Guild Wars 2

GADefence.5634:

“They should not be punished for following a management directive.”

Actually, considering nexon basically forced ANet to hire someone to make the game more “profit centric” (read: what people think people will spend money on) and that she basically made the game take the same steps every other game took 1-3 months before they horribly horribly died, I think I agree that she need a good bout of the old firing.

Anyway, I like how the WoW fanbase that game hops in between WoW updates and kills them off so only their favored holy game/religion succeed is kittening at all of us (I’m sure most of us being people who pre ordered and supported ANet in development. . .) that we’re the ones who don’t get it. I’m just hoping that ANet can recover after the inevitable fail in a few months.

Technically, both sides kill the game. The side who (may or may not have) pushed for the changes and gives up over short time exposure and the side who gives up due to the changes. So both sides killed it. The only population who keeps a game alive are not the guys who claim they “support” the game and say they’ll quit because of these updates. It’s the people who still enjoy the game for what it is while posting bugs, feedback, etc along the way. So…yeah. The game is alive with people who play (doesn’t matter who they are).

Jornophelanthas.1475:

Wintyre Fraust.6534:

Jornophelanthas.1475:

Paying (about) $55 for a game does not buy ownership of the game company, and does not entitle one to make game design or business decisions. Least of all, it does not entitle one to take away somebody’s livelihood.

One forum post is not negative publicity.
Opinion is not fact.
Not even mine.

Perhaps you’re unware of the 10,000 + post thread here? This is not “one post in a forum”.

BTW, purchasing the game and buying $120 worth of gems based on their stated commitment to uphold a fundamental design philosophy gives me the right to state my displeasure and offer up a means of correcting what I see as a huge mistake.

I am aware of the uproar, but that does not make you, or anyone else, its spokeperson, nor does it entitle anyone to issue petty and vindictive ultimatums. You weren’t even trying to be constructive, and although your choice of words may be civil, your demand for the public humiliation of an entire company is anything but.

“You made a terrible decision” is an opinion.
“I want an apology” is not an opinion, but a demand that may or may not be reasonable.
“Fire that guy now!” is not an opinion, but an unreasonable demand.

Neither $55, nor $120 buys you the right to fire people.

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Mandrax.7342:

In terms of how Anet can make good. I personally think that if they agree to keep ascended as the top stat gear and make it available widely through WvW, crafting and such, it will be a step in the right direction.

I believe they have already announced something like this:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/news/A-message-from-our-Studio-Design-Director-Chris-Whiteside/first#post721451

(The bottom paragraph)

Firstly they haven’t said it would be available through crafting, nor have they said that the ascended gear will be the top gear always. The only thing they did confirm is that it would be available via WvW but they put the words ‘over time’ in there. I would love to know what that actually means.

Does it mean that when it becomes available for dungeons that WvW will have it’s very own progression path, or does it mean it will be available after it ceases to become useful for PvE because a new set has come out?

This is the problem. So far their only response to the outrage has asked more questions than it answered.

I do need any of that. Just clear indication of what the direction of the game is. Not the PR fluff we have had but a definitive answer on if dungeons are now the be all and end all of this game. If they say that is the focus for post pve 80 then I can walk away without a backward glance. It will be a shame for me as this game was up there with grim fandango as one of my all time favourites.

I have no idea why people are so keen to play in little boxes and exclude people but I suppose it takes all sorts. I do tend to look at them the same way as i do Morris dancers though.

i dont think someone job should be in jeopardy but maybe this incident will make anet more forthcoming in the future discussing about possible big changes with the community so we can have an ability to change the game we want instead of dumping changes on us. if an ideas get too much negativity on the official forums then they could nix the idea and decide to go in another direction. the whole ascended gear thing has ticked me off mainly cause its was a change that was something that i and alot of other were clearly against. im all for polls and such from anet giving us decision which way thew game goes

Let’s think of what ANet is really good at — what they cut their teeth on in GW1.

Dungeons (meaning small group instanced content)

sPvP

So we get to GW2, I’m gonna expect that it’s gonna be dungeons and sPvP.

Look at what we have, and those are the only parts of the game that aren’t consistent bug-fests. The only reason anyone tolerates WvW is that GW2 is one of the very few games that’s attempting to provide it in a non-pvp game.

Dungeons = be all end all? I don’t think that’s what ANet wants.

But it is what they’re good at.

ckeeton.4907:

Because outside of this forum everyone likes it so have fun being the minority

So, you play with everyone outside this forum, in game on every server to be able to make that statement?? Highly doubtful!
Everyone you play with may like the changes. You have to take into consideration that our friends and or peeps we play with usually have the same interests and or ideas as we do. Not surprising that (most?? of ) the GW1 crowd and the people that wanted to play the game as it was pitched and designed from the start are pissed at the turn of events and that the WoW / Clone , stat hungry, progressionist players are pleased.

As for being the minority, that as well is highly doubtful but it may become a reality if everyone unsatisfied with the new GuildWoW2 direction moves on to something else.

I agree that firing people over this isn’t a solution because employees are only doing what management is telling them to do.
Bottom line is let’s have people buy the game, then have them spend the rough equivalent per month(s) for gems and then screw them over by changing the way the item progression is done to make even more money off the WoW and WoW clonies (unlimited stat progression) we got to join.
Stat increases were not needed, new items I can live with, new stat progression, not so much.

Kind of like what the government does after winning an election… Renegs on electoral campaign promises.. The difference here is we don’t have to put up with it until next term. Voting with our all mighty $$.

Things need to be fixed.. I personally think fixing the broken kitten in this game would have been much needed along with the new content minus superior stat gear.

I still have much to do before I really worry about the way this game is going and decide to quit or not.. Time will tell.