Guild Wars 2

First off, let me say that i have played GW1 + purchased all expansions except the last one so i do have an idea of what was and what is, in the world of guild wars. Second, i have put over 500 hours into gw2 and currently leading a small guild. I have been really enjoying my game time regardless of some bugs and minor issues. Yet…

My issue is with how the new direction of the game is affecting me and many other players. The issue is mostly in terms of in game economy. A couple of things happened that really bothered me and I’ve felt an emotion that i never would have expected to feel in a F2P MMO, “Cheated”. Yes, that’s right. I feel cheated. Want to know why?

1) We have no means to casually earn game gold for any small to mediocre purchases within the game such as the T3 cultural set, and other items. This is so, because our means of farming for gold through events has been eradicated and this has taken place as stealthily as possible with no notice what so ever. All we know is that Anet does not want us to farm because its repetitive.

Who are you to tell me whats repetitive or not? That is my decision, not yours. And since a lot of the bots are gone, why is the DR still in place?

2) We are introduced with a different type of grind, cascaded as ascended gear, which literally will render dozens of gold i’ve spent to get my exotic gear sets and skins useless. Eventually there will be whole new tiers of gear people will obtain through endless hours of gameplay and will have an unfair advantage in wvw, which is something i really enjoy doing.

3) The gem store. The big picture. This is where i feel cheated. I feel as i am directed there for my purchasing needs, not as a possible choice but as the ultimate one. But have you seen your $ -> gem prices Anet? Who in their sane mind will pay $1 for 80s? Not only you cut our in game gold income but you present us with a system which is basically beyond rip off? Have you noticed your little graph in the gem store going up? Currently:
a) 1 USD equals 80s
b) 1 gold = 85 gems

Enjoy it while it lasts but you aren’t getting a single cent from me. Not now, not ever

The DR was never meant for bots, but for players, so they spend more real $ for gems, and therefore for gold.

Maybe they should have gone with a P2P model from the get go and let us do what we wanna do…

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Ath.2531:

Who are you to tell me whats repetitive or not?

They are the game designers, who tell you everything about the game. If they wanted to call green in their game “yellow”, they would be within their rights.

In this case, grinders farming over and over would be bad for the community as a whole, since it would add a lot of gold in the economy and thus increase prices for all the real players (the people who are more interested in having fun instead of grinding). The DR system and all the limits to farming are thus great, as they both punish grinders and help players.

Cant believe you just notice it now. I notice it 30 min after the patch was applied. 2 Orr event with higher than usual drop rates of porous bone. Guess people are slowly waking up and believing it.

Derk.3189:

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at such a horrible rate.

I just buy and flip items on the market honestly. It slow and since I do not know a lot about end game crafting, it’s mostly gear I know people use.

I’d P2P if they ripped out this last patch and started taking their meds again.

Erasculio.2914:

Ath.2531:

Who are you to tell me whats repetitive or not?

They are the game designers, who tell you everything about the game. If they wanted to call green in their game “yellow”, they would be within their rights.

In this case, grinders farming over and over would be bad for the community as a whole, since it would add a lot of gold in the economy and thus increase prices for all the real players (the people who are more interested in having fun instead of grinding). The DR system and all the limits to farming are thus great, as they both punish grinders and help players.

I really hope you’re trolling. If you took more than 3 seconds to think about it, you would realize that a healthy amount of legitimate grinders is actually what keeps your market stable and prevents Inflation by bringing more items in the TP. I wanna see how much fun you will have when you wanna go buy an exotic piece for 10g that used to be 1g because a few people are monopolizing the TP. As a fact it’s already happened. A full draconic Berserker’s set has moved from around 10g to 25g since the patch hit. A lot of other gear also.

And, who said that casually doing a few events every now and then for rare drops is not fun? It sure is for me, and the means to achieve my ends in the game, as far as gear and skins are concerned.

Enjoy your FoTM grind if you can find a group. Oh also, and your great Gem store prices which have skyrocketed also.

Tifa Lockheart Ex.9614:

Cant believe you just notice it now. I notice it 30 min after the patch was applied. 2 Orr event with higher than usual drop rates of porous bone. Guess people are slowly waking up and believing it.

I’ve been noticing it for quite a while but never before i had been so furious to make a post about it.

You’re not supposed to make gold, you’re supposed to buy it.

If some people get to some part of the game and start grinding gold in numbers you won’t get anywhere else, they’ll be able to pay more than others, and prices will raise.
That’s inflation, and it’s bad, because then everyone will feel forced to do the same grindy farms to catch with those who do that already in terms of income.

Some players doing something that gets them way more wealth per hour than others is what’s to be addressed.

But why do people go to grind those events? Because the rest of orr is simply ridiculous. Each person kills 3 orrians, 5 more appear. champions taking ages to kill that then give no reward.
Players will naturally fall to the fastest way to get wealth, when they should be going to many places and doing different things.
THAT is what to be addressed, not bringing back grind to the equation.

Heheh welcome to the club of unhappy players in protest against the new patch and stealthy nerf.

What do you need the gold for anyway? I’m lvl 80 sitting at 5-8g for 2 weeks already and am having more fun than 90% of the board here apparently :S

Ath.2531:

A full draconic Berserker’s set has moved from around 10g to 25g since the patch hit. A lot of other gear also.

Bullkitten at 14th November before patch Draconic Berserker’s set costed around 19g. You right that prices increased, but not as much as you say. Exotics armour are for now the highest end-game armour and25g is around week or two of gathering gold without any grinding and playing only few hours daily. And we talk about end game gear…

And i don’t see your reasoning. The reason prices increased are because people can pay more for that equip and it can sell for more. It would actually prove that gold is easier to earn. If getting gold would become harder all prices would actually decrease since value of gold would increase.

If they would make grinding for gold easier prices would increase even further. And blocking grinding is there to stop increasing prices.

MithranArkanere.8957:

Players will naturally fall to the fastest way to get wealth, when they should be going to many places and doing different things.

They should be? who are you to define what everyone should be doing? In your own logic you are applying a set of rules that you believe everyone “SHOULD” be doing, thus giving us your own version of what is fun, which is not for everyone.

In your statement you actually show the real solution to the issue, that more challenging mobs are less rewarding. So what do they do? they bring the loot quality of normal lvl 80-84 mobs to an abysmal level so that every possible means of making gold is obsolete. The consequences?

Let me break it down for you:
1) Farming is nerfed
2) People flood the gem store for gold
3) Gem prices inflate, requiring much more real money per gold
4) The market has no influx of new gear coming in because there is no farming, thus, mats and gear will also have inflated prices.
5) ascended gear are introduced, requiring 25-75g per piece to get.
6) It costs dozens of times to get what you used to, pre nerf.
7) Want proof? Watch the news and spend some time thinking what happens to real world economies.
8) make a sandwitch and have a cup of coffee.
9) come back tomorrow to admit that you have no idea what you were talking about and that i have helped you find the nirvana of economics 101.

Farming is nerfed, and yet I’ve made more gold in the last week than I’ve made in well over a month of casual play.

Hrm….gonna go out on a limb and say that maybe you’re not being entirely truthful.

maximus.8635:

Tifa Lockheart Ex.9614:

Cant believe you just notice it now. I notice it 30 min after the patch was applied. 2 Orr event with higher than usual drop rates of porous bone. Guess people are slowly waking up and believing it.

This is a direct result of Nexon getting 15% interest in GW2.

I am not gonna go as far to say that and i am not a conspiracy theorist in any sense. All i want is a chance in a game that isn’t pay to win

Ath.2531:

Let me break it down for you:
1) Farming is nerfed
2) People flood the gem store for gold
3) Gem prices inflate, requiring much more real money per gold
4) The market has no influx of new gear coming in because there is no farming, thus, mats and gear will also have inflated prices.
5) ascended gear are introduced, requiring 25-75g per piece to get.
6) It costs dozens of times to get what you used to, pre nerf.
7) Want proof? Watch the news and spend some time thinking what happens to real world economies.
8) make a sandwitch and have a cup of coffee.
9) come back tomorrow to admit that you have no idea what you were talking about and that i have helped you find the nirvana of economics 101.

1) So you say.
2)You mean buy gems to convert them to gold, right?
3) It’s actually otherwise. The number of gold you can acquire from 1$ is steadly increasing.
4) So you say. And since the princes of mats increased so profit/gold from getting mats(farming) also increased. So you earn more gold from farming. So people start farming again…
5) They new. As more people start doing higher lvl of Fractals prices would decrease. And it’s mostly because many ascended gear is account bound.
6) So you say. I earn more then before. Maybe it’s your farming spot is outdated, and there is a better way/place to earn gold?
7) You too…
8) No thanks.
9) (<.<)