Guild Wars 2

jojorne.2175:

With PoF does this means people will forget Core and HoT contents?
Each expansion will replace old content activities?

Yep! Exactly! Just as with HoT, since which the non-HoT zones and activities have been abandoned.

Ok, all joking aside, I am slightly worried what will happen as more and more landmass appears. We got 6 mini-maps (mostly abandoned now, granted, as they were never designed to be “real” maps) with LS3, stands to reason we’ll get another set with LS4. On top of that the expansion zones.

This is fine right now. Plenty population between all servers. But make it 2019, expansion 3, population further declined, and many many zones will start to feel rather … lonely.

My guess they’ll continue to handle it with dailies. Give rewards for doing events in map A one day and map B the next. Keeps people busy and population high on those maps.

Maybe by expansion 3 or 4, we will get heroes and henchmen again!

I’m kidding. That will never happen.

Carighan.6758:

jojorne.2175:

With PoF does this means people will forget Core and HoT contents?
Each expansion will replace old content activities?

Yep! Exactly! Just as with HoT, since which the non-HoT zones and activities have been abandoned.

Ok, all joking aside, I am slightly worried what will happen as more and more landmass appears. We got 6 mini-maps (mostly abandoned now, granted, as they were never designed to be “real” maps) with LS3, stands to reason we’ll get another set with LS4. On top of that the expansion zones.

This is fine right now. Plenty population between all servers. But make it 2019, expansion 3, population further declined, and many many zones will start to feel rather … lonely.

Mostly, the only reason Central Tyria still has people in the maps is because of F2P and because of new players coming to the game. The number of people you’ll run into in these maps is still far lower than after megaserver update hit—unless it is a daily like event completer or a world boss or something.

HoT maps won’t benefit from F2P, or newer players, as they can skip to PoF. The zones already are abandoned compared to launch. I haven’t seen a tier 4 Verdant Brink meta complete since the first few months of HoT.

Its like saying Dry Top isn’t abandoned because it sometimes has a single map instance that manages to reach tier 4 (the maximum is tier 6). Sure, its active, but its not active in the capacity that ArenaNet originally intended.

The Hot Zones have alot of replayability because you need alot of achievements, currencies, collection items from there for legendary weapons, which will continue to be hot content and other long term goals, like legendary armor or trinkets.

Wanze.8410:

The Hot Zones have alot of replayability because you need alot of achievements, currencies, collection items from there for legendary weapons, which will continue to be hot content and other long term goals, like legendary armor or trinkets.

PoF will include all of this too; new stats, new ascended equipment (with LS4), new raids which can be used for legendary armor, new legendaries, etc. So your statement is really only true for people ~currently~ working on the HoT content.

Hannelore.8153:

Carighan.6758:

jojorne.2175:

With PoF does this means people will forget Core and HoT contents?
Each expansion will replace old content activities?

Yep! Exactly! Just as with HoT, since which the non-HoT zones and activities have been abandoned.

Ok, all joking aside, I am slightly worried what will happen as more and more landmass appears. We got 6 mini-maps (mostly abandoned now, granted, as they were never designed to be “real” maps) with LS3, stands to reason we’ll get another set with LS4. On top of that the expansion zones.

This is fine right now. Plenty population between all servers. But make it 2019, expansion 3, population further declined, and many many zones will start to feel rather … lonely.

Mostly, the only reason Central Tyria still has people in the maps is because of F2P and because of new players coming to the game. The number of people you’ll run into in these maps is still far lower than after megaserver update hit—unless it is a daily like event completer or a world boss or something.

HoT maps won’t benefit from F2P, or newer players, as they can skip to PoF. The zones already are abandoned compared to launch. I haven’t seen a tier 4 Verdant Brink meta complete since the first few months of HoT.

Its like saying Dry Top isn’t abandoned because it sometimes has a single map instance that manages to reach tier 4 (the maximum is tier 6). Sure, its active, but its not active in the capacity that ArenaNet originally intended.

Just like Dry Top if you want to get into a Tier 4 Verdant Brink map you need to use the LFG tool because whilst there might only be 1 map doing it that one is full enough that the game won’t drop random people into it – they’ll go into other, less busy, copies.

I suspect that will be the answer for all the maps. Fortunately most things do go to one extreme or the other – either you can do it solo or you need a big, organised group. It just means for the group stuff people will need to plan ahead a bit – decide to do it, find a group and build the map up instead of hoping to drop in to a map that’s already progressed thanks to the sheer number of players, do the thing/s they wanted and then leave again.

Hannelore.8153:

Wanze.8410:

The Hot Zones have alot of replayability because you need alot of achievements, currencies, collection items from there for legendary weapons, which will continue to be hot content and other long term goals, like legendary armor or trinkets.

PoF will include all of this too; new stats, new ascended equipment (with LS4), new raids which can be used for legendary armor, new legendaries, etc. So your statement is really only true for people ~currently~ working on the HoT content.

False, completely false.

The legendary armor REQUIRES you to do HoT for a number of materials; they expressly stated they won’t be releasing new legendary armor with the expansion or in the foreseeable future.

This means; if the map metas are abandoned then it will be increasingly hard to get the materials required to do legendaries, which is exactly what the OP was pointing out.

Why would ArenaNet add HoT materials into PoF?

Kreejaffa.3682:

Maybe by expansion 3 or 4, we will get heroes and henchmen again!

I’m kidding. That will never happen.

well that would be interesting i dropped HoT campaing cause some maps were dead and events were taking a while.
And as a WvW mainly player…. i only havemy guardian gear set for WvW wich means i wont make damage to some mobs in pve dps race meta…

Enchies would be apreciated

I would expect some buffs to hot metas just fkr ppl to be able to either get their kitten faster or complete it smoothler with less ppl.

Carighan.6758:

jojorne.2175:

With PoF does this means people will forget Core and HoT contents?
Each expansion will replace old content activities?

Yep! Exactly! Just as with HoT, since which the non-HoT zones and activities have been abandoned.

Ok, all joking aside, I am slightly worried what will happen as more and more landmass appears. We got 6 mini-maps (mostly abandoned now, granted, as they were never designed to be “real” maps) with LS3, stands to reason we’ll get another set with LS4. On top of that the expansion zones.

This is fine right now. Plenty population between all servers. But make it 2019, expansion 3, population further declined, and many many zones will start to feel rather … lonely.

GW2’s population is not on the decline. It has risen since it went F2P and again when HoT came out. With the megaserver system in place I doubt any zone that might be of interest for lvl 80 players won’t ever be empty, no matter how many expansions. People are still doing Orr maps, Dry Top, Silver Wastes, vanilla world bosses, and of course the HoT maps. I rarely, if ever, run into an empty Tequatl map unless I’m too late. I still see people putting up Dry Top T4 or higher maps on the LFG. I still see people farming The Silver Wastes. Even Auric Basin still gets love despite the massive loot nerf.

I wouldn’t be worried about older end-game maps running empty anytime soon.

People are still doing stuff in Dry Top, and not even on “daily days”. That alone should tell you the population is fine.

with the announcement of PoF
Ive seen a population boom on my server. All maps have been well populated, enough to do every event.