Guild Wars 2

I think the new ascended gear will have something thats time-restricted rather than luck based.

So you know those [Enchanted Crystal Quartz] that you can only make 1 of at a skill point each day? They’re a time-limiting reagent.

And something else, like an egg or something that has a timer, and you need to start it, and it will hatch in X-days.

And maybe something that requires feeding, so each day you should log in and feed it til it reaches X-potency.

This would reduce the RNG element a little but still make them a very significant -longterm investment.

What would your method be? How do you think you should get the new Ascended gear?

While I know it’s never going to happen, I kinda want Ascended Weapons/Armor to be acquired by completing specific very difficult content. Like Liadri, but much harder. That way, actually getting ascended gear would be an achievement.

Other than that, I don’t really care. Just don’t make it some sort of money-sink. I can just imagine all the ascended gear being available for large sums of gold, so large that only zerg-farmers, TP-farmers or exploiters have a chance of getting it. Yikes.

Ultimately, if the acquisition includes playing the game in any sort of skillful manner, I’d be fine with that. I’d even be fine with a "Fractal-Equivalent".

I’d rather it not exist at all, but it should be either the fast, difficult way, or the slow but trivial way as usual. It should not be exclusive.

• Completing difficult content. Say high level fractals would reward a random ascended piece, but now ascended armor too. Obviously it should apply to more places. New content could be made queen’s gauntlet style, etc for a guaranteed ascended piece. This should not be time gated. You would acquire it quickly if you are skilled. And obviously challenges should be varied and jumping puzzles could reward them.

• Standard time gated laurel, guild commendation, another currency, dungeon tokens, grindfest. Account Bound.

• Karma (soulbound), badges (no really, please), WvW chests. As a wvw player, this is of course what I really want. We don’t want to spend hundreds of hours doing worthless pve grinding especially when this tier impacts us.

• 1 Random piece of one for each Monthly (Make monthlies harder). Account Bound.

• Free choice of one ascended piece per each level 80 character’s birthday. This helps level out the baseline for everyone that doesn’t want to grind. This also helps people with alts. Naturally, this is soulbound.

• Crafting (I really hate crafting, but it should still be an option).

• Randomly Drops in 70-80 zones (Must make 70-80 zones harder) and gated daily.

• Except as stated, I do not want account bound. I think it’s I should be able to pay whatever price people demand so I don’t have to do any of this. You can buy a legendary on the TP. Why not this?

I don’t want to get it. This game doesn’t need it. The players don’t need it. But ArenaNet seems to think that they need it or this game will die on the vine.

You’d think they’d have worked out by now that if this game is going to die, it’s because of things like grind and ascended gear, the alienation by the studio, and ArenaNet’s complete disconnection from their community and not due to the lack thereof.

Which tells me that making a good, fun game is pretty far down on their priority list.

But it doesn’t matter. We’re getting the gear. If you want it, you get a nice timegated grind. All that’s pretty much set in stone. No point asking opinions here – ArenaNet has been ignoring them since November.

Enjoy your gear grind.

Jatacid.3725:

What would your method be? How do you think you should get the new Ascended gear?

As fast and easy as possible. I do not enjoy regearing.

1. Walk into a major city
2. Run up to Armorsmith vendor
3. Buy a set for 5 gold

I haven’t played GW2 since last November, so I don’t know how easy 5 gold are to come buy today. You know, just make that ‘5 gold’ into however long it took to get 5 plat in GW1 one year into its life.

Astralporing.1957:

As fast and easy as possible. I do not enjoy regearing.

I feel the same, honestly. The fun part of this game for me isn’t doing the annoying treadmill to acquire every little piece of new gear, it’s enjoying endgame with that gear.

Each piece must be gained by a different way/

1 for WvW
1 for PVP
1 for Pve
1 for JP
1 with gold (pure rng)
1 with crafting
Ect…

From Dungeon armors specific sellers that are in LA and from armor sellers npc in wvw:
Each selling specific ascended skin armor, each armor parts price:
250 dungeons tokens (LA) OR 250 wvw badges (wvw) + 25 laurels + 250 000 karma +100 ectoplasms globs + 100 SP + 25gold PER ascended armor part and weapon.

Sil.4560:

Astralporing.1957:

As fast and easy as possible. I do not enjoy regearing.

I feel the same, honestly. The fun part of this game for me isn’t doing the annoying treadmill to acquire every little piece of new gear, it’s enjoying endgame with that gear.

Agreed.

I guess if I have to choose though. I’d say as many different ways as possible. We have multiple currencies and multiple ways to level and play the game, getting end game gear should reflect that.

playandchill.3908:

1 for PVP

PvP has no place in the gear I acquire for PvE. They are entirely separate and I have absolutely zero interest in seeing them crossed.

I think no matter how they introduce ascended armour/weapons there’s going to be dozens and dozens of complaint threads…

Haven’t they already dropped heavy hints its going to be from getting crafting to 500 and then crafting ascended weapons and armour? Which are going to cost a arm and a leg, so if you can sell them on the TP, going to be very, very expensive gold wise?

For me, simple, No RNG… or if there be RNG, it’s not the only way. I have no problem with them doing it like how they do Ascended RINGS, or to a point amulet. Time gating is the lesser of two evils compared to RNG, for me. Ascended EARRINGS annoy me a little bit with this silly idea of using TWO currencies. (gold + commendations, or laurels + Ectos) but still ill bite, grudgingly a bit.

Best have multiple ways to get them, not just one.

Having said that, be reasonable with the price and /or duration. putting one armor piece at a BAZILLION currency or even worse, a costing it freakish-load of a currency which u can earn ONE a day, is just punishing players.

WvW badges+laurels. Maybe add a third currency like karma or gold.
And something for PvE. Fractals, laurels, dungeon tokens? There’s a lot of possibilities for PvE.

I just want full gear locker where i just can take what i need. Free of course.

There should be multiple avenues to it, with time (such as laurels or once-a-day crafting recipes) being reserved for people who are unwilling or unable to gain the gear any other way.

So, high end fractals, an EQ-style epic quest, the current legendary crafting method, WvW, even winning solo/team arenas in sPvP (why not? It doesn’t create a PvP advantage and it’d bring more people into sPvP) can all be viable methods.

How about an epic multi-stage jumping puzzle that you can only attempt once a day?

playandchill.3908:

Each piece must be gained by a different way/

1 for WvW
1 for PVP
1 for Pve
1 for JP
1 with gold (pure rng)
1 with crafting
Ect…

I actually really like this idea, except for the RNG portion of it. That would entice players to play all aspects of the game in order to acquire their BiS gear. However, I would also like it if they added the same functionality they are planning to do with the legendary weapons. Enable it so you can swap the stats of the items at will, allowing you to completely re-customize a characters build without the need for spending money/badges/karma/etc in order to get a new set. (Only to find out you do not like this new play style and just feel disappointed.) Also, make these items account bound so you can swap between characters at will, without feeling obligated to play the “best geared.”

Karma and crafting

Since we’re here to entertain ourselves with the offering of ideas that we know Anet doesn’t give two rats’ kitten about, I’ll put my two cents in. How about NO ASCENDED ARMOR . That’s right, they’re already throwing embarrassing amounts of time gated nonsense and RNG at us (which I have no doubt will be involved in acquisition of said gear), now the game they touted as “innovative” is going down the same road of every kitteny MMO that I’ve quit because I abhor gear treadmills.
It’s clear they weren’t satisfied with what GW1 gave them, but what’s best for Anet isn’t best for me.

I’d prefer to see some of the key MATERIALS / recipes for it tied directly to Karma more than to money or laurels or some other BS currency that we don’t need any more timegating on. …especially if the Items you bought with Karma were scattered throughout the world like a Scavenger hunt that could only be bought when you completed a series of Dynamic Events. ….And honestly this is Anet’s last chance to make DE’s relevant once more. If they don’t do something soon, then most people will give up for good and all that will be left are the MinMax farmers & status chasers.

Chuo.4238:

I don’t want to get it. This game doesn’t need it. The players don’t need it. But ArenaNet seems to think that they need it or this game will die on the vine.

You’d think they’d have worked out by now that if this game is going to die, it’s because of things like grind and ascended gear, the alienation by the studio, and ArenaNet’s complete disconnection from their community and not due to the lack thereof.

Which tells me that making a good, fun game is pretty far down on their priority list.

But it doesn’t matter. We’re getting the gear. If you want it, you get a nice timegated grind. All that’s pretty much set in stone. No point asking opinions here – ArenaNet has been ignoring them since November.

Enjoy your gear grind.

I want it…

Now I can understand where you’re coming from with the slippery slope business. But the game does need ascended gear when you think about it.

As it stands once you reach Lv80 you can just take some 10-15 minutes of your time to gear out your character with the most powerful armor available (Exotics).

Ascended fills a really big hole in GW2: challenge or a goal. The armor itself gives a rather small increase in stats so it’s not a requirement to get through any part of the game (maybe except high level Fractals, but if you’re doing that odds are you’d want ascended gear anyway).

But for those who actually want those max stats, ascended gear gives us something to work towards. Everything requires a bit of challenge with a bit of time. The amulets, rings, accessories all have a slightly different way of being obtained but all of them require time and gameplay, instead of just clicking a button and buying them instantly.

The problem becomes when they add another tier of gear (not counting legendary, which already exists). But they already said they wouldn’t, and it’s pointless to fret over something that doesn’t exist, especially when you have no reason to believe it will exist in the future.

Also, I do hope the ascended items introduced will all be account bound – like the accessories and such.

While I don’t particularly fancy the idea of items you work for being account bound, if they weren’t it would completely fail the entire purpose of ascended items.

Which is why I kind of have no doubt they will all be account bound.

The real deal with ascended items is the fact they’re generally hard to get, unlike exotics. The actual stat change isn’t really real, it’s not required. So if you could just sit back, click a button and buy one off the TP the whole significance of it would be gone.

Edit; I’m already a bit disappointed at the fact Legendary items aren’t account bound. The fact you can just buy a lot of money and buy one off the TP kind of completely devalues it, even though it’s very expensive.

Delryn.7235:

Now I can understand where you’re coming from with the slippery slope business. But the game does need ascended gear when you think about it.

No, it doesn’t. If ArenaNet hadn’t introduced ascended stuff in the first place, nobody would talk about it and nobody would miss it. It would be all about skins and it would work as well.

Grileenor.1497:

Delryn.7235:

Now I can understand where you’re coming from with the slippery slope business. But the game does need ascended gear when you think about it.

No, it doesn’t. If ArenaNet hadn’t introduced ascended stuff in the first place, nobody would talk about it and nobody would miss it. It would be all about skins and it would work as well.

I had a hard time finding something to do before it was introduced. Once I reached Lv80 I got my stats and was done. I then worked on getting a full Arah armor for the look I wanted which I quickly achieved, then I had literally nothing left to work for since I didn’t care for the Legendaries.

Ascended gives us something to work for which really requires time and a bit of effort. Even a high level dungeon armor can be obtained fairly quickly.

Preferably like in GW1. 15k per piece and a handful of crafting mats. End.

Ascended gear should be available the same way as exotics are now.
Drops, karma, dungeons, crafting, WvW, fractals.

Delryn.7235:

Grileenor.1497:

Delryn.7235:

Now I can understand where you’re coming from with the slippery slope business. But the game does need ascended gear when you think about it.

No, it doesn’t. If ArenaNet hadn’t introduced ascended stuff in the first place, nobody would talk about it and nobody would miss it. It would be all about skins and it would work as well.

I had a hard time finding something to do before it was introduced. Once I reached Lv80 I got my stats and was done. I then worked on getting a full Arah armor for the look I wanted which I quickly achieved, then I had literally nothing left to work for since I didn’t care for the Legendaries.

Ascended gives us something to work for which really requires time and a bit of effort. Even a high level dungeon armor can be obtained fairly quickly.

So you get bored when you don’t have stats to grind for? Is there nothing else to do that you would find fun?
Also, the time and effort for ascended is simply to login and complete 5 menial tasks everyday.

With Karma.

Its the most widely rewarded currency in the game.

Striker.9413:

Ascended gear should be available the same way as exotics are now.
Drops, karma, dungeons, crafting, WvW, fractals.

Delryn.7235:

Grileenor.1497:

Delryn.7235:

Now I can understand where you’re coming from with the slippery slope business. But the game does need ascended gear when you think about it.

No, it doesn’t. If ArenaNet hadn’t introduced ascended stuff in the first place, nobody would talk about it and nobody would miss it. It would be all about skins and it would work as well.

I had a hard time finding something to do before it was introduced. Once I reached Lv80 I got my stats and was done. I then worked on getting a full Arah armor for the look I wanted which I quickly achieved, then I had literally nothing left to work for since I didn’t care for the Legendaries.

Ascended gives us something to work for which really requires time and a bit of effort. Even a high level dungeon armor can be obtained fairly quickly.

So you get bored when you don’t have stats to grind for? Is there nothing else to do that you would find fun?
Also, the time and effort for ascended is simply to login and complete 5 menial tasks everyday.

Of course not. There’s a lot to do that I find fun.

What I mean is that the game was missing gear that felt epic and required more than a button click.

Though you can get amulets, accessories, and rings with laurels, both accessories and rings are really not worth getting with laurels. I wouldn’t be crazy enough to actually spend laurels, which is such a precious currency, on accessories and rings.

Accessories require a large guild to coordinate and complete difficult tasks to get the commendations.

Rings require completing higher level fractals to be obtained.

All more fun, entertaining and engaging than just buying something off the TP. In fact even with laurels it’s still more fun and engaging than just buying something off the TP.

After ascended gear, we’ll get a 5 level max level increase. Then Dominator Gear! Then maybe a new race, combined with 5 more levels (all the way to 90!). Following this will be Godly Gear!

I can’t wait!

Delryn.7235:

Striker.9413:

Ascended gear should be available the same way as exotics are now.
Drops, karma, dungeons, crafting, WvW, fractals.

Delryn.7235:

Grileenor.1497:

Delryn.7235:

Now I can understand where you’re coming from with the slippery slope business. But the game does need ascended gear when you think about it.

No, it doesn’t. If ArenaNet hadn’t introduced ascended stuff in the first place, nobody would talk about it and nobody would miss it. It would be all about skins and it would work as well.

I had a hard time finding something to do before it was introduced. Once I reached Lv80 I got my stats and was done. I then worked on getting a full Arah armor for the look I wanted which I quickly achieved, then I had literally nothing left to work for since I didn’t care for the Legendaries.

Ascended gives us something to work for which really requires time and a bit of effort. Even a high level dungeon armor can be obtained fairly quickly.

So you get bored when you don’t have stats to grind for? Is there nothing else to do that you would find fun?
Also, the time and effort for ascended is simply to login and complete 5 menial tasks everyday.

Of course not. There’s a lot to do that I find fun.

What I mean is that the game was missing gear that felt epic and required more than a button click.

Though you can get amulets, accessories, and rings with laurels, both accessories and rings are really not worth getting with laurels. I wouldn’t be crazy enough to actually spend laurels, which is such a precious currency, on accessories and rings.

Accessories require a large guild to coordinate and complete difficult tasks to get the commendations.

Rings require completing higher level fractals to be obtained.

All more fun, entertaining and engaging than just buying something off the TP.

No doubt fractals and guild missions are fun. That’s why you should do them. But ascended gear shouldn’t be exclusive to this type of content. Rings, amulets, accessories, backpieces, and the new armor should all be available through fractals, commendations, and even laurels. They should also be made available through dungeon tokens, karma, crafting, and even make some sellable.

In fact even with laurels it’s still more fun and engaging than just buying something off the TP.

I disagree. I get just as much fun buying from TP as buying from the laurel vendor; which is none.

I think they should make ascended gear like rings and earrings saleable on the TP and then make the backpiece and the amulet something you have to work for. Most of the ascended gear isnt too hard to get its just artificially time gated. Dailys take a day and monthlys take a month. Fractals are also gated because you only get pristine once a day per tier. However what they have done with the fractal backpiece in that you need the globs and vials of mist essence in order to get it to asceneded and infuse Is a pretty good idea because it shows you have done multiple fractals. The reason why rings and earrings should be sold is because for people with many alts getting full ascended is a ridiculous task and a gear grind that the devs said we wouldnt have

Astralporing.1957:

Jatacid.3725:

What would your method be? How do you think you should get the new Ascended gear?

As fast and easy as possible. I do not enjoy regearing.

This, tbh i’d like to log in and see my set waiting for me on each character, some how doubt this will happen though, Anet loves epic grinds too much..