Guild Wars 2

Elden Arnaas.4870:

re: Would mounts be culled if, as pointed out earlier in this thread (without a supporting quote unfortunately)

Since Mounts would be Purely Cosmetic, they would just get Hidden Like Miniatures and people would return to their default model.

Obtena.7952:

STIHL.2489:

Obtena.7952:

STIHL.2489:

Obtena.7952:

That shows a large lack of understanding. We already know that for mounts, you need more than a skin to purchase in the gem store for them to work ingame. Anet would have to charge phenomenal amounts just to cover the dev costs for mounts.

Eh? we already have a Broom, a Flying Carpet, and a tunneler, what’s the big deal?

If that’s your definition of mounts, then /thread?

I think you and everyone else are fully aware that those are not the mounts people are after, otherwise these threads would cease to exist.

The thing is, that is what should be done to resolve the entire issue.

In the current form of GW2, everything is mainly cosmetic. Why not Mounts?

Actually, I agree but that’s not what people are asking for that I and others disagree with. Simply decreeing magic carpets and brooms as mounts will not placate them.

I imagine not, hence why I suggested they put some bigger more bad kitten looking ‘mounts’ in the gem shop.

It’s really all about image, a Flying Carpet, while ‘kinda cool’ is simply not as Impressive as riding a Charr Motorcycle, and does not have that mount feel about it.

Which really, what would it hurt anyone to toss that out and see if it sold?

In the end, yes, all Anet is selling is a “wicked cool” looking run animation. So what, let people have it.

Khisanth.2948:

Endless Soul.5178:

I don’t understand the desire to want mounts just because every other game out there has them.

Some people just want a pony for Christmas

Yup

Let them have their pony

STIHL.2489:

Since Mounts would be Purely Cosmetic, they would just get Hidden Like Miniatures and people would return to their default model.

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In the end, yes, all Anet is selling is a “wicked cool” looking run animation. So what, let people have it.

If it would be hidden by default, and if it conveyed no boost to travel speed, sure, I’d not object. I have this feeling, though, that if they were implemented in that fashion, we’d see tons of:

• Not fair! I want other players to have to see my awesome mount!
• Not fair, we spent [insert currency and amount] and don’t travel any faster? WTK, ANet ripped us off.

At that point, the potential value to Anet would be reduced, because the market would be divided. I wish I didn’t expect this of people, but I do.

IndigoSundown.5419:

If it would be hidden by default, and if it conveyed no boost to travel speed, sure, I’d not object. I have this feeling, though, that if they were implemented in that fashion, we’d see tons of:

• Not fair! I want other players to have to see my awesome mount!
• Not fair, we spent [insert currency and amount] and don’t travel any faster? WTK, ANet ripped us off.

At that point, the potential value to Anet would be reduced, because the market would be divided. I wish I didn’t expect this of people, but I do.

• It would not be hidden by default, exactly like a Flying Carpet, or Broom, it would be active, unless it needs to be turned off due to graphic issues (much like Mini’s)

• I don’t see this happening, with the legions of cosmetic fluff in the game, I think people would be able to grasp “it’s just for show”

graymouser.4698:

Torolan.5816:

If I had access to teleporters, I would probably only know what a horse is if I saw one in a book. Sturdy animals like an ox find a use in agriculture, and some horses of course too, so that use is still there, but this also screams “Job for a golem!” for me. And why take an unconvenient ride if you can just teleport, or feed a horse if the friendly Golem can do the job? The technic affirmity surely is someday a running buzzsaw falling into the lap of man, but it is how it is.^^

Riding a horse for the sake of reaching a place does simply not make sense for me in Tyria, sry.

Well such lore based arguments as this one have convinced me enough now to accept that Tyria is a successful, believable world WITHOUT mounts.

If they indeed discovered magic and magical driven mechanics and because of this taming and riding ride-able mounts became unpopular, then that’s a reasonably valid explanation for me.

Still it’s a bit strange then that they still rely on swords and such and not 100% on magic driven rifles, canons and rockets etc. And that they did not develop individual transport by magical means. But yeah maybe the government wants to control all distance travel, so they just prohibited individual controlled transport. They probably register every movement in and out a portal

If someone has an idea why primitive weaponry is still being used in Tyria, please add this to the discussion!

Cheers!

Gray

Well, the rifles and bows never run out of ammunition. Maybe they aren’t so primitive after all….

No mounts for me, thanks

We already have mounts like the riding broom and magic carpet… I’m not against getting more of these sort of mounts.

Anything with combat or extra stats I’m against.

With the game is now, the mounts would only be something visual and nothing more.

Contra
- Maps are small enough to travell by foot and speedbuff
- Waypoints are close enough to each other, so mounting could be more tedious, then beneficial.
- Gliders everywhere give you a good boost and are actually taking the place of mounts at the moment.
- With the amount of problems we have with chairs and capes, I don’t think they want to rig (even if they go simple) horses, bikes or anything else to the anatomy of different races (yes, there is the broom and the carpet, but these are old animations)
- too much gem-shop
- immersionbreaking: “poof, I got a horse, Bike, whatever”

Pro
- People “want” mounts? I guess (My take is that they just want something to show off… oh look a glider)
- They could be visually interesting: Charr bikes, Horses, Dragons, Wolfes..
- Getting the mass market MMO crowd… maybe? Because everyone does it.
- gem-shop?

Look, the pro side is a lot of maybe and based on subjective ideas of need and mostly superficial, while the contra side is more target-oriented and sees the problem with them in the enviroment of Tyria.

Simply said: They are not needed as a mechanic and would only add one more fashion part, to a game that is called Fashion Wars / Gem-Store Wars allready

This a discussion about style over substance and this is something that has to be balanced.
The style of a mount in this case is not enough to take over the lack of substance it has in this game.

“Yay, I got a horse.”
“What does it do? Are you faster? Got new skills? Anything?”
“Nah, it is just a horse I can ride on, wheee.”
“So, nothing?”
“Yeah, nothing, but I heard there will be Charr-bikes later.”
“Am I able to use their weapons?”
“Nah, just to satisfy the lowest common MMO nominator.”
“Well, i pass then.”

Maybe a definition of what a mount is would help.
Small mounts which add very little extra clutter to the game would be OK , but I am guessing thats not what people want.
The last 2 games I played with mounts which was WOW and Lotro had a major problem with added clutter of people riding their mounts into towns or anywhere there were NPCs , and the mounts simply totally obscured the NPCs , so anyone not on a mount couldnt do anything.
If theres a button labelled turn off mounts, so Im not affected by other peoples mounts then fine , but I bet this isnt what people want either.

mauried.5608:

Maybe a definition of what a mount is would help.
Small mounts which add very little extra clutter to the game would be OK , but I am guessing thats not what people want.
The last 2 games I played with mounts which was WOW and Lotro had a major problem with added clutter of people riding their mounts into towns or anywhere there were NPCs , and the mounts simply totally obscured the NPCs , so anyone not on a mount couldnt do anything.
If theres a button labelled turn off mounts, so Im not affected by other peoples mounts then fine , but I bet this isnt what people want either.

Black Gold Online, had a fun solution to this. Players could not interact with an NPC while on a mount, so, there was never any mounts cluttered around a vendor. You also could not heal, fight, or interact with anything else in the game, while on a mount.

STIHL.2489:

• I don’t see this happening, with the legions of cosmetic fluff in the game, I think people would be able to grasp “it’s just for show”

Read the previous mount threads. Usually the people that asked for purely cosmetic mounts on page 1 specify, that “purely cosmetic” means “with only basic speed boosts” on page 3 and then go on to state that anything less than 200% boost would be stupid on page 5. That’s a pretty consistent pattern.

Jaken.6801:

“What does it do? Are you faster? Got new skills? Anything?”

By this Metric.

Do Outfits Do anything?
Do Mini’s Do anything?
Do Dyes Do Anything?
Do Bobble Head Laboratories Do anything?
Do Aviator Memory Boxes Do Anything?
Do Endless Tonics Do Anything?
Do The Endless Skins for our Weapons/Armor/Back Do anything?

I am pretty sure, that if we took a moment to look at all the stuff in this game, there is an insane amount things that don’t Do Anything, the reason for this, s because it allows the game to be added to, without power creep being added to the mix.

So yes, you could pass on mounts, but if your metric that it needs to Do something needs to be met, I imagine you haven’t got anything else that is purely cosmetic, nor do you do most content, because there is a ton of stuff in this game, that has no reason to be done outside of style and look.

Yes, this game is called “Fashion Wars 2” and a lot of people like it that.

If the only thing holding you to this game was functionality, the game would have ended for you a long time ago.

If mounts do not exist in GW2 lore, how come I keep getting killed in HoT by fellas riding raptor type things?

Astralporing.1957:

STIHL.2489:

• I don’t see this happening, with the legions of cosmetic fluff in the game, I think people would be able to grasp “it’s just for show”

Read the previous mount threads. Usually the people that asked for purely cosmetic mounts on page 1 specify, that “purely cosmetic” means “with only basic speed boosts” on page 3 and then go on to state that anything less than 200% boost would be stupid on page 5. That’s a pretty consistent pattern.

This discussion is not that discussion.

Here we have pretty much established that we have ‘mounts’ in the game already, and if we got more added, they would follow the existing theme.

As for “Purely Cosmetic” giving any kind of boost, I don’t recall my “Purely Cosmetic” outfits giving me any kinds of bonus, so not sure how they figure “Cosmetic = Bonus”

That’s on them, and maybe for the best the topics don’t get merged.

STIHL.2489:

Jaken.6801:

“What does it do? Are you faster? Got new skills? Anything?”

By this Metric.

Do Outfits Do anything?
Do Mini’s Do anything?
Do Dyes Do Anything?
Do Bobble Head Laboratories Do anything?
Do Aviator Memory Boxes Do Anything?
Do Endless Tonics Do Anything?
Do The Endless Skins for our Weapons/Armor/Back Do anything?

I am pretty sure, that if we took a moment to look at all the stuff in this game, there is an insane amount things that don’t Do Anything, the reason for this, s because it allows the game to be added to, without power creep being added to the mix.

So yes, you could pass on mounts, but if your metric that it needs to Do something needs to be met, I imagine you haven’t got anything else that is purely cosmetic, nor do you do most content, because there is a ton of stuff in this game, that has no reason to be done outside of style and look.

Yes, this game is called “Fashion Wars 2” and a lot of people like it that.

If the only thing holding you to this game was functionality, the game would have ended for you a long time ago.

So yeah… you read my whole post appearently, where I went pro and con and that is what you are focusing on?
Just one example of many many possible szenarios? Applause, please.

Nice for you to focus on that, even though I clearly stated many other reasons, but I might be mistaken of course.
Surely this one statement you picked does negate everything else I said 100%.

I mean, I never argued the whole “fashion wars” thing.

Never said it has to do something, but people “expect” it. However that place in this game is allready taken/not needed, as it suplemented by man other things.

It’s not like I mentioned the fact that this would be a lot of extra work for several people, which would include several problems the game is allready fighting with.

As for the lore issue, there are plenty of mounts in lore. There are even, specifically, horses, even if we never see them in GW2. They are mentioned and do exist.
I think, according to lore, mounts would be unnecessary, thanks to way points, but not entirely out of the realm of possibility. For the same reason people in developed countries still ride horses today. They don’t actually GO anywhere on these horses. It’s purely for recreation. But I think this thread, unlike many others, is willing to acknowledge this detail. At the end of the day, I think what they’re really asking for is more stuff like the riding broom. I can totally get behind that if that’s what people want.

I think though, the idea you get that people are “opposed” to mounts is incorrect. I’m assuming (and I could be wrong. Sorry) you saw previous thread (s) where people insisted that we NEEDED mounts for whatever reason, and people listed a thousand different reasons why we don’t. But I don’t think most people would be “against” aesthetic mounts. Just indifferent. Like how we treat costumes.

My problem with mounts in other MMOs is that:
1. They’re useless for anything but travel. Once you get in combat, the mount goes away. But, they’re not only available when travelling
2. They’re MASSIVE, easily doubling the size of a character’s model in the worldspace, and occluding that much more terrain/objects. Furthermore, being land-based, they occlude the useful parts of the game (Other players, NPCs, interactive items, and platforms)
3. They compete with/detract from the aesthetic of the rider more often than not. Furthermore, unlike Back Pieces, the mount is the first and largest thing seen.

Meanwhile, gliders manage to avoid most of the shortfalls.
1. They are only visible when actively using them, so they don’t occlude the gameworld around them
2. They are used in a space where there’s rarely anything else worth looking at, so they don’t disrupt the game world around them
3. They are much easier to coordinate with the user’s appearance, and are generally occluded by the wearer, not the other way around.

Jaken.6801:

Jaken.6801:

“What does it do? Are you faster? Got new skills? Anything?”

So yeah… you read my whole post appearently, where I went pro and con and that is what you are focusing on?

I’ll respond to what I feel like responding to, and your entire post could be summed up by that line.

What we have for “mounts” now is perfect for this game, I think. They’re useless in functioning, and really small and don’t have the "clutter " issue. Unlike giant lizards and glowing stallions seen in other games where civilized towns, where people eat, sleep, and do business, is awash in giant animals that you can’t see past.

Sartharina.3542:

2. They’re MASSIVE, easily doubling the size of a character’s model in the worldspace, and occluding that much more terrain/objects.

Not sure where you get this notion that mounts need to be MASSIVE for example, in Black Gold Online, they have bikes that people use to get around that are not that big at all, in fact that character does not sit taller then they would be standing.

Also, lets talk size relativity, case in point, doubling the Size of the Smallest Asura would not even amount to the Leg of the Largest Norn.

Now, I have never played WoW, but I have just looked at mounts in that game, and they do seem obnoxiously large, in comparison to the mounts and modes of travel I have seen in other games.

If that was your only sampling, I’m sorry to hear that.

3. They compete with/detract from the aesthetic of the rider more often than not.

Why is this a problem?

If it’s what a player wants, eh, let them have it.

Well the game really uses its aesthetic as a selling point. It’s kind of gw’s thing. I dont see why you’d buy this game just to clutter up its beauty. It’s like buying pancakes just for the syrup. So I for one would be opposed to large mounts.

So there are 3 mounts in the game already, which you almost never see anyone using.

I’d be willing to bet that they did not sell very well because they were purely cosmetic.

If a purely cosmetic mount doesn’t interest anyone, then ArenaNet would need to find a way to incentivize people into purchasing mounts. This is where they would most likely consider either adding extra functionality (faster speeds, higher jumps, etc.) or stripping functions from the base game (lowering our running speeds, removing waypoints, etc.). In either scenario, you’ve made mounts a “must have” without actually adding anything of value to the game.

That’s why people are opposed to mounts. They know that the only way ArenaNet is going to do it is if they make money on it and the only way they can make money on it is if it is not purely cosmetic (because the existing purely cosmetic mounts clearly did not sell well).

mtpelion.4562:

So there are 3 mounts in the game already, which you almost never see anyone using.

Exactly. They already tested “cosmetic mounts” in the past and people did not care about them.

STIHL.2489:

It’s really all about image, a Flying Carpet, while ‘kinda cool’ is simply not as Impressive as riding a Charr Motorcycle, and does not have that mount feel about it.

Which really, what would it hurt anyone to toss that out and see if it sold?

In the end, yes, all Anet is selling is a “WICKED COOL” LOOKING RUN ANIMATION. So what, let people have it.

Now we are talking.

Imagine a thief running ninja style through the forest of Caledon, or an engie rolling around with a couple of magitech skates, or a mesmer simply hovering around a few centimeters over the ground…

Fantastic.

Being purely cosmetic is silly. They obviously need to provide a modest travel speed boost to be attractive. It shouldn’t be as much as it is in WoW. I would say 25% or so – the same speed boost some of the class abilities provide.

They don’t need to be usable everywhere. I think seeing people on mounts in the wilderness would actually add to the game.

Also, using the existing mounts as a reason not to do more is silly – the existing mounts are novelty items more than they are actually mounts.

I would LOVE to see aerial combat— on flying mounts. or the ability to use your weapons while gliding. dart in, stab with your sword, bank away.

Instead of mounts, I’d take a pack mule. lol

In a game with relatively small maps filled with WPs, mounts are just a waste of precious development time.

I could see a few mounts added for a ranger elite spec, but otherwise I don’t see the point.

Ardid.7203:

STIHL.2489:

It’s really all about image, a Flying Carpet, while ‘kinda cool’ is simply not as Impressive as riding a Charr Motorcycle, and does not have that mount feel about it.

Which really, what would it hurt anyone to toss that out and see if it sold?

In the end, yes, all Anet is selling is a “WICKED COOL” LOOKING RUN ANIMATION. So what, let people have it.

Now we are talking.

Imagine a thief running ninja style through the forest of Caledon, or an engie rolling around with a couple of magitech skates, or a mesmer simply hovering around a few centimeters over the ground…

Fantastic.

Now those are some cool ideas as well!

I could really get behind something like “Painted Streak” flowing behind a character as they ran, to give that “Ninja Run” type animation.

Gilburt.9146:

In a game with relatively small maps filled with WPs, mounts are just a waste of precious development time.

I could see a few mounts added for a ranger elite spec, but otherwise I don’t see the point.

Mileage varies. I can log in to a myriad of wings, backpacks, flying unicorns, useless effects like footsteps, talking Moron-Tron packs, cutesy audio pollution, a whole gamut of functionally useless harvest effects and have a very different view of “waste of precious development time” from yours.

Einlanzer.1627:

Being purely cosmetic is silly. They obviously need to provide a modest travel speed boost to be attractive. It shouldn’t be as much as it is in WoW. I would say 25% or so – the same speed boost some of the class abilities provide.

Why? A Lunatic guard outfit dose not give a fire shield, even tho it has a flame effect around it, a Cooks Outfit does not give me ranks in cookin , or Bonus EXP from cooking, or unlock recipes, or do anything at all related to cooking, a Shadow Assassin outfit does not give me stealth abilities, so why should everything have to do something.

It looks cool, put in some fun animations, and that’s enough.

If you only ask for mounts when what you really want is a run speed boost, it’s not an actual mount you want, what you want is to be forced to buy stuff from the gem store to keep up with some kind of Run-speed-meta.

That might not be what you think you want, but that is ultimately what you are asking for.

So why would you want that?

Vayne.8563:

Instead of mounts, I’d take a pack mule. lol

We have a Dolyak, a Dolyak Calf, or a Skritt you can choose from, if you are looking for our wonderful line of cosmetic stuff carrying animals.

oh yeah sure, i can already see horses , charr metal batmobiles and punny moas storming the canopy in the new hot zones.
Whats that? limit their use in specific zones? Sure thing!
How about also replacing gliders with flying vyverns with 20m long wing span and pegai that pop out of thin air and disappear after falling from a 2m height..

Vukorep.3081:

oh yeah sure, i can already see horses , charr metal batmobiles and punny moas storming the canopy in the new hot zones.

Can’t use mounts in combat, and given the mob density in the HOT maps, I’m not seeing this happen.

Game is to small for mounts, it would not had anything good or necessary to the game.

All OP can expect is some eye candy stuff from the TP similiar to flying carpet.

well, I thought about this.
horses would be totally meh. nobody sits on animals in this game.
there are “mounts” that I would consider immersive though:

a dolycart (very slow) would probably clutter all the roadways and could not be used over stairs to transport heavy loads.

a duneroller! did anyone ever try the duneroller in WvW? its a schematic for camps and considered by the game as a siegeengine – and omg it is fun to use!
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Schematic:_Assault_Roller
but I guess only because its NOT a permanent thing to have.

aand of course: golems!

so the only way to implement this fitting in the game is as collectable items (like tonics or transformation devices – see the mechanics that are already in the game for costume brawls)

We can have fancy stuff when upgrades to the engine and “stuff” are made.

I think the point is “Wicked Cool Looking Run Animation" is not the same as “Mounts”.
The word mount reeks of That Other MMO which made them an establishment: to most people for something to really be a Mount, it has to be big, cluttering, exagerated, be specificly something that goes between the legs of your toon, and give speed boons.

So, while I would fully support strictly aestethic “Wicked Cool Looking Run Animations" , I’ll never support “Mounts” as most people imagine them.

STIHL.2489:

Vayne.8563:

Instead of mounts, I’d take a pack mule. lol

We have a Dolyak, a Dolyak Calf, or a Skritt you can choose from, if you are looking for our wonderful line of cosmetic stuff carrying animals.

No I want a pack mule. Something to carry more stuff around.

Vayne.8563:

STIHL.2489:

Vayne.8563:

Instead of mounts, I’d take a pack mule. lol

We have a Dolyak, a Dolyak Calf, or a Skritt you can choose from, if you are looking for our wonderful line of cosmetic stuff carrying animals.

No I want a pack mule. Something to carry more stuff around.

That’s called an alt

Vayne.8563:

STIHL.2489:

Vayne.8563:

Instead of mounts, I’d take a pack mule. lol

We have a Dolyak, a Dolyak Calf, or a Skritt you can choose from, if you are looking for our wonderful line of cosmetic stuff carrying animals.

No I want a pack mule. Something to carry more stuff around.

hummm carrying your goods on the mule?
expect to be raided, when ic u outside of L.A…

>:]

I’d personally love to have mounts. Gw2’s maps are so beautiful and I feel it’s sad that we never get to see them much becase we’re just using WPs all the time. I would love to grab my mount and just ride away appreciating the beautiful world of Tyria.
I don’t see it happening though, since those things should be probably planned from before and might complicate things more now.
But still, one can dream…

If you want a mount, go buy one from the gem store — a flying carpet or broomstick. If Anet sells enough, they will almost certainly make more.

Now that I think about it, they could add a Mastery for mount, and allow certain content to be accessed via the mount of the mastery lv.

STIHL.2489:

It’s really all about image, a Flying Carpet, while ‘kinda cool’ is simply not as Impressive as riding a Charr Motorcycle, and does not have that mount feel about it.

When the motorcycle mounts came into WoW I realized a severe problem with them. Noise. They were deafening, and people sat on them everywhere. I could ask friends to dismount but otherwise I had to leave the area when someone else mounted up, and I couldn’t stand to ride my own.

So if you’re ok with your fancy motorcycle mount being completely silent, I’m ok with you having one IF they ever put mounts in.

STIHL.2489:

IndigoSundown.5419:

If it would be hidden by default, and if it conveyed no boost to travel speed, sure, I’d not object. I have this feeling, though, that if they were implemented in that fashion, we’d see tons of:

• Not fair! I want other players to have to see my awesome mount!
• Not fair, we spent [insert currency and amount] and don’t travel any faster? WTK, ANet ripped us off.

At that point, the potential value to Anet would be reduced, because the market would be divided. I wish I didn’t expect this of people, but I do.

• It would not be hidden by default, exactly like a Flying Carpet, or Broom, it would be active, unless it needs to be turned off due to graphic issues (much like Mini’s)

• I don’t see this happening, with the legions of cosmetic fluff in the game, I think people would be able to grasp “it’s just for show”

Every conversation regarding mounts has always come around to the advantages they could give players. If mounts are just for show, the mount threads will continue unabated. People will not understand that they are just for show.

Donari.5237:

STIHL.2489:

It’s really all about image, a Flying Carpet, while ‘kinda cool’ is simply not as Impressive as riding a Charr Motorcycle, and does not have that mount feel about it.

When the motorcycle mounts came into WoW I realized a severe problem with them. Noise. They were deafening, and people sat on them everywhere. I could ask friends to dismount but otherwise I had to leave the area when someone else mounted up, and I couldn’t stand to ride my own.

So if you’re ok with your fancy motorcycle mount being completely silent, I’m ok with you having one IF they ever put mounts in.

Same problem I’m having with chronomancer’s wells. They are incredibly LOUD!

Jhoul.6923:

Now that I think about it, they could add a Mastery for mount, and allow certain content to be accessed via the mount of the mastery lv.

That’s…. actually a good idea I never thought of. Plus, it gives people something to do with their XP.

STIHL.2489:

Astralporing.1957:

STIHL.2489:

• I don’t see this happening, with the legions of cosmetic fluff in the game, I think people would be able to grasp “it’s just for show”

Read the previous mount threads. Usually the people that asked for purely cosmetic mounts on page 1 specify, that “purely cosmetic” means “with only basic speed boosts” on page 3 and then go on to state that anything less than 200% boost would be stupid on page 5. That’s a pretty consistent pattern.

This discussion is not that discussion.

Here we have pretty much established that we have ‘mounts’ in the game already, and if we got more added, they would follow the existing theme.

As for “Purely Cosmetic” giving any kind of boost, I don’t recall my “Purely Cosmetic” outfits giving me any kinds of bonus, so not sure how they figure “Cosmetic = Bonus”

That’s on them, and maybe for the best the topics don’t get merged.

lol, basically few posts down from yours and we get this:

Einlanzer.1627:

Being purely cosmetic is silly. They obviously need to provide a modest travel speed boost to be attractive. It shouldn’t be as much as it is in WoW. I would say 25% or so – the same speed boost some of the class abilities provide.

Already people asking for speed boosts

Jhoul.6923:

Now that I think about it, they could add a Mastery for mount, and allow certain content to be accessed via the mount of the mastery lv.

or locking content behind having a mount.

See what i was saying?

Better nuke it from orbit. That’s the only way to be sure.

A noisy motorbike mount would be useful for drowning out some of those annoying legendary weapon sounds ;p

(Edit: flood control is now 5 minutes between posts????)

DoctorDing.5890:

A noisy motorbike mount would be useful for drowning out some of those annoying legendary weapon sounds ;p

(Edit: flood control is now 5 minutes between posts????)

Now THAT’S an idea!

~revs~revs~