Guild Wars 2

I’m curious how Burn works… if I start the debuff and other people apply burn it increases the duration. But will it always be the person who put up the first one that gets the damage (based off their condition)?

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Burn

I believe that the most potent fire damage effect takes precedence.

For example:
I inflict Burn on a boss that does 600 damage per second and lasts for 10 seconds.
One second later you come along and inflict Burn on the same boss that does 601 damage per second for 10 seconds. My damage gets replaced by your damage so I will no longer see the 600 ticks but you will see 601 ticks.
If I then apply another 600 over 10, it will extend the duration by 10 seconds and will resume my 600 ticks after your 601 ends.

Atherakhia.4086:

I’m curious how Burn works… if I start the debuff and other people apply burn it increases the duration. But will it always be the person who put up the first one that gets the damage (based off their condition)?

Burning seems to stack just like bleeds but for some reason the information is invisable to the player.

I’ll try to illustrate.
3 skills
The Prestige Burningx1: 3 s (984 damage)
Drake’s Breath Burningx4: 3 s (3936 damage)
Blowtorch Burningx3: 2 s (1968 damage)

If these three skills are applied at the same time (and used as often as possible) the understanding is this will happen.

• Burning icon on target for 11 seconds
• Drakes breath damage at the top of the stack. dealing 3936 damage over the first 3 seconds.
• Blowtorch second in the stack. dealing 1968 damage over the seconds 4 and 5.
• At five seconds drakes breath reapplied and set to the top of the stack again. dealing 3936 damage over seconds 6 – 8.
• The Prestige burns for 3 seconds dealing 984 damage.
• Burning Icon falls off target

Literally speaking it’s 12 stacks of burning
((0.25 * Condition Damage) + (4 * Level) + 8 ) multiplier
For some reason they don’t let us see that in the UI though.

Lokki.1092:

Atherakhia.4086:

I’m curious how Burn works… if I start the debuff and other people apply burn it increases the duration. But will it always be the person who put up the first one that gets the damage (based off their condition)?

Burning seems to stack just like bleeds but for some reason the information is invisable to the player.

I’ll try to illustrate.
3 skills
The Prestige Burningx1: 3 s (984 damage)
Drake’s Breath Burningx4: 3 s (3936 damage)
Blowtorch Burningx3: 2 s (1968 damage)

If these three skills are applied at the same time (and used as often as possible) the understanding is this will happen.

• Burning icon on target for 11 seconds
• Drakes breath damage at the top of the stack. dealing 3936 damage over the first 3 seconds.
• Blowtorch second in the stack. dealing 1968 damage over the seconds 4 and 5.
• At five seconds drakes breath reapplied and set to the top of the stack again. dealing 3936 damage over seconds 6 – 8.
• The Prestige burns for 3 seconds dealing 984 damage.
• Burning Icon falls off target

Literally speaking it’s 12 stacks of burning
((0.25 * Condition Damage) + (4 * Level) + 8 ) multiplier
For some reason they don’t let us see that in the UI though.

Incorrect. When something has 4x Burning, it doesn’t mean you apply a burn that does 4 times damage, it means you apply that 3s of burning for separate times. If all of those skills were used at the same moment, once all had stopped channeling, it would have applied 21 seconds of burning.

This is easily testable with Blowtorch: use it, and see how long the burning debuff lasts. It sure isn’t 2 seconds.

@OP: Applying burning to a target deals exactly as much damage as your tooltip says. Here’s how it works:

Bob applies 10 seconds of burning, and his burning deals 3000 damage (300 damage per second). After 5 seconds, Bob’s dealt 1500 damage, and there are 5 seconds of burning left on the target. However, at that point, Dave applies 5 seconds of burning, and since he has a ton of condition damage, his 5 seconds deal 3000 damage (600 damage per second). There are 10 seconds of burn on the target. Because Dave’s burn deals more damage, during the next five seconds, the target takes 600 damage per second. After those five seconds are up, Dave’s burn has worn off. Five seconds are left on the target, and as per Bob’s burning, the target takes 300 damage per second.

Or, if Bob dealt more damage than Dave:

Bob applies 10 seconds of burning, and his burning deals 6000 damage (600 damage per second). After 5 seconds, Bob’s dealt 3000 damage, and there are 5 seconds of burning left on the target. However, at that point, Dave applies 5 seconds of burning, and since he has very little condition damage, his 5 seconds deal 1500 damage (300 damage per second). There are 10 seconds of burn on the target. Because Bob’s burn deals more damage, during the next five seconds, the target takes 600 damage per second. After those five seconds are up, Bob’s burn has worn off. Five seconds are left on the target, and as per Dave’s burning, the target takes 300 damage per second.

Sylentir.8913:

Lokki.1092:

Atherakhia.4086:

I’m curious how Burn works… if I start the debuff and other people apply burn it increases the duration. But will it always be the person who put up the first one that gets the damage (based off their condition)?

Burning seems to stack just like bleeds but for some reason the information is invisable to the player.

I’ll try to illustrate.
3 skills
The Prestige Burningx1: 3 s (984 damage)
Drake’s Breath Burningx4: 3 s (3936 damage)
Blowtorch Burningx3: 2 s (1968 damage)

If these three skills are applied at the same time (and used as often as possible) the understanding is this will happen.

• Burning icon on target for 11 seconds
• Drakes breath damage at the top of the stack. dealing 3936 damage over the first 3 seconds.
• Blowtorch second in the stack. dealing 1968 damage over the seconds 4 and 5.
• At five seconds drakes breath reapplied and set to the top of the stack again. dealing 3936 damage over seconds 6 – 8.
• The Prestige burns for 3 seconds dealing 984 damage.
• Burning Icon falls off target

Literally speaking it’s 12 stacks of burning
((0.25 * Condition Damage) + (4 * Level) + 8 ) multiplier
For some reason they don’t let us see that in the UI though.

Incorrect. When something has 4x Burning, it doesn’t mean you apply a burn that does 4 times damage, it means you apply that 3s of burning for separate times. If all of those skills were used at the same moment, once all had stopped channeling, it would have applied 21 seconds of burning.

This is easily testable with Blowtorch: use it, and see how long the burning debuff lasts. It sure isn’t 2 seconds.

Right.

But take 2 blowtorches. Which engineer gets the credit for burning? The first one to apply burning and then the other just helps maintain his burn debuff? Does the one with more condition damage overlay their burn over the other and the roles reverse? That’s what my original question was trying to ask.

Atherakhia.4086:

Sylentir.8913:

SNIP

Right.

But take 2 blowtorches. Which engineer gets the credit for burning? The first one to apply burning and then the other just helps maintain his burn debuff? Does the one with more condition damage overlay their burn over the other and the roles reverse? That’s what my original question was trying to ask.

Sorry, I realized I didn’t answer that at first, and then edited my previous post to answer. I guess you responded while I was editing :P Each deals full damage, no more, no less.

Sylentir.8913:

Incorrect. When something has 4x Burning, it doesn’t mean you apply a burn that does 4 times damage, it means you apply that 3s of burning for separate times. If all of those skills were used at the same moment, once all had stopped channeling, it would have applied 21 seconds of burning.

Good catch, completely forgot about that.