Human Story with Caudecus makes me angry

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Posted by: Arden.7480

Arden.7480


When I see this Caudecus I feel so angry and I just wanna smash him away like the parasite. Wrrr

“The Elder Dragon is no more”

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Posted by: Astralporing.1957

Astralporing.1957

Sometimes i wonder, what the player reactions would be if the roles were reversed – if Caudecus was the king and Jennah the rebel.

Actions, not words.
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Posted by: Tsakhi.8124

Tsakhi.8124

Sometimes i wonder, what the player reactions would be if the roles were reversed – if Caudecus was the king and Jennah the rebel.

That’s a pretty interesting question, namely because Caudecus feels as though he’s justified for what he does. I’m paraphrasing this, but there’s a saying that goes: “Until a lion learns to write, the story will always favor the hunter.” Caudecus, in this case, probably feels as though he’s the lion and Jennah is the hunter, drowning what he cares for in a pool of ignorance and frailty. Of course, there’s a lot more to the story than what is said on the forum, so I won’t get into it because I don’t want to spoil anything. I will say, however, that propaganda spread throughout Tyria speaks volumes about his mentality and how his loss of power is slowly driving him mad.

Probably something inappropriate.

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Posted by: Pifil.5193

Pifil.5193

Sometimes i wonder, what the player reactions would be if the roles were reversed – if Caudecus was the king and Jennah the rebel.

If it were that way then the living story would have ended up with us deposing him, crowning Jennah, then back home in time for tea and medals! Hurrah!

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Posted by: Zenith.7301

Zenith.7301

To be honest, I don’t like being forced to play nice with Charr and forget about Ascalon.

I’d love to be from the Gwen school of kill them all and take Ascalon back.

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Posted by: Illconceived Was Na.9781

Illconceived Was Na.9781

To be honest, I don’t like being forced to play nice with Charr and forget about Ascalon.

I’d love to be from the Gwen school of kill them all and take Ascalon back.

Gwen the elder was a miserable person (with cause, the ‘best’ or perhaps the worst). I’m surprised Thack the Elder stuck with her long enough to let her less vitriolic self come through. Good thing for the future of humans in Tyria, too. Life with the charr seems preferably to extinction.

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Posted by: Danikat.8537

Danikat.8537

Sometimes i wonder, what the player reactions would be if the roles were reversed – if Caudecus was the king and Jennah the rebel.

That’s a pretty interesting question, namely because Caudecus feels as though he’s justified for what he does. I’m paraphrasing this, but there’s a saying that goes: “Until a lion learns to write, the story will always favor the hunter.” Caudecus, in this case, probably feels as though he’s the lion and Jennah is the hunter, drowning what he cares for in a pool of ignorance and frailty. Of course, there’s a lot more to the story than what is said on the forum, so I won’t get into it because I don’t want to spoil anything. I will say, however, that propaganda spread throughout Tyria speaks volumes about his mentality and how his loss of power is slowly driving him mad.

I don’t think Caudecus is being honest about his motives. During Season 3 Demmi says something like “he’d rather see Kryta burn than see anyone else rule it”.

I think he’s a crowd pleaser – he’ll say whatever he thinks his audience wants to hear, even pretend it’s his own most deeply held beliefs, if he thinks it’ll get them to side with him.

If not then he’s a pretty contradictory person. He’s sided with at least 3 groups with very different motives:
1) The bandits like Riot Alice who want to overthrow the monarchy and the nobility and implement some sort of democracy/republic/anarchy with no ruling class.
2) The Seperatists who don’t care about Kryta beyond Jennah signing the treaty with the charr but who want to take back Ascalon and apparently believe he will help them do it.
3) The White Mantle who want to conquer Kryta but are also religious fanatics. For a long time Caudecus apparently pretended to not just share their beliefs but to be one of the most devout believers, then caused a schism by prioritising political power over religious goals.

And meanwhile many of the people of Kryta see him as the good and caring minister who only wants what’s best for the country and is fundamentally opposed to all 3 of those groups.

Danielle Aurorel, Dear Dragon We Got Your Cookies [Nom], Desolation (EU).

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Posted by: Astralporing.1957

Astralporing.1957

Sometimes i wonder, what the player reactions would be if the roles were reversed – if Caudecus was the king and Jennah the rebel.

That’s a pretty interesting question, namely because Caudecus feels as though he’s justified for what he does.

That’s not what i had in mind, in truth.

Yeah, Caudecus has a ton of highly questionable motives, and seem to be working mostly for himself. The problem is, if you look closer, Jennah is not so clean either.

It’s just that he’s a creepy older man with a suspicious look and voice, while Jennah is… not. If the image was reversed, i’m sure lot of people would have found reasons to still side with her (in her role as a minister that opposes the king), even if the behaviour and visible motivations of both their roles were to remain completely unchanged beyond the switch of visuals.

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Posted by: PlatinumMember.5274

PlatinumMember.5274

Sometimes i wonder, what the player reactions would be if the roles were reversed – if Caudecus was the king and Jennah the rebel.

That’s a pretty interesting question, namely because Caudecus feels as though he’s justified for what he does.

That’s not what i had in mind, in truth.

Yeah, Caudecus has a ton of highly questionable motives, and seem to be working mostly for himself. The problem is, if you look closer, Jennah is not so clean either.

It’s just that he’s a creepy older man with a suspicious look and voice, while Jennah is… not. If the image was reversed, i’m sure lot of people would have found reasons to still side with her (in her role as a minister that opposes the king), even if the behaviour and visible motivations of both their roles were to remain completely unchanged beyond the switch of visuals.

When you have to go into meaningless hypothetical, it is probably a good indication that your argument isn’t strong.

We the human players do not trust Caudecus because the evidence presented in the story gave us no reason to trust him. It wasn’t because of his looks nor voice. It was because he was highly suspicious. Then if you are a member of the Whispers it becomes even more apparent why trusting Caudecus is not a smart bet, again that had nothing to do with his appearance or voice.

Jenna might have her own issue but the story hasn’t indicated that she is bad or even close to the level of villainy as Caudecus. Personally, my issues are with her friend the leader of the shining blades. I also have a soft spot for Logan and how things played out wasn’t right. You would think she would have done something, sooner but nope.

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Posted by: Zenith.7301

Zenith.7301

To be honest, I don’t like being forced to play nice with Charr and forget about Ascalon.

I’d love to be from the Gwen school of kill them all and take Ascalon back.

Gwen the elder was a miserable person (with cause, the ‘best’ or perhaps the worst). I’m surprised Thack the Elder stuck with her long enough to let her less vitriolic self come through. Good thing for the future of humans in Tyria, too. Life with the charr seems preferably to extinction.

Nah, my hero roundly wiped them out in droves. Would have been happy to oblige and carry out the genocide of the Charr with my ritualist

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Posted by: Gryphon.2875

Gryphon.2875

To be honest, I don’t like being forced to play nice with Charr and forget about Ascalon.

I’d love to be from the Gwen school of kill them all and take Ascalon back.

Gwen the elder was a miserable person (with cause, the ‘best’ or perhaps the worst). I’m surprised Thack the Elder stuck with her long enough to let her less vitriolic self come through. Good thing for the future of humans in Tyria, too. Life with the charr seems preferably to extinction.

Nah, my hero roundly wiped them out in droves. Would have been happy to oblige and carry out the genocide of the Charr with my ritualist

And my hero was right beside you