Guild Wars 2

After I created a replica of Scarlet Briar I managed to get myself into an interesting roleplaying setting, which lead to a big question: ‘What if Scarlet returned?’

It was, at start, just some silly roleplay with no serious means but ti started to get more interesting and bigger that I decided to expand it even more, but since I’m no expert in the game’s lore I’m really in need of help.

I’ve set her a plan, which fits(kinda) her mentality(what was left of it), but the bigger issue is… how in the world would she return from the dead? This is a really serious question, and I need all the help I can get. How could she return? I mean, there has to be a way, right? GW2 is set in a fantasy world with talking rats, dragons and anthrofied cat-like figures! Anything’s possible! Even in Game of Thrones there’s aways to bring someone back to life!

If nothing is found, I’ll just stick with the ‘impostter’ idea, which will suit more people.. but not me. I really like this character..

Maybe she’s the first Sylvari to go to seed, despite being secondborn?

There’s also the possibility of grafting. To my knowledge no one has said Sylvari can’t be grafted like normal plants. I can definitely see the Inquest being curious enough to try.

~EW

Become an Envoy and punch her way out? It worked for Shiro.

Maybe mordremoth could make a copy that looked like scarlet?

Or maybe the Scarlet that died was just an experimental puppet impostor and we have yet to find the real scarlet who is just steering us to kill all her dragon enemies so no one can stop her from taking control of the world.

Maybe she made a clone of herself by cutting…I mean she is a plant, so why not.
I like this kind of roleplaying stuff XD
I actually brought my dervish to gw2 keeping him alive with necro magic and brought his wife (my girlfriend Elementalist from gw1) back to life via the Mists and now she is a Revenant…
So, everything is possible

How about no. No. No. No. No. No.

The original Scarlett never died. The Scarlett we fought was just a clone. She’s not that dumb. She knew the heroes were coming. How else do you build a giant marionette in the mountains without anyone noticing?

at least I’d have a definitive reason to stop playing

Maybe she gets brought back by inquest scientists,while being upgraded at the same time..enter cyborg scarlet.

insert robot voice “die die die!”

hell,we could even have a showdown between scarlet-tron and hero-tron

I really liked Scarlet but no, she can come back as a flashback or a spirit but not as a main character anymore. Would not add anything to the game except more whinge.

You all do realize the OP is RP’ing, not campaigning to bring her back?

Deedrick.4372:

You all do realize the OP is RP’ing, not campaigning to bring her back?

Haha XD

Yargesh.4965:

I really liked Scarlet but no, she can come back as a flashback or a spirit but not as a main character anymore. Would not add anything to the game except more whinge.

It’s for a roleplay.

Funnily enough, there’s actually a possible way for the writing team at Anet to involve Tara Strong as Ceara/Scarlet Briar (or rather, as a kind of “resurrected” version of her) in a future story due to a certain line in Prosperity’s Mystery mission which was likely a lore oversight but which could indeed be expanded on. The notable line goes as thus:

Scarlet Briar: I’ve used a portal to send most of my steam creature prototypes into Lornar’s Pass and Brisban Wildlands. I no longer need them.

The thing is, however, that as far as lore goes, none of the steam creatures seen in Brisban Wildlands actually come from Scarlet’s lab, and the timeline for their appearance in said map wouldn’t fit either as the vanilla game’s Personal Story (and open world) events in Brisban take place when Scarlet has already moved on from creating steam creatures to forming her alliances elsewhere.

The two instances where we see stream creatures in Brisban are:

a) The “Split Second” mission in the the asura Infinity Ball storyline where it was later confirmed in a lore interview that those creatures, alongside the Grand High Sovereign version of the asura PC, did not come from the future but simply an alternate fractal version (essentially the GHS and his lieutenant and the steam creatures there are the Mists’s fractal anomalies showing in Tyria, so no time travel was ever involved, and the GHS simply lied about having come from a possible alternate Tyria’s future).

b) The event “Help Tekki fight off creatures swarming through the asura gate” in Duskstruck Moors during which some steam creatures appear from the asura gate, but it’s implied they’re drawn them from the batch of steam creatures in Lornar’s Pass and aren’t native to Brisban. Besides, if these were the other, Brisban-based batch Scarlet mentioned in her recording, we would be seeing invasions similar to the ones the Lornar batch accomplishes in Lornar’s through their own steam portals, yet we never see any steam portals or steam creature colonies in Brisban.

What this means, then, is that the story has actually yet to address what exactly happened to the batch Scarlet sent to Brisban Wildlands years ago since in the present day the steam creatures are nowhere to be seen in that map invading places unlike their brethren in Lornar’s Pass. Based on how Scarlet says her line, it seems the Lornar and Brisban batches couldn’t have differed significantly in number, and we’ve seen how fast the Lornar batch multiplied and became a threat, so a similar thing should’ve happened in Brisban.

So, here’s one wild fan theory that could’ve happened (assuming the writers didn’t simply make a mistake regarding the Brisban batch’s involvement): what if the steam creatures sent to Brisban Wildlands never stayed there for long but continued on into one of the so far unseen maps (like the map beyond the broken bridge in Northern Brisban where we see a portal into a new map that we can’t interact with even if we made the jump to the other side) and formed their colony there? What if this Brisban batch, unlike their savage Lornar brethren, actually “evolved” in programming and became more civilized (or at least more morally grey), instead opting not to conquer the world but study it and form a civilization of their own?

I could imagine this “good” colony of steam creatures being led by an improved Steam Brain (let’s call it Mother Brain) which could, eventually, build a mechanical steam creature avatar model resembling Scarlet, their “machine mother”, out of reverence for granting them “life” and sentience. This “machine Scarlet” could then be voiced by Tara Strong, thus kind of bringing her back.

If we want to continue with this admittedly stretched train of thought, there’s also something else in the lore regarding Scarlet that’s yet to be addressed. One of the items in the game from S1 actually had Scarlet’s message to Caithe which stated that someday Caithe would understand that Tyria needed Scarlet. What did she mean by that? What if these “good” steam creatures played a part in it? After all, the steam creatures are mechanical and thus can’t be corrupted by dragons or recreated as clones (such as mordrem), yet they’re powerful and sentient so they could be a powerful asset against the Elder Dragons. Back in the Twisted Marionette release we had interesting drops in the game, namely Scarlet’s Lockbox Code Fragment which eerily resembles Scarlet’s iconic cone hairdo. What if that acted as a hint that Scarlet may have uploaded her data into code fragments similar to these which could’ve contained crucial knowledge about her dragon research from the time when she was struggling against Mordremoth’s growing influence over her mind?

Just picture this scene: the Pact Commander discovers the hidden, “good” steam creature community and meets with the machine mother avatar of the Mother Brain in the form of mecha-Scarlet. The machine mother has kept all of Scarlet’s crucial research in her databanks and, after some convincing from the PC, shares this knowledge, perhaps even having the good steam creatures join us in our fight against the remaining Elder Dragons due to the creatures being uncorruptable and very intelligent. That way Scarlet’s prophecy to Caithe would come true in a roundabout way as well as solve the plot discrepancy about what happened to the Brisban batch of steam creatures in one big twist.

Not that I expect the writers to actually do something wild like this, but it is one possible way of doing it given what we know of Scarlet and steam creature lore. I for one wouldn’t mind seeing a “good” version of Scarlet, even if that Scarlet was only a steam creature recreation resembling their revered “machine mother”.

Scarlet is dead, which means there’s no coming back for her. Why? Two reasons.

First off, resurrection has become a nigh impossible thing. The only ones to come close to achieving it in the past 250 years is Gaheron and the Flame Legion – and they used the Eternal Flame, which is a magical artifact of still unknown origin, and wasn’t even true resurrection but putting a soul into a new body not the same one. The only one who achieved this kind of resurrection in the past was Shiro Tagachi (though the Lunatic Court tried for Oswald Thorn).

Secondly, there has been zero indication that sylvari have souls. Given their origins as dragon minions, this makes sense, as typically speaking dragon minions do not have souls as far as we’ve seen.

HOWEVER, there is a small caveat. The only possible method of bringing Scarlet back without breaking a dozen and a half lore facts is by arguing she came back the same way the Mordrem Guard Commanders did – Mordremoth used his domain of mind to transfer her mind into a new body. However, given that Mordremoth was not awake at the time of her death this seems unlikely to have been possible in lore. Still, there’d be enough wiggle room to allow this – but her appearance would be drastically altered as she’d be a Mordrem Guard, not a sylvari.