Guild Wars 2

the whole legendary/precursor thing is dampening the game for me. They need some other goals that dont require mostly TP based gameplay. I play an adventure rpg to simulate you know, adventure, not the stock market. Or gold hunter X. And if we are going to make the game about gambling, at least jazz it up, give me a casino and dueling self bets, roulette wheels blackjack, poker, least you feel like you have some control in these games of chance.

mystic forge is basically slots, the least fun game in the casino.

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SadieDeAtreia.8912:

Scavenger hunt thread:

ColinJohanson.2394:

Hey guys,

Just a quick update on where the whole scavenger hunt system stands since I know that’s a topic many of you have brought up recently. We’re not currently actively working on building any sort of legendary precursor scavenger hunt, this is something we want to do in the future and we’re in the midst of designing how this would function, but no one is actively building this feature and you should not expect in the Jan/Feb/March releases at this point.

We are however working on expanding reward systems to make them more re-rewarding across all parts of the game, making the open world more rewarding, and adding new ways you can earn precursors as rewards via new reward systems taking advantage of our open persistent world.

Some of these additions will come as early as the January release, and will get covered in more detail in the next week or two as well release all the details about this release once testing has signed off it’s all ready to go in January. (we’ll also provide a high level summary of our goals with reward systems, etc. in our 2013 blog post, which should be out next week)

Source

Now:

I just want to quickly clarify to set expectations, nothing in the blog post, nor nothing we’ve said anywhere has said you will be able to buy precursor items directly for crowns, this is not the case. We’ve simply said we’ll try and find some other places to add a chance to get them to the game until we’ve implemented the eventual precursor scavenger hunt.

Long term we’ll be working on the scavenger hunt concept to track down and earn a precursor item as a direct form of earning the reward. We’ll discuss that in more detail in the future once a design and implementation has been finalized.

Thoughts?

I’m beginning to think people can’t read anymore. Or at least don’t comprehend what they’re reading.

Colin is 100% correct. Nowhere did he say, nor imply you’d get precursors for crowns. New rewards systems does not mean from achievement rewards. Just because you assumed that was it, doesn’t mean it is. You know what they say about assuming.

Now, do people also notice that pesky s at the end of systems? An s at the end of noun means more than one. So more than one reward system. People need to stop reading so deep into what they say, because you’ll probably be wrong and then we have people kitten because they assumed the devs said something when they really didn’t.

Is it not, perhaps, incorrect for you to assume that the achievement awards is the only reason for the kittening?

This precursor fiasco has been going on since launch with some people waiting for months now to complete their legendaries.

With that in mind, do you think it is a good idea to state that: “We are however working on expanding reward systems to make them more re-rewarding across all parts of the game, making the open world more rewarding, and adding new ways you can earn precursors as rewards via new reward systems taking advantage of our open persistent world.” thus, putting renewed hope in the hearts of many who have been patiently waiting on a fix (however temporary), then follow it up with “We’ve simply said we’ll try and find some other places to add a chance to get them”?

Thoughts?

In this situation, my response was only to this thread, and people twisting devs words. Not the precursor situation. So there is no assumption on my part.

These two statements are not contradictory. They said they are working on it. In other words…not set in stone. Then he said they’re trying to add it in. I see no statement that said they ARE adding them in. Simply they will try, and are working on it.

Again, people are reading WAY too much into these statements. This is why devs don’t give information. We assume what they mean, twist them to suit what we want, then scream they’re lying when they say it’s not what they meant or said.

People dont seem to realize even if they made precursers easy to get, the price of a legendary will stay roughly the same (actually it has the potential to become MORE expensive).

All it will do is shift demand on the rare materials required for legendaries, such as lodestones. If the lodestone price doubles it wipes away all the ‘savings’ you got from the precursor.

Even if they did make it worth crowns it would likely be 200+ crowns and then people back to the forums “oh the grind!” I can see it now…

Draygo.9473:

People dont seem to realize even if they made precursers easy to get, the price of a legendary will stay roughly the same (actually it has the potential to become MORE expensive).

All it will do is shift demand on the rare materials required for legendaries, such as lodestones. If the lodestone price doubles it wipes away all the ‘savings’ you got from the precursor.

Why would it shift demand? Seems to me the people that want precursors also want the lodestones and other rare mats. So it should roughly be similar demand depending on the popularity of the Legendary.

Nothing about precursor on livestream…

ColinJohanson.2394:

I just want to quickly clarify to set expectations, nothing in the blog post, nor nothing we’ve said anywhere has said you will be able to buy precursor items directly for crowns, this is not the case. We’ve simply said we’ll try and find some other places to add a chance to get them to the game until we’ve implemented the eventual precursor scavenger hunt.

Long term we’ll be working on the scavenger hunt concept to track down and earn a precursor item as a direct form of earning the reward. We’ll discuss that in more detail in the future once a design and implementation has been finalized.

Recently you guys said that no one is currently working on the Precursor scavenger hunt and implied that you were working on other alternatives for getting precursors. Now you imply that the only non-uber-RNG way to get precursors will be the Scavenger Hunt, (which, one would suppose, is still not being worked on by any developers).

I love you guys and find the recent information from you guys to be largely positive. However, I must say that I find it odd that you guys seem to have established a trend of teasing features that the community goes wild over, only to then clarify that you aren’t actually working on them, while we get features and content that the community would give a very low priority to.

If you “float a trail balloon” and the community gets excited over it, you might want to make those things a top priority, rather than continually teasing things that may, or may not, receive development time “sometime this year”.

I’m wondering if some of you guys hear yourselves. Best example atm is “just add it for 200-400 crowns and be done with it”. Really? You want to do daily and monthly for 5 months until you can only buy ONE item (precursor) and not be able to get anything else for the same currency? Yes we get 40 crowns/month and no, achievements we already have will almost 100% not give crowns but a different type of reward and we might not see that until Feb or March.

At this point precursors should be like candy for some of us. I.E.: you have 150g and 100% world and over 3000 achiv pts and story completed and the other 3 gifts in account bank you get a token in mail instantly that you use with the 150 g to buy your desired precursor from Myani (and make any precursor obtained like this soulbound).

ColinJohanson.2394:

I just want to quickly clarify to set expectations, nothing in the blog post, nor nothing we’ve said anywhere has said you will be able to buy precursor items directly for crowns, this is not the case. We’ve simply said we’ll try and find some other places to add a chance to get them to the game until we’ve implemented the eventual precursor scavenger hunt.

Long term we’ll be working on the scavenger hunt concept to track down and earn a precursor item as a direct form of earning the reward. We’ll discuss that in more detail in the future once a design and implementation has been finalized.

Soon™

I would rather do 5 months of dailys than wait 6 months for a scavenger hunt that may or may not exist.

I’d hate to think how much Dusk is going to be worth in 6 months too