I'm getting tired of dumb party problems

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Posted by: Cush.4063

Cush.4063

I’m only on level 4 for fractals. Yet I know how to do every single one. You know how I’m such a low level in fractals yet know each map? Because of the most ridiculous problem. The party leader leaving. Multiple times I’ve had this issue where I’ve spent hours doing a fractal to come to the last boss or something where either the party leader DC’s or another party member DC’s and the party leader doesn’t want to wait so leaves. Why does everyone get kicked? Why? It puts a fire in me I’m so angry when this happens. Obviously it just happened again at this very moment which is why my post is in rage. I can’t seem to progress in fractals because the party leader leaves and I just spent an hour or two doing it and it’s not really motivating to give it another try from square one. This should be a major priority to make it so that when a party leader leaves that someone else gets assigned the party leader just like every other game out there. /rant

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Posted by: Bagel.4598

Bagel.4598

You are being unreasonable.
For starters you can make a party, therefore you will never have a problem with people being kicked or the leader leaving.
You can also play ANY level you join, acquire the agony resist through the TP and join a level 49, since you are so seasoned in fractals you won’t have a problem with what to do.
You will still get your daily reward even if you are doing a level or ‘tier’ above your current personal.
49’s are less likely to fail than level 4’s.
Levels 0-39 should be considered a training gap. I would expect frustration, rage kicks and quits in these levels.
40+ are for the experienced. Less tolerance is required because there are less mistakes and fails.

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Posted by: Odinsfury.8360

Odinsfury.8360

I don’t think the OP is being unreasonable at all. It is extremely poor design to boot the entire party just because the person who started the instance cannot continue for whatever reason.

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Posted by: Bagel.4598

Bagel.4598

I don’t think the OP is being unreasonable at all. It is extremely poor design to boot the entire party just because the person who started the instance cannot continue for whatever reason.

He is being unreasonable because his progress is not blocked due to party leaders leaving, considering he could be a party leader himself.
Easy fix.

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Posted by: tomlin.8204

tomlin.8204

I don’t think the OP is being unreasonable at all. It is extremely poor design to boot the entire party just because the person who started the instance cannot continue for whatever reason.

He is being unreasonable because his progress is not blocked due to party leaders leaving, considering he could be a party leader himself.
Easy fix.

He is not at all being unreasonable, it’s a ridiculously idiotic design flaw that has been making people unhappy since the game’s release. It’s not just for his own benefit, it’s for other people’s too, as there is no guarantee that the OP wont DC or have to leave, either, causing everyone else in his party to get kicked.

And surely you realise that if everyone insisted on being the party leader, there wouldn’t be any parties, ever.

“meta” this, “meta” that. Please stop saying the word “meta”.

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Posted by: Bagel.4598

Bagel.4598

I don’t think the OP is being unreasonable at all. It is extremely poor design to boot the entire party just because the person who started the instance cannot continue for whatever reason.

He is being unreasonable because his progress is not blocked due to party leaders leaving, considering he could be a party leader himself.
Easy fix.

He is not at all being unreasonable, it’s a ridiculously idiotic design flaw that has been making people unhappy since the game’s release. It’s not just for his own benefit, it’s for other people’s too, as there is no guarantee that the OP wont DC or have to leave, either, causing everyone else in his party to get kicked.

And surely you realise that if everyone insisted on being the party leader, there wouldn’t be any parties, ever.

Ahhh the second person to ignore the OP’s content.
His fractal level has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PARTY LEADER LEAVING.

The subject of the party problem has been debated time and time again.
I provided a way out of it.
His post about being a level 4 fractal is unreasonable because it is not due to the party flaw.

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Posted by: tomlin.8204

tomlin.8204

I don’t think the OP is being unreasonable at all. It is extremely poor design to boot the entire party just because the person who started the instance cannot continue for whatever reason.

He is being unreasonable because his progress is not blocked due to party leaders leaving, considering he could be a party leader himself.
Easy fix.

He is not at all being unreasonable, it’s a ridiculously idiotic design flaw that has been making people unhappy since the game’s release. It’s not just for his own benefit, it’s for other people’s too, as there is no guarantee that the OP wont DC or have to leave, either, causing everyone else in his party to get kicked.

And surely you realise that if everyone insisted on being the party leader, there wouldn’t be any parties, ever.

Ahhh the second person to ignore the OP’s content.
His fractal level has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PARTY LEADER LEAVING.

The subject of the party problem has been debated time and time again.
I provided a way out of it.
His post about being a level 4 fractal is unreasonable because it is not due to the party flaw.

Now you’ve completely ignored my “content”

I think we actually agree in a small part of the argument. I agree that if he wanted to, he could get to a higher level. But to say it’s not because of being kicked, is quite untrue. He said it himself: “it’s not really motivating to give it another try from square one.” I can understand that, and I don’t think it’s unreasonable to be put off by bad experiences.

My fractal lavel is higher than 4, and so are many other people’s, because we persevere through this avoidable mess of a party system; avoidable by them coding it differently. Have you not seen the countless threads about this over the past year? So many people are unhappy with the party system – instead of having people getting frustrated and annoyed with it, why not do something about it?

And again, you didn’t provide a way out of it. You are suggesting that anyone who doesn’t want to risk wasting their time with this, to make their own party. I explained to you already that if everyone does that, there will be no parties, as only one person can be the party leader. And again, it’s not fair for the people in the OP’s party if HE dc’s or has to leave, and they are all kicked. Oh, maye they should all make their own parties too, but what if they dc? Then all the people who joined will get kicked. Maybe they should make their own parties too? Do you see where I am going with this, and why your “way out of it” doesn’t work?

I hope I explained it clearly enough this time.

“meta” this, “meta” that. Please stop saying the word “meta”.

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Posted by: Bagel.4598

Bagel.4598

*I’m only on level 4 for fractals. Yet I know how to do every single one. You know how I’m such a low level in fractals yet know each map? Because of the most ridiculous problem. The party leader leaving. * Multiple times I’ve had this issue where I’ve spent hours doing a fractal to come to the last boss or something where either the party leader DC’s or another party member DC’s and the party leader doesn’t want to wait so leaves. Why does everyone get kicked? Why? It puts a fire in me I’m so angry when this happens. Obviously it just happened again at this very moment which is why my post is in rage. I can’t seem to progress in fractals because the party leader leaves and I just spent an hour or two doing it and it’s not really motivating to give it another try from square one. This should be a major priority to make it so that when a party leader leaves that someone else gets assigned the party leader just like every other game out there. /rant

You become the leader, no risk of leader leaving if you decided to stay, if you disconnect you can rejoin.
If you disconnect for a period long enough to remove you from party, whether the group falls apart due to the ‘leader’ is void. That’s what happens when you go offline for a long period, your instances close.

You are being unreasonable to blame your fractal level on the party or party level.

I hope this simplified version is comprehendible to you.