Guild Wars 2

If there was a new gear tier, how would you want it done?

An idea would be to have vertical progression leading to horizontal progression. Like working up new gear that doesn’t make you much stronger, but grants you a unique ability.

Perhaps they could have different effectiveness, like a aviator’s armor making gliding easier, or grants you a unique skill that, while not necessarily stronger, offers some horizontal progression.

Of course this could just be covered by new runes and such, but it’s interesting to tackle the trouble of gear grind other than just not having new gear. At the very least, I’d like something more meaningful than the current Ascended armor.

Would it be easier to get than the Bioluminscent set? I didn’t go for that one for obvious reasons.

GW2 should never get new gear tiers.

Whatever might be nice to have in items could be done via ascended runes with special effects or something similar.

ArenaNet have already stated they have no interest in making new gear tiers.

Giving you a unique ability would still be vertical progress of a sort, as you’d still be strictly better off if you had the new tier. Unless you’re just talking silly aesthetic abilities or something.

i think the only type/class of armor now should be like what they did in Guild Wars with infused armor for certain monters classes but in the same breathe they shouldnt beable to one shot you, only make the encounter slighty easier as you have been given training into that type of monster class so know its weakness

Adding different stats and sigil/runes to ascended gear, which will be selectable out of combat would be horizontal progress, i guess.

the only other option i would like to see for PvE is the PvP build structure so you can select the sigils and runes you have previously purchased for your characters and make builds that you can swap into out of combat but your armor stats for that version of armor you made will always be the same as what you made it when 1st crafted

A new gear tier I would like is the ability to merge gear to get sets with selectable stats.

Merge a chestpiece (example) with Zerker stats with one that has soldiers. You now can select between the two stats out of combat.

Merge that piece with a rabid chestpiece, now you can select between 3 sets of stats, and so on.

Maybe even be able to merge the sigils/runes on the items to have them selectable also.

if there WOULD be a new tier the only way you could make that work is calling it legendary, giving it the same ability like legendary weapons (means changing stats on the fly) and keeping the stats themselfes at ascended. Thats atleast my opinion on it

i think with this type of system using part of the pvp build you will still have to use the upgrade extractors to remove infusions from your builds so that wont make those obsolete

Basaltface.2786:

if there WOULD be a new tier the only way you could make that work is calling it legendary, giving it the same ability like legendary weapons (means changing stats on the fly) and keeping the stats themselfes at ascended. Thats atleast my opinion on it

They could have an exotic tier and an ascended tier, both with selectable stats. I think that would be an interesting way to have new tiers without a direct power raise.

Astral Projections.7320:

Basaltface.2786:

if there WOULD be a new tier the only way you could make that work is calling it legendary, giving it the same ability like legendary weapons (means changing stats on the fly) and keeping the stats themselfes at ascended. Thats atleast my opinion on it

They could have an exotic tier and an ascended tier, both with selectable stats. I think that would be an interesting way to have new tiers without a direct power raise.

Exotic too? But exotic is so easy to get…and i bet a lot cheaper to just buy the sets you need for your builds rather then to craft the “multi exotics”. Imo ascended would be sufficient…and ascended is more of a grind to make, so to take the bitter pill once and make “legendary\ascended” set settles your needs forever.

Wanze.8410:

Adding different stats and sigil/runes to ascended gear, which will be selectable out of combat would be horizontal progress, i guess.

Yes please! Mystic Forge recipe including Ascended weapon/armor along with ingredient x, y, and z = new item of same type with different stats.

hey… just came to me.. why not make a rune set that lets you change the stats. That would be extremely helpfull. Dunno… call it “shifting rune” and do the same for sigils.

skillze.7689:

i think the only type/class of armor now should be like what they did in Guild Wars with infused armor for certain monters classes but in the same breathe they shouldnt beable to one shot you, only make the encounter slighty easier as you have been given training into that type of monster class so know its weakness

GW1 actually does have armor tiers. See the table here for an example: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Elementalist_Flameforged_armor

It’s just not quite as obvious as in GW2 because they’re not colour-coded and most people skip straight to the last one using runners and taxis. But it’s the same idea – armour bought in higher level zones has better stats.

Basaltface.2786:

Astral Projections.7320:

Basaltface.2786:

if there WOULD be a new tier the only way you could make that work is calling it legendary, giving it the same ability like legendary weapons (means changing stats on the fly) and keeping the stats themselfes at ascended. Thats atleast my opinion on it

They could have an exotic tier and an ascended tier, both with selectable stats. I think that would be an interesting way to have new tiers without a direct power raise.

Exotic too? But exotic is so easy to get…and i bet a lot cheaper to just buy the sets you need for your builds rather then to craft the “multi exotics”. Imo ascended would be sufficient…and ascended is more of a grind to make, so to take the bitter pill once and make “legendary\ascended” set settles your needs forever.

One thing, it wouldn’t be a bitter pill once, I have 8 chars, some of which are wearing cultural armor. It would be a minimum of 3 times, one for each profession, and then there would be a problem with switching armors between chars and the look I want then to have and the cultural armor not being switchable between races.

For another thing, not everyone is going for ascended armor (I’m not). A merged exotic set would allow those people to have and wear one set that also has fully selectable stats. People already are keeping multiple sets in their inventory to switch between, depending on what they are doing, I have 3 chars that carry an extra set of armor in inventory for that reason. Merging them would free up inventory space.

Just as a question, how much would it cost in gold and time to make a full set of merged ascended armors with all the available stats compared to a merged exotic set?

A person with exotics can have as much need and want for selectable stats as someone with ascended.

Not only should there never be new tiers of gear but ascended should be removed from the game or converted to a purely horizontal form of progression.

Astral Projections.7320:

Basaltface.2786:

Astral Projections.7320:

Basaltface.2786:

if there WOULD be a new tier the only way you could make that work is calling it legendary, giving it the same ability like legendary weapons (means changing stats on the fly) and keeping the stats themselfes at ascended. Thats atleast my opinion on it

They could have an exotic tier and an ascended tier, both with selectable stats. I think that would be an interesting way to have new tiers without a direct power raise.

Exotic too? But exotic is so easy to get…and i bet a lot cheaper to just buy the sets you need for your builds rather then to craft the “multi exotics”. Imo ascended would be sufficient…and ascended is more of a grind to make, so to take the bitter pill once and make “legendary\ascended” set settles your needs forever.

For one thing, not everyone is going for ascended armor (I’m not). A merged exotic set would allow those people to have and wear one set that also has fully selectable stats. People already are keeping multiple sets in their inventory to switch between, depending on what they are doing, I have 3 chars that carry an extra set of armor in inventory for that reason. Merging them would free up inventory space.

Just as a question, how much would it cost in gold and time to make a full set of merged ascended armors with all the available stats compared to a merged exotic set?

A person with exotics can have as much need and want for selectable stats as someone with ascended.

got a point there…yea i see what you mean now

I’d wear ascended if I could buy it from the TP, but I have no interest in leveling the crafts I don’t have in order to make it. It’s really too bad that ascended isn’t tradeable. Most games allow crafters to sell their highest tier items.

Danikat.8537:

skillze.7689:

i think the only type/class of armor now should be like what they did in Guild Wars with infused armor for certain monters classes but in the same breathe they shouldnt beable to one shot you, only make the encounter slighty easier as you have been given training into that type of monster class so know its weakness

GW1 actually does have armor tiers. See the table here for an example: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Elementalist_Flameforged_armor

It’s just not quite as obvious as in GW2 because they’re not colour-coded and most people skip straight to the last one using runners and taxis. But it’s the same idea – armour bought in higher level zones has better stats.

I wasnt actually refering to the tier level of GW armor only the ability to infuse sets of it

Legandary should be the only “next tier” as it has identical stats to ascended (not even 5% more). The ability to swap between stat combinations would be the “unique ability”.

Astral Projections.7320:

Basaltface.2786:

Astral Projections.7320:

Basaltface.2786:

if there WOULD be a new tier the only way you could make that work is calling it legendary, giving it the same ability like legendary weapons (means changing stats on the fly) and keeping the stats themselfes at ascended. Thats atleast my opinion on it

They could have an exotic tier and an ascended tier, both with selectable stats. I think that would be an interesting way to have new tiers without a direct power raise.

Exotic too? But exotic is so easy to get…and i bet a lot cheaper to just buy the sets you need for your builds rather then to craft the “multi exotics”. Imo ascended would be sufficient…and ascended is more of a grind to make, so to take the bitter pill once and make “legendary\ascended” set settles your needs forever.

One thing, it wouldn’t be a bitter pill once, I have 8 chars, some of which are wearing cultural armor. It would be a minimum of 3 times, one for each profession, and then there would be a problem with switching armors between chars and the look I want then to have and the cultural armor not being switchable between races.

For another thing, not everyone is going for ascended armor (I’m not). A merged exotic set would allow those people to have and wear one set that also has fully selectable stats. People already are keeping multiple sets in their inventory to switch between, depending on what they are doing, I have 3 chars that carry an extra set of armor in inventory for that reason. Merging them would free up inventory space.

Just as a question, how much would it cost in gold and time to make a full set of merged ascended armors with all the available stats compared to a merged exotic set?

A person with exotics can have as much need and want for selectable stats as someone with ascended.

All with the same runes? TBH that’s why I would never really care about selectable stats. Heck I have 2 characters who I keep 2 identical gear sets just for 2 different rune sets (scholar and strength)

Jerus.4350:

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Basaltface.2786:

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Basaltface.2786:

if there WOULD be a new tier the only way you could make that work is calling it legendary, giving it the same ability like legendary weapons (means changing stats on the fly) and keeping the stats themselfes at ascended. Thats atleast my opinion on it

They could have an exotic tier and an ascended tier, both with selectable stats. I think that would be an interesting way to have new tiers without a direct power raise.

Exotic too? But exotic is so easy to get…and i bet a lot cheaper to just buy the sets you need for your builds rather then to craft the “multi exotics”. Imo ascended would be sufficient…and ascended is more of a grind to make, so to take the bitter pill once and make “legendary\ascended” set settles your needs forever.

One thing, it wouldn’t be a bitter pill once, I have 8 chars, some of which are wearing cultural armor. It would be a minimum of 3 times, one for each profession, and then there would be a problem with switching armors between chars and the look I want then to have and the cultural armor not being switchable between races.

For another thing, not everyone is going for ascended armor (I’m not). A merged exotic set would allow those people to have and wear one set that also has fully selectable stats. People already are keeping multiple sets in their inventory to switch between, depending on what they are doing, I have 3 chars that carry an extra set of armor in inventory for that reason. Merging them would free up inventory space.

Just as a question, how much would it cost in gold and time to make a full set of merged ascended armors with all the available stats compared to a merged exotic set?

A person with exotics can have as much need and want for selectable stats as someone with ascended.

All with the same runes? TBH that’s why I would never really care about selectable stats. Heck I have 2 characters who I keep 2 identical gear sets just for 2 different rune sets (scholar and strength)

My previous post said that this new tier should have selectable runes and sigils also.

Jerus.4350:

Astral Projections.7320:

Basaltface.2786:

Astral Projections.7320:

Basaltface.2786:

if there WOULD be a new tier the only way you could make that work is calling it legendary, giving it the same ability like legendary weapons (means changing stats on the fly) and keeping the stats themselfes at ascended. Thats atleast my opinion on it

They could have an exotic tier and an ascended tier, both with selectable stats. I think that would be an interesting way to have new tiers without a direct power raise.

Exotic too? But exotic is so easy to get…and i bet a lot cheaper to just buy the sets you need for your builds rather then to craft the “multi exotics”. Imo ascended would be sufficient…and ascended is more of a grind to make, so to take the bitter pill once and make “legendary\ascended” set settles your needs forever.

One thing, it wouldn’t be a bitter pill once, I have 8 chars, some of which are wearing cultural armor. It would be a minimum of 3 times, one for each profession, and then there would be a problem with switching armors between chars and the look I want then to have and the cultural armor not being switchable between races.

For another thing, not everyone is going for ascended armor (I’m not). A merged exotic set would allow those people to have and wear one set that also has fully selectable stats. People already are keeping multiple sets in their inventory to switch between, depending on what they are doing, I have 3 chars that carry an extra set of armor in inventory for that reason. Merging them would free up inventory space.

Just as a question, how much would it cost in gold and time to make a full set of merged ascended armors with all the available stats compared to a merged exotic set?

A person with exotics can have as much need and want for selectable stats as someone with ascended.

All with the same runes? TBH that’s why I would never really care about selectable stats. Heck I have 2 characters who I keep 2 identical gear sets just for 2 different rune sets (scholar and strength)

why not make a rune and sigil set like this too? Wouldnt be a stupid thing to have arround at all. Slap the runes on, choose the stats. Wanna change em? Remove a piece and put it on again and choose the stats again and all “shifting runes” on your armor take on the stats of the one you picked.

… I would leave the game.

I finished the sentence for you. Honestly if I wanted another gear grinder I would be playing it, as it sits I was not happy they added ascended.