted by: Vrita.7846

Vrita.7846

It’s not fair on those that completed WvW mapping on all their characters to suddenly have the same map completion as those that didn’t. But unfortunately Anet stands behind the lazy player mentality I wouldn’t be surprised if this did happen eventually.

You can see this mentality cropping up all over the forums these days.

“All way points unlocked”
“I WANT STUFF FOR FREEEEEEEE”

Except WvW should not have been part of the map completion to begin with, it is not a part of Tyria, it is part of the Mists. Not only that, but lower population servers with a small/non-existent WvW player base were pretty much screwed out of completing all of the maps. It’s not so much laziness as it is accessibility. This is coming from someone that did map completion before WvW was removed from it, it was completely unnecessary.

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Posted by: CMM.6712

CMM.6712

No. Nein. Nyet.

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Posted by: NINJAWARRIOR.2376

NINJAWARRIOR.2376

I must agree that also new players that cant do the events from the past also never can reach that amounth of AP.

And maybe 1600 gems isnt much for allot players who are not rich like some others cant effort it.

I can understand its a special skin and i can understand if they put it on store for more maybe 2000 gems for the hole set or each part seperated for 800 gems each.

But dont overdo it.

And some players also have a real life and cant play like 10-15 ours a day.

Allot players looked on this topic and allot dont want to tell what they think, but if so much players look for this, i am almost sure the most want to know if they can buy it soon.

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Posted by: RoseofGilead.8907

RoseofGilead.8907

I must agree that also new players that cant do the events from the past also never can reach that amounth of AP.

Wrong. The players who missed the old holiday events and such can reach that amount with new achievements. They’ll just get there later than the players who were there to get the old achievements.

And maybe 1600 gems isnt much for allot players who are not rich like some others cant effort it.

I can understand its a special skin and i can understand if they put it on store for more maybe 2000 gems for the hole set or each part seperated for 800 gems each.

But dont overdo it.

No, if Anet for some reason went crazy and put these on the gem store, they should be at least 1k gems per piece. That being said, I’m fairly certain they won’t ever put these on the gem store. They even caved in and reskinned the Flamekissed light armor skin set when enough people complained about how non-humans were able to use the human cultural skin.

And some players also have a real life and cant play like 10-15 ours a day.

So? They’ll catch up eventually. And if they can’t play that often, then they clearly have more important things going on and should be able to realize that it’s ok if you won’t always be able to get a trophy if you don’t have time to put in the work.

Allot players looked on this topic and allot dont want to tell what they think, but if so much players look for this, i am almost sure the most want to know if they can buy it soon.

Page views aren’t the number of accounts that have read your thread. It’s the number of times it’s been looked at (by you and everyone else who has read and/or posted and come back to check responses).

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Posted by: MauricioCezar.2673

MauricioCezar.2673

Nice, so we all are probably one unique person with multiple accounts, and we specifically don’t like you?

That all, because we don’t agree with your sugestion, since it sounds like a insult for our hundred of hours effort into getting those particular skin?

Ah yeah, I am moving on. Good luck with life my friend o/

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Posted by: Just a flesh wound.3589

Just a flesh wound.3589

It’s not fair on those that completed WvW mapping on all their characters to suddenly have the same map completion as those that didn’t. But unfortunately Anet stands behind the lazy player mentality I wouldn’t be surprised if this did happen eventually.

You can see this mentality cropping up all over the forums these days.

“All way points unlocked”
“I WANT STUFF FOR FREEEEEEEE”

The reason they dropped the WvW map completion wasn’t because of ANet backing lazy players but because they are taking out the old WvW map and putting in a new one. The new map will not have the same degree of difficulty as the old one. There are choke points and traps that the old map doesn’t have and from the description it will be significantly harder for PvE people to get map completion there. Imo, since they did not make the two maps equal in difficulty, they removed the requirement as it wasn’t fair to make map completion harder for those who haven’t done it yet.

I have 100% map on 8 chars, so I’m not one of the “lazy players”

Be careful what you ask for
ANet may give it to you.

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Posted by: Dante.1763

Dante.1763

Yes. They should change the order in which we get those skins, so you could complete a set before the currrently ridiculous value of 33k AP, but at the same time they should stay AP-only.

Oh yes, i agree they should remain AP only. I will probably never have 33k AP, so i wont ever have one of these sets, not because i dont play the game, but ive done all the achievements for the game mode i enjoy the most. PVE and Story, and well dungeons, but im slowly getting those points too. Even if i did the 3 or 4 that i dont have that wouldnt even be enough to get my 9.5k AP chest. So it really is along term goal, as it should be.

The pvp community reminds me of what Obi-kittenenobi describes Mos Eisley as from star wars.

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Posted by: Malediktus.9250

Malediktus.9250

On the one hand, I don’t agree that just anyone should be able to buy the set with gems, but on the other, the achievement point system is horribly, ridiculously broken, so meh.

It would help if they had changed the order of the rewards so that by 18k AP you could get a complete set. But to get the other you still need 36k AP.

Yes. They should change the order in which we get those skins, so you could complete a set before the currrently ridiculous value of 33k AP, but at the same time they should stay AP-only.

You complete a set at 30k AP, 33k gives your 2nd leg skin, 36k your 2nd chest skin.

1st person worldwide to reach 35,000 achievement points.

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Posted by: NINJAWARRIOR.2376

NINJAWARRIOR.2376

I am surprised about this game, they say the most friendly game ever but see allot hate full responses on one simple question, i didnt asked to get raged by all of you, i didnt insult any one, i only ask something i like. And i do have a real life where i am going to now to have more fun then this forum with so much hate.

Hell fire skin put it in gem store please

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Posted by: Conski Deshan.2057

Conski Deshan.2057

I am surprised about this game, they say the most friendly game ever but see allot hate full responses on one simple question, i didnt asked to get raged by all of you, i didnt insult any one, i only ask something i like. And i do have a real life where i am going to now to have more fun then this forum with so much hate.

We are a very friendly and fun loving community.
People are taking issue with 2 things you are saying.

1. The having a life thing you keep saying it implying that the others don’t and that the way they choose to spend their time is somehow less valid than yours.

2. You are asking for an ultra rare skin that will be obtainable by only a select few as an extreme prestige item to be made a dirt common skin that every player in the game can get. If you’ve ever played an MMO before you will understand why they will be opposed to this as people have invested far more time and effort towards the goal than the measly 20$ price point you suggested.

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11x level 80’s 80+ Titles 2600+ skins , still a long way to go.

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Posted by: Astralporing.1957

Astralporing.1957

On the one hand, I don’t agree that just anyone should be able to buy the set with gems, but on the other, the achievement point system is horribly, ridiculously broken, so meh.

It would help if they had changed the order of the rewards so that by 18k AP you could get a complete set. But to get the other you still need 36k AP.

Yes. They should change the order in which we get those skins, so you could complete a set before the currrently ridiculous value of 33k AP, but at the same time they should stay AP-only.

You complete a set at 30k AP, 33k gives your 2nd leg skin, 36k your 2nd chest skin.

Ah, so it’s chest, legs, chest, legs instead of legs, legs, chest chest? Slightly better.
Well, it would have been slightly better if 30k wasn’t above the current maximum AP total (including the historical ones, that are no longer available for new players).

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Posted by: Silvia.9130

Silvia.9130

No, thank you.

This is the very unique reward that shows off how much effort you’ve put in the game as a whole (Pvp set is unique to pvp, so it not count). It is easily attainable for someone that play 2 hours/day. I play 30~50 min a day and I got 21k points myself.

Playing for over 2 years and half when dailies gave you like 25+ ap x day you know, all the living story and festivals achievements which don’t seem to be coming any time soon. So sure for a player who started to play lately it’ll be as easy as ever to get 30k+ ap at the current state (where if you got most of the explore/slayer/weapon achis you basically get barely 10 ap x day). 3000 days of dailies, about 8 years and most of the armor will be yours!

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