I play too many mmos, and all where the same:
opening – “we are diferent then others”
6 monts – we implement this “unreequired” option for more competitive players cough cash spenders*cough*
9-12 months – if you wanna win you need to pay
We all see this new “progression” and we all know where that progression leads :pay to win. Question is how long?
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Take a look at GW 1…
They never where P2W! They know very well how to handle the cash shop!
It more or less just became it. Crafting a legendary requires gold, tons of gold, which you can buy. And they’re now officially the only gear tier that won’t be obsoleted stats-wise.
Buying gold with real money is the least efficient way to get gold. Aside from that, you will end up very poor very soon if that’s what you choose to do.
The game is not ‘pay to win’, nor will it ever be.
Seriously…people overreact too freaking much.
Take a look at GW 1…
They never where P2W! They know very well how to handle the cash shop!
This is the kind of thing I used to say to people who’d question if Guild Wars would ever have vertical gear progression after launch.
Um 300g is the ave for a legendary, you can make 10g a day pretty easily if you have time. I can only play about 2-3hrs and I can make 3-5g a day.
While spending real life money to get gems right now. TO get 300g you have to spend 300 hundred dollars.
Only a very few would even think about doing that.
Also since it not control by the people, it will never get badly inflated.
But who knows they might go down the p2w one day, but as of right now their no signs of it.
Never its Arenanet! Try to stop all this QQ topis…
Crafting a legendary isnt req as “better” item its just about skin…
When will ppl learn to know what is skin or what is stats on items…
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Afterall Anet isnt full to lose all players just cause as you say “p2w” items cause they have plans fore more expansion in future.
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Never its Arenanet! Try to stop all this QQ topis…
Crafting a legendary isnt req as “better” item its just about skin…
When will ppl learn to know what is skin or what is stats on items…
I don’t believe that will be the case after the patch. They are bolstering legendary weapons up to match the new tiers level if my comprehension of their latest info is correct.
Good thing you didn’t mention ‘Ascended’ or this thread would have been folded in with the rest. Forums are being filtered and Moderated by keyword now.
I think this is the first step into P2W as you put it. Legendaries are tough enough… but doable… I think Anet realized that folks were willing to play long enough to get to it without buying huge sums of gems…
This latest attempt is a fresh start on that objective. Wouldn’t surprise me a bit if Nexxon (who bought a substantial chunk of NCsoft (Anet) stock didn’t contribute heavily to its development.
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P2P was never Anet’s way.What ridiculous idea you suggest.
Never its Arenanet! Try to stop all this QQ topis…
Crafting a legendary isnt req as “better” item its just about skin…
When will ppl learn to know what is skin or what is stats on items…I don’t believe that will be the case after the patch. They are bolstering legendary weapons up to match the new tiers level if my comprehension of their latest info is correct.
Still you will have change to get new weapons via dungeons, tokens… etc with same stats.
It more or less just became it. Crafting a legendary requires gold, tons of gold, which you can buy. And they’re now officially the only gear tier that won’t be obsoleted stats-wise.
Pay 2 Win implies that you HAVE to spend money to win. Legendary weapons are no better stats wise than whatever the top gear in the game is, which is easily attainable through a variety of means.
Currently that is Exotics, which can be attained through crafting/dungeons/karma or the TP.
On release of the Ascended weapons in the future, it’ll be ascended weapons that arguably are the best and the legendary weapons stats will reflect those.
These ascended items will also be obtainable in exactly the same means as the exotic weapons (in time). As stated by the recent forum post.
Whilst paying cash for gems, conveniences the player by allowing them to purchase said items with real money, only speeds up the process therefore they gain no significant advantage over anybody else by doing so, and therefore is not “Play to Win”
We also don’t know how infusions will be implemented, and if they are dungeon specific and if they are or aren’t attainable in any other means than in the dungeon itself, meaning no amount of money spent will allow any advantage in the acquisition of infusions.
Never its Arenanet! Try to stop all this QQ topis…
Crafting a legendary isnt req as “better” item its just about skin…
When will ppl learn to know what is skin or what is stats on items…I don’t believe that will be the case after the patch. They are bolstering legendary weapons up to match the new tiers level if my comprehension of their latest info is correct.
Still you will have change to get new weapons via dungeons, tokens… etc with same stats.
hmm, but they arent releasing the new tier weapons with this patch, it may be months before they are introduced.
They are unclear as the when a legendary weapons stats will be boosted. Will it be tomorrow? When their comperable weapon type in the new tier is introduced? I don’t know, but those with legendaries may have the upper hand for some months to come.
Never its Arenanet! Try to stop all this QQ topis…
Crafting a legendary isnt req as “better” item its just about skin…
When will ppl learn to know what is skin or what is stats on items…I don’t believe that will be the case after the patch. They are bolstering legendary weapons up to match the new tiers level if my comprehension of their latest info is correct.
Still you will have change to get new weapons via dungeons, tokens… etc with same stats.
hmm, but they arent releasing the new tier weapons with this patch, it may be months before they are introduced.
They are unclear as the when a legendary weapons stats will be boosted. Will it be tomorrow? When their comperable weapon type in the new tier is introduced? I don’t know, but those with legendaries may have the upper hand for some months to come.
There is no way they are going to improve legendary items before players can obtain equal stated items elsewhere in the game. They said as much in the original blog post.
“So fear not, all existing Legendary weapons, which are currently on par with Exotics, will be upgraded to be on par with Ascended weapons at the same time that we add Ascended weapons to the game. Thus Legendaries will remain “best-in-slot” items.”
I play too many mmos, and all where the same:
opening – “we are diferent then others”
6 monts – we implement this “unreequired” option for more competitive players cough cash spenders*cough*
9-12 months – if you wanna win you need to payWe all see this new “progression” and we all know where that progression leads :pay to win. Question is how long?
(not to mention how many minutes it takes for this post to be deleted)
Didnt you see the fighting costumes at the gemstore?
Witch its totally OP compared with other costumes, plus they can use utilities.
We already have a p2w game.
I’m more worried about the fact that the Mystic Forge will be required to get these “fine” infusions.
As we all know the Mystic Forge is right now just a massive cash dump, with items to make it more convenient in the cash shop.
It more or less just became it. Crafting a legendary requires gold, tons of gold, which you can buy. And they’re now officially the only gear tier that won’t be obsoleted stats-wise.
Legendaries won’t have any different stats than ascended, which will be acquirable in game without gems. And besides, the stat boost is minor on the best of days—did you see the new pics of the items? A precision/power item that’s level 80 has about 5 more precision/power if it’s ascended than an exotic. Even if we could only get ascended items through cash shop, it still wouldn’t be pay to win. And we can get ascended items without the cash shop.
I play too many mmos, and all where the same:
opening – “we are diferent then others”
6 monts – we implement this “unreequired” option for more competitive players cough cash spenders*cough*
9-12 months – if you wanna win you need to payWe all see this new “progression” and we all know where that progression leads :pay to win. Question is how long?
(not to mention how many minutes it takes for this post to be deleted)
Didnt you see the fighting costumes at the gemstore?
Witch its totally OP compared with other costumes, plus they can use utilities.We already have a p2w game.
That was a mini game, the Witch was only a convenience, it had very little effect after Halloween was over.
If people want to spend real money for convenience, let them.
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Hello,
There won’t be any “pay to win” system in GW2. This is absolutely against our philosophy of having fun in a game. The shop is only here to buy things that are not a must have in order to evolve and enjoy Guild Wars 2 at its maximum potential, and it will stay like this.
I close this thread.
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