Guild Wars 2

We usually buy outfits with gems, but weapons are bought through the (shady) Black Lion Chests and their tickets. If ArenaNet were to sell full weapon sets in the Gem Store directly, without the need of tickets, how much do you think would be a fair price?

Rules:

• We’re talking about a full set, not individual skins. Think “Tormented Weapons set”, instead of just “Tormented Axe”.

• Say the price in US dolars, instead of just in gems, so it becomes easier for people to make the conversion.

Would end up not buying the majority regardless of the price, just like when they made armor, because I’m not buying a bundle of a dozen items for one or two pieces I want out of it.

And maybe if they had fixed that issue with armor, they might have had sufficient sales to not have to cheapen the quality of the game cosmetics they produce down to outfits.

Fifty thousand Gems (or more). I doubt but few would even consider purchasing such a bundle.

Remember, bundles are not popular.

First of all I don’t think you need to ask how much you will pay for the full set, becuase most likly people will pick few skins that feets them the most from that set.
As for your quetion.
I think the for 1 weapon 400 Gems/5$ is a fair price (yea I know you said not the price of one). There are 16 weapons in the game (not including underwater ones). So 5* 16 = 80 remove 20 bucks of that (Because it’s a bundle) and you get 60 bundle for the whole set. GG

They wouldn’t sell existing items like that, but if they did, they would have an equivalent price to the current market value, which would likely be fixed at 80-100g considering carnival weapons. 100g is currently (from) ~566 gems ($7.08), so a full set of 16 would likely be around 9000 gems ($112.5).

If they were to sell new sets however, they’ve sold individual skins for 600 gems ($7.5), so a set of 16 would be at most 9600 ($120). As a bundle however, they’d probably drop it down to 8500-9000 ($112.5).

Ha! Evidently I can’t do math in my head.

Regardless, it’s not likely to appear in the Gem Store, anyway. And if it did, there would be an uproar.

What of the achievements that give you a smattering of tickets when you complete a set? Do you propose they still give those tickets, or that the achievements get modified? Either way, I think that’d change the estimated prices so far.

Also, would you have the skins bought in this manner be account bound so they cannot be resold?

~EW

I’m confused on one point: are you saying we’d have to buy the entire weapon set together, or would we be able to buy individual weapons?

I suspect it would be a bad idea to sell whole sets together because I think most people don’t buy them to complete the collections – they only get the one/s they like and want to use. If I had to buy 15 weapons I’m not going to use (and presumably pay 15 times as much for it) just to get 1 I want I’ll go without – I’ll find a different skin to get instead.

For individual weapons I think 500-600 gems would be a fair price. Based on the gems to gold conversion that would be about the same as the price of many black lion skins and also the same as many of the style items sold in the gem store.

But for a whole set that would be 8,000 gems, which would be insane.

Test.8734:

• Say the price in US dolars, instead of just in gems, so it becomes easier for people to make the conversion.

I suspect it’s actually easier for most players (especially those who buy gems regularly) to convert from the gem value to their currency.

For example I can remember that 800 gems is £8.50 and can work out other prices from that. I don’t remember how much 800 gems is in dollars because I never buy them that way, and with all the fluctuations in both pounds and dollars lately (especially since Wednesday) I wouldn’t even attempt to work out the exchange rate between the two currencies.

Danikat.8537:

I wouldn’t even attempt to work out the exchange rate between the two currencies.

It’s based on USD, so gems are simple 800 for $10. For exchange rates, simply use google to search: £8.50 to $

Healix.5819:

Danikat.8537:

I wouldn’t even attempt to work out the exchange rate between the two currencies.

It’s based on USD, so gems are simple 800 for $10. For exchange rates, simply use google to search: £8.50 to $

As I said I don’t remember the price in dollars because I never use it – the option doesn’t appear in game for me, I’d have to look it up on the Wiki to even see it. And my point about the exchange rate was just that it keeps changing, especially this year, so even if I looked it up it wouldn’t be applicable in a few weeks, or days.

It’s not that it’s impossible to work out, just that I think it would be easier for everyone to work out what it would cost them if prices were posted in gems.

I can go to google and the wiki and work out dollars to gems to pounds, or dollars to pounds directly. But gems to pounds I can do in my head in less time.

Id pay in Milling Stones

I can’t imagine anyone willing to pay current market prices for sets.

In any case, when I want a skin, I skip the BL chest and buy on the TP: there’s no RNG, the cost is less per skin, and I don’t have to worry about the excess garbage.

The BL chests aren’t “shady” — they are expected to drop junk and they do. The preview now even tells us just what sort of junk we should be likely to expect. Their value is entirely in the entertainment one gets from the moment before opening in which we hope we find the diamond in the rough.

Test.8734:

We usually buy outfits with gems, but weapons are bought through the (shady) Black Lion Chests and their tickets. If ArenaNet were to sell full weapon sets in the Gem Store directly, without the need of tickets, how much do you think would be a fair price?

• We’re talking about a full set, not individual skins. Think “Tormented Weapons set”, instead of just “Tormented Axe”.
• Say the price in US dolars, instead of just in gems, so it becomes easier for people to make the conversion.

Currently ‘recent sets’ go for about 700 gold on the TP. Recently discontinued sets cost about 2000 gold, and ‘expired’ sets for 5000-11000 gold. (‘recent’ = still offered for some number of tix or in the bl chest as a drop; ‘discontinued’ = no longer avail for tix; ‘expired’ = haven’t been avail for tix in ages).

The equivalent gem amounts are:

• Recent (700 gold) = 2750 gems (if buying with gold), 4000 gems (from cash)
• Discontinued (2000 gold) = 8100 gems (via gold), 11500 gems (from cash)
• Expired (7500 gold) = 29000 gems (via gold), 42000 gems (from cash)

Or for the OP who insists on dollar prices, even though half the community uses a different RL currency, 50 greenback dollar bills for things like the poorly-received Dwayna’s set, 120 bucks for the poorly-received Merciless set, and over 500 smackeroos for the poorly-received Phoenix set.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

In any case, when I want a skin, I skip the BL chest and buy on the TP: there’s no RNG, the cost is less per skin, and I don’t have to worry about the excess garbage.

I assume that’s what everyone does.

I never buy keys but I occasionally get them free in-game and from that I very occasionally get claim tickets. But when that happens I use it to buy a weapon I think is going to be popular and then wait until the price goes up and/or I need the gold to sell it. (And sometimes I get it wrong, once I bought a Gallant Greatsword.)

When I want a black lion skin (which is even rarer) I’ll buy it from the TP.

I do it that way because I usually don’t decide I want a skin until after a new set has come out and the one I want costs 2+ tickets. At which point it’s usually cheaper to get it from the TP (potentially with gold made by selling other weapons).

Limited time price of 4k gems.

I think they should put them in the black lion chests as a rare drop, but that’s just me..
Or maybe a rare reward tier from the wardrobe unlocker..?

SirPuddlesworth.6783:

I think they should put them in the black lion chests as a rare drop, but that’s just me..
Or maybe a rare reward tier from the wardrobe unlocker..?

They have done both (not for full sets; just for individual skins).

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

SirPuddlesworth.6783:

I think they should put them in the black lion chests as a rare drop, but that’s just me..
Or maybe a rare reward tier from the wardrobe unlocker..?

They have done both (not for full sets; just for individual skins).

And I’m betting since they still consistently fiddle with the stupid boxes that neither strategy was particularly effective in getting players to buy them.

If they had the wardrobe system from the beginning and if they had concept appearances then they could sell entire sets I believe. They did not and doing so now would be counter productive at best.