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I sense history repeating itself
They could do better than Matrix Online by selling bodybags, coffins and gravestones in the gemshop so the players can properly bury their characters when this game finally died.
But aside from that GW2 still got a small chance, IF they manage to turn it around of course. The next updates will decide over the future of GW2, if they fail there will be plenty of alternatives to this game by the end of the year and the start of next year.
Judging from their course until now however they probably wont learn from their faults of the past nor admitting that they did something wrong. They will sink together with GW2 while yelling: “We have done nothing wrong!!!! Its all the players fault!!!”
dun worry, they will bring in vip system from gw2 china and it will revitalize the player base.
dun worry, they will bring in vip system from gw2 china and it will revitalize the player base.
Um no. That will butcher the remaining player base in an instant.
There is nothing worth paying for in this game as it has nothing in the long run.
It’s not a problem OP. It’s certainly not the problem you’re making it out to be. You’re concerned because the forum community is larger dissatisfied. If you took a snapshot of this community every six months or so, almost since launch, you’d find the same thing.
When we were getting content every two weeks, the forums were furious that it wasn’t permanent content. When ascended game out the forums were furious that the game now has vertical progression. When the NPE came out, the forums are furious that the game is now being dumbed down and that they’re leveled gated. In six months the forums will be furious about something else.
The forums are always furious about something.
To be fair, some of the stuff is more reasonable than other stuff, but I’m not too worried about the content. Halloween is around the corner, and just after that we get more new area to explore.
I’m sure other stuff is in the works as well.
It’s not a problem OP. It’s certainly not the problem you’re making it out to be. You’re concerned because the forum community is larger dissatisfied. If you took a snapshot of this community every six months or so, almost since launch, you’d find the same thing.
When we were getting content every two weeks, the forums were furious that it wasn’t permanent content. When ascended game out the forums were furious that the game now has vertical progression. When the NPE came out, the forums are furious that the game is now being dumbed down and that they’re leveled gated. In six months the forums will be furious about something else.
The forums are always furious about something.
To be fair, some of the stuff is more reasonable than other stuff, but I’m not too worried about the content. Halloween is around the corner, and just after that we get more new area to explore.
I’m sure other stuff is in the works as well.
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It’s not a problem OP. It’s certainly not the problem you’re making it out to be. You’re concerned because the forum community is larger dissatisfied. If you took a snapshot of this community every six months or so, almost since launch, you’d find the same thing.
When we were getting content every two weeks, the forums were furious that it wasn’t permanent content. When ascended game out the forums were furious that the game now has vertical progression. When the NPE came out, the forums are furious that the game is now being dumbed down and that they’re leveled gated. In six months the forums will be furious about something else.
The forums are always furious about something.
To be fair, some of the stuff is more reasonable than other stuff, but I’m not too worried about the content. Halloween is around the corner, and just after that we get more new area to explore.
I’m sure other stuff is in the works as well.
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It’s not a problem OP. It’s certainly not the problem you’re making it out to be. You’re concerned because the forum community is larger dissatisfied. If you took a snapshot of this community every six months or so, almost since launch, you’d find the same thing.
When we were getting content every two weeks, the forums were furious that it wasn’t permanent content. When ascended game out the forums were furious that the game now has vertical progression. When the NPE came out, the forums are furious that the game is now being dumbed down and that they’re leveled gated. In six months the forums will be furious about something else.
The forums are always furious about something.
To be fair, some of the stuff is more reasonable than other stuff, but I’m not too worried about the content. Halloween is around the corner, and just after that we get more new area to explore.
I’m sure other stuff is in the works as well.
How much do you want to bet the Matrix Online forums looked the same way?
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dun worry, they will bring in vip system from gw2 china and it will revitalize the player base.
Um no. That will butcher the remaining player base in an instant.
There is nothing worth paying for in this game as it has nothing in the long run.
Ever heard of sarcasm?
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Was Matrix Online aimed at the hardcore?
It’s not a problem OP. It’s certainly not the problem you’re making it out to be. You’re concerned because the forum community is larger dissatisfied. If you took a snapshot of this community every six months or so, almost since launch, you’d find the same thing.
When we were getting content every two weeks, the forums were furious that it wasn’t permanent content. When ascended game out the forums were furious that the game now has vertical progression. When the NPE came out, the forums are furious that the game is now being dumbed down and that they’re leveled gated. In six months the forums will be furious about something else.
The forums are always furious about something.
To be fair, some of the stuff is more reasonable than other stuff, but I’m not too worried about the content. Halloween is around the corner, and just after that we get more new area to explore.
I’m sure other stuff is in the works as well.
How much do you want to bet the Matrix Online forums looked the same way?
As I’ve said before, almost every MMO forum looks like this. I could almost copy and paste the Rift forum here and no one would even know the difference.
Well the game will never “die” in the sense that Matrix Online died, purely because of the revenue stream they’ll be getting from the Asian (read: Chinese) market. So worst case scenario is they pack up and move the the land of Chairman Mao. It won’t die though.
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Well the game will never “die” in the sense that Matrix Online died, purely because of the revenue stream they’ll be getting from the Asian (read: Chinese) market. So worst case scenario is they pack up and move the the land of Chairman Mao. It won’t die though.
I don’t know why you think the revenue stream from the Chinese market is bigger than the revenue stream from the US/European market. I’ve seen no evidence of this yet.
Even not counting the Chinese market the game seems to be profitable. It ranks about fifth when compared to subscription MMOs, which is pretty kitten ed good…or at least did a few months ago.
It’s not a problem OP. It’s certainly not the problem you’re making it out to be. You’re concerned because the forum community is larger dissatisfied. If you took a snapshot of this community every six months or so, almost since launch, you’d find the same thing.
When we were getting content every two weeks, the forums were furious that it wasn’t permanent content. When ascended game out the forums were furious that the game now has vertical progression. When the NPE came out, the forums are furious that the game is now being dumbed down and that they’re leveled gated. In six months the forums will be furious about something else.
The forums are always furious about something.
To be fair, some of the stuff is more reasonable than other stuff, but I’m not too worried about the content. Halloween is around the corner, and just after that we get more new area to explore.
I’m sure other stuff is in the works as well.
How much do you want to bet the Matrix Online forums looked the same way?
I remember there being a lot of feedback, positive and negative, on the forums, but i’d assume that every MMO forum has more harsh words than constructive.
Was Matrix Online aimed at the hardcore?
I thought it was pretty cool. Was just a massive city. Professions were like hackers and gunslingers and martial arts experts with cool slo-mo bullet time fighting like in the movies. The missions and living stories themselves weren’t extremely difficult, however soloing could be troublesome (and very repetitive, same ones over and over). There was this crazy thing they never fixed where you could just chill outside the doors or elevators of the buildings the missions took place in and shoot at the enemies and kill them without ever having them attack you haha.
Hear my advice. Ignore ppl that only know to rage and complain about every little thing they can see. On forums are like 10-20 ppl that are like that, so try to ignore them, they either haters, they either ppl that just think that complaining so much will solve something. The only thing they can do is to discourage you and many other ppl that ofc, will be indoctrinated with “The game is dying”. This game will last at least 5 more years.
It’s not a problem OP. It’s certainly not the problem you’re making it out to be. You’re concerned because the forum community is larger dissatisfied. If you took a snapshot of this community every six months or so, almost since launch, you’d find the same thing.
When we were getting content every two weeks, the forums were furious that it wasn’t permanent content. When ascended game out the forums were furious that the game now has vertical progression. When the NPE came out, the forums are furious that the game is now being dumbed down and that they’re leveled gated. In six months the forums will be furious about something else.
The forums are always furious about something.
To be fair, some of the stuff is more reasonable than other stuff, but I’m not too worried about the content. Halloween is around the corner, and just after that we get more new area to explore.
I’m sure other stuff is in the works as well.
How much do you want to bet the Matrix Online forums looked the same way?
I remember there being a lot of feedback, positive and negative, on the forums, but i’d assume that every MMO forum has more harsh words than constructive. Well WoW might not. Player’s may be satisfied with that game. I wouldn’t know; never really played it.
Hear my advice. Ignore ppl that only know to rage and complain about every little thing they can see. On forums are like 10-20 ppl that are like that, so try to ignore them, they either haters, they either ppl that just think that complaining so much will solve something. The only thing they can do is to discourage you and many other ppl that ofc, will be indoctrinated with “The game is dying”. This game will last at least 5 more years.
I hope so! I love this game! I probably spend too much time playing it ha.
dun worry, they will bring in vip system from gw2 china and it will revitalize the player base.
Um no. That will butcher the remaining player base in an instant.
There is nothing worth paying for in this game as it has nothing in the long run.
After seeing exactly this in a new game called Archeage I can definitely say that absolutely not in any time period or spacial grid would GW2 benefit from yet another terrible idea from a 1%er who thinks they know what the gaming world needs but only stays until a new shiny comes along. Seriously, don’t it’s not going to happen.
Their new direction is perfectly fine, they’ve adjusted some things that many of us with unlucky accounts thought we’d never see drop on our characters and one can hope that it will continue into the future with better rewards. I’m hopeful now that they’ve changed their sail but at no time should they go backwards which is what an APEX system would do to this game.
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I never played The Matrix Online but I read a lot about it (partially because I heard GW2 compared to it) and as I understand it the problem there wasn’t so much that they focused on story over adding game modes, classes and skills.
The problem was that it was a relatively niche subscription game, meaning they had limited funds coming in, but they opted to focus on one-time events with devs in-game controlling the event and sometimes role-playing major characters, which is a very resource intensive and therefore expensive way of adding new content.
Making a one-time event requires the same amount of time, effort and money as making permanent content of the same length/complexity, but you need a lot more of it to keep players occupied. At most they have new content for the duration of the event. If they’re not online at the time they get nothing. To make that work for most players you need a constant stream of new events running so that everyone gets something.
I suspect that (and all the lag and disconnect issues from having everyone in 1 map) is why Anet tried one-time only events once (the Lost Shores weekend) then promised to never do it again. Instead they shifted to content that could be played at any time within a 1 month or 2 week window, then finally went to permanent content.
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This sentence alone killed a game.
54 infractions and counting because a moderator doesn’t understand a joke when he/she sees it.
E.A.D.
E.A.D.
Not to mention that forum community is smaller than actual player base…
ANet doesn’t release the actual numbers and we in the forums have no way to determine it…
I’m a casual PvE adventurer, I enjoy combat, adventure and helping, but not farming.
I rarely do PvP or Hard PvE, unless it’s organized.
I rarely do PvP or Hard PvE, unless it’s organized.
Not to mention that forum community is smaller than actual player base…
ANet doesn’t release the actual numbers and we in the forums have no way to determine it…
OK so if Anet doesn’t release the numbers. How can you honestly say it’s a small percentage? Some people simply just don’t say anything and take what’s fed to them. Not everyone is going to say what’s on there minds.
I come from a guild in GW1 one of the top 5 largest in it. Most all of them transitioned over to GW2. Currently about 5 are active in GW2. Most of the guild moved on to Archeage. They didn’t even bother with the forums as they know what’s said and has been said falls on def ears. Other people just keep playing cause they can’t afford other games. Leaving GW2 as there only outlet for Mmo gaming, since it is BTP.
So stop saying the “complainers” are the minority until you see factual numbers!
Just like any government it only takes a few to represent what thousands want!
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I remember there being a lot of feedback, positive and negative, on the forums, but i’d assume that every MMO forum has more harsh words than constructive. Well WoW might not. Player’s may be satisfied with that game. I wouldn’t know; never really played it.
WoW has the same problem. Especially when the Devs leave the game in a year long content drought, while still docking players 15$ a month, to work on the next expansion.
The term “frothing rage” comes to mind.
Not to mention that forum community is smaller than actual player base…
ANet doesn’t release the actual numbers and we in the forums have no way to determine it…
OK so if Anet doesn’t release the numbers. How can you honestly say it’s a small percentage? Some people simply just don’t say anything and take what’s fed to them. Not everyone is going to say what’s on there minds.
I come from a guild in GW1 one of the top 5 largest in it. Most all of them transitioned over to GW2. Currently about 5 are active in GW2. Most of the guild moved on to Archeage. They didn’t even bother with the forums as they know what’s said and has been said falls on def ears. Other people just keep playing cause they can’t afford other games. Leaving GW2 as there only outlet for Mmo gaming, since it is BTP.
So stop saying the “complainers” are the minority until you see factual numbers!
Just like any government it only takes a few to represent what thousands want!
And not one single person from my guild has left of the game for Archeage. See how easy that is. Maybe for hard core PvPers who like open world PvP as a main game type, it might work but I’m not sure why anyone would think most Guild Wars 2 players would want that.
Not to mention that forum community is smaller than actual player base…
ANet doesn’t release the actual numbers and we in the forums have no way to determine it…
OK so if Anet doesn’t release the numbers. How can you honestly say it’s a small percentage? Some people simply just don’t say anything and take what’s fed to them. Not everyone is going to say what’s on there minds.
I come from a guild in GW1 one of the top 5 largest in it. Most all of them transitioned over to GW2. Currently about 5 are active in GW2. Most of the guild moved on to Archeage. They didn’t even bother with the forums as they know what’s said and has been said falls on def ears. Other people just keep playing cause they can’t afford other games. Leaving GW2 as there only outlet for Mmo gaming, since it is BTP.
So stop saying the “complainers” are the minority until you see factual numbers!
Just like any government it only takes a few to represent what thousands want!
Example case:
I’ve asked few people about mobs in PvE.
While quite many in forums say “Mobs are fine” and few do say that “Mobs are pitiful for majority of PvE”
In game, players have said that “mobs are too easy”, “Haven’t had engaging combat in PvE”, “Open world group content must be done with full berserker to get anything out of it” and so on. (While not exactly as this, but same general meaning)
Like government takes few to represent the thousands, but for GW2, we few in the forums are not elected and chosen by the thousands in game…
I’m a casual PvE adventurer, I enjoy combat, adventure and helping, but not farming.
I rarely do PvP or Hard PvE, unless it’s organized.
I rarely do PvP or Hard PvE, unless it’s organized.
recent changes indicate Anet has identified monkeys as their target audience. Incidentally, Western societies have turned into needy, instant gratification seeking adult children. So, seems like a working business plan to me. GW2 is here to stay for a long time.
dun worry, they will bring in vip system from gw2 china and it will revitalize the player base.
Um no. That will butcher the remaining player base in an instant.
There is nothing worth paying for in this game as it has nothing in the long run.
Ever heard of sarcasm?
cant tell these days. Forums are really dumb now days. You see these threads come up on the forums and you dont know what you can and cant take seriously anymore in the gw2 forums.
Was Matrix Online aimed at the hardcore?
I thought it was pretty cool. Was just a massive city. Professions were like hackers and gunslingers and martial arts experts with cool slo-mo bullet time fighting like in the movies. The missions and living stories themselves weren’t extremely difficult, however soloing could be troublesome (and very repetitive, same ones over and over). There was this crazy thing they never fixed where you could just chill outside the doors or elevators of the buildings the missions took place in and shoot at the enemies and kill them without ever having them attack you haha.
LOL. So just like GW2.
Since the discussion in this thread is not headed in a constructive direction, it is now closed.