Guild Wars 2

With the details of the Chinese version of the game and the Royal system, something just snapped. For me it is clear this isn’t the ANet I supported for 7-8years, nor is it the GuildWars game with high ideals that I fell in love with over 7 years ago…

Today I simply feel like my GF broke up after a 7y relationship as I found out she has been cheating on me. We had fun, shared hardship in those 7y, we didn’t always see eye to eye, but we were always able to compromise and find a solution that fit us both. Now though, she is ready to move on, all that we had doesn’t seem important to her anymore. And while I can see that this new guy is just some jerk with more money then me, she seems hopelessly in love with the idea of getting more expensive yet hollow presents. It’s more then clear this jerk will dump her when something he thinks is better comes along, and while I was there to support and pick her up when a setback came along her path, I doubt I will be able to do so ‘as a friend’ in the future. She choose this new route and so she will have to deal with what ever comes along with it…

I never knew a game could do this to me, let alone ‘outside’ of the game. But I feel like crying… :’(

Me too ;_;

/cry

I haven’t been a customer of ANet that long and it saddens even me. I’ve had so much hope for this game at release and I don’t want to let that go but it’s like I’m being forced to. ;_;

Great comparison.
Struggling with it today .I’m felling similar.

Arghore.8340:

With the details of the Chinese version of the game and the Royal system, something just snapped. For me it is clear this isn’t the ANet I supported for 7-8years, nor is it the GuildWars game with high ideals that I fell in love with over 7 years ago…

Today I simply feel like my GF broke up after a 7y relationship as I found out she has been cheating on me. We had fun, shared hardship in those 7y, we didn’t always see eye to eye, but we were always able to compromise and find a solution that fit us both. Now though, she is ready to move on, all that we had doesn’t seem important to her anymore. And while I can see that this new guy is just some jerk with more money then me, she seems hopelessly in love with the idea of getting more expensive yet hollow presents. It’s more then clear this jerk will dump her when something he thinks is better comes along, and while I was there to support and pick her up when a setback came along her path, I doubt I will be able to do so ‘as a friend’ in the future. She choose this new route and so she will have to deal with what ever comes along with it…

I never knew a game could do this to me, let alone ‘outside’ of the game. But I feel like crying… :’(

Same here

Anet doesn’t administer the chinese version of a game. They’re not directly in control of it. By chinese law, all video game companies have to have a chinese company at the head of it, who understand what can and can’t be done there.

Anet has licensed out the game to it’s Chinese partner, who makes changes to the game, with Anet’s help, but they’re making that game for that market.

That’s why when you look at the NcSoft quarterly report, China sales aren’t counted in sales at all, but in royalties.

Vayne, sometimes you may want to think about where your contributions add a different point of view, and where they might be entirely out of place, and in a sense add insult to injury…

GuildWars and ArenaNet were a company that set themselves apart from the industry standard, no matter where in the world it was played… So they sold themselves out and support some front-office turning the game into something it never was… It’s alrite I get it, my ‘girlfriend’ simply has a price, when I met her she didn’t strike me as a gold digger, but we were young and fresh and in love … we grew apart and I get it, but that doesn’t make me less sad about it…

Maybe some more details on how I morally view thing might help, I elaborated in some other thread earlier this week, but here it seems appropriate as well. I use a fairly subjective ‘strike’ system, you can compare it to an emotional scale, both positive and negative actions are put on that scale. Each action may also come with a certain ‘weight’ associated with it. This to me offers a fairly balanced way of viewing things, mistakes aren’t the end of the world, bad things don’t necessarily tip the scale over. As they have to compete with all the positive things, and their ‘weight’ also contributes to their impact on my opinion and stance… And for as long as the balance doesn’t strike all the way into the negative, people have a way to redeem themselves.

This to me feels like a fair way to treat my stance towards people and things, so what am I sad about, for the first time in 7y the scale went deep into the negative. As the things that were a big plus for the GuildWars franchise, and one of the main reasons for me to support the game, have turned to the opposite. Now I know there are many people that couldn’t care less about how the game is handled in China, as long as they themselves are not hit by it… but I for one do care about others, I do not see there being an Asian GW and a NA/EU GW, I just see GuildWars and what it stood for, and how that rated on my scale.

That scale tipped, it tipped big and hard, and it makes me sad to see that it does, for I have been a bid advocate of GuildWars for 7 years, a lot of that was due to their behaviour differing from the industry standard. And if it were an ‘innovative progression’ then I might have been able to stand behind it, but it’s not. It’s a major step back from what kept people engaged in the series for over 7y.

And for me this is horrible, it’s not that I will remove GW from my system instantly, or stop playing entirely. But it’s enough for me saying, I do not want to actively support this. And while the scale swings due to the latest rapid changes and to me personal revelations, I am not sure if that scale will come back into a ‘positive’ setting. I know things like a ‘moral compass’ and ‘sticking to your convictions’ are a rarity these days, but it’s the thing that keeps me sane and happy with myself even though it’s hard and unforgiving at times… and the implications of this whole ordeal make me sad, because if I have to conclude that the scale remains negative, and ANet/NCSoft doesn’t find a way to redeem themselves, they are striked off …

They will end in to same category as: EA, Blizzard, Apple, Google, Monsanto, and some other I simply forgot about… See, I am not against a company doing good and making a profit, it’s when they turn into power and money hungry entities that have no morals besides more money at the expense of everything else. That prey upon those that can’t see beyond a logo, or a marketing scheme; that have limited knowledge of technology and reproduction costs, and thus have nothing to go on besides hype and social(e-)peen (monkey rock) behaviour.

to quote something that illustrates this:
You can fool some people sometimes, but you can’t fool all the people all the time

So I’m sad and disappointed, to a point where I could cry about the possibility of loosing something I happily contributed to for over 7y.

I feel I have been back stabbed with this patch..

I planned to stay with GW2 for a good few years at least, but I am looking at other things and it sucks :/

Logic in a thread full of emotions is meaningless. :X

Did something new happen ? Or did you just learn about the things the China version has and we never will have ?

Cheer up emo kids.