Guild Wars 2

Then you truly are completely out of touch with your remaining players and you truly are not reading your forums. Seriously, even on every website that’s been pushing this news out you’ll discover that people are tired of the esports thing and we’re all waiting for you to do significant and sweeping updates to the PVE portion of the game, even pvpers in these commenter sections of these news sites are saying that enough his enough already. Even if it is an expansion they are all calling for a major overhaul.

In before someone says the word “Patience” for the millionth time. Seriously, don’t you think that players have waited long enough?

There is still alot of players playing pvp…..Most only post in the pvp section of the forums. This update is awesome as it will help prevent 4v5 or even 3v5 ! and you get a say in which map your gonna play on ! thats Great !!

masterJP.5048:

There is still alot of players playing pvp…..Most only post in the pvp section of the forums. This update is awesome as it will help prevent 4v5 or even 3v5 ! and you get a say in which map your gonna play on ! thats Great !!

It’s still not what needs to be done to help save the game and to stop the majority of players from reaching level 80 becoming disappointed and halting their play entirely nor will it bring back older players en masse to offset the losses. e-sports just like raiding is a very small portion of the community. It’s not even WvW updates.

Thus it’s an out-of-touch focus once again ignoring the major crippling problems this game faces in the main part of the game where the majority of players play.

We’ve been waiting for updates for every aspect of the game. At least PvE gets some attention every 2 weeks or so.

You’re complaining about the PvP “update” when in the ends it doesn’t add a lot to the PvP scene.

And finally, I doubt Anet is so low on people that they have the same team who’s workin on PvE work on PvP.

PvP and WvW need updates as well Tig. There have been just as many complaints in those forums too, and they deserve just as much attention as pve.

Some people are actually really happy about the upcoming changes. Others feel its at least a step in a good direction. If it lays a solid foundation for additional pvp modes, I’m sure others still will be ecstatic (when those modes come).

People don’t just play one mode of the game you know…

RedStar.4218:

We’ve been waiting for updates for every aspect of the game. At least PvE gets some attention every 2 weeks or so.

You’re complaining about the PvP “update” when in the ends it doesn’t add a lot to the PvP scene.

And finally, I doubt Anet is so low on people that they have the same team who’s workin on PvE work on PvP.

Also, this because it’s highly unlikely PvE and PvP updates are mutually exclusive.

There are different teams at ArenaNet that work on different parts of the game. It shouldn’t be surprising that their PvP team is working on PvP.

All part of the game need attention. Why being upset because there will be an update for 1 part of the game. This is not out of touch. A lot of ppl are playing sPvP. Just because you don’t check out the part of the forum that talk about sPvP, that doesn’t mean that nobody play it.

If you go through the profession sub forum, the vast majority of the post are about either sPvP or WvW. Not much about PvE build these days.

I dont care what people say about pvp. I love pvp and Im happy with this announcement:D:D

• <Adds up total updates to PvE since launch.>
• <Adds up total updates to PvP since launch.>
• <subtracts>

Riiiigggghhhhttt.

Im guessing this topic is in response to some kind of PvP announcement? could someone elaborate/post a link?

Dungeons shouldn’t be included in PvE since they are neglected just like WvW, and sPvP

masterJP.5048:

There is still alot of players playing pvp…..Most only post in the pvp section of the forums. This update is awesome as it will help prevent 4v5 or even 3v5 ! and you get a say in which map your gonna play on ! thats Great !!

Actually I doubt that. Those that don’t care about the ratings will still probably just abandon matches, making it 4v5 then 3v5. At least until auto-balance kicks in (unless its after one side getting a score >400) and then still have the 4v5 cause that player will then rejoin the winning side.

Gobble D Goop.4081:

Im guessing this topic is in response to some kind of PvP announcement? could someone elaborate/post a link?

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/announcing-improvements-to-pvp-and-the-ladder-test-season/

After the new season went live, with new areas to explore etc, it’s the turn of PvP again. We had to play one simple game mode over and over again, and still have to do that after this update. If there is one part of the game mode that needs an update first, it is PvP.

thanks for the link. That does sound exciting doesnt it.

Lunar Sunset.8742:

Dungeons shouldn’t be included in PvE since they are neglected just like WvW, and sPvP

Just like LS was until something press catching finally happened. Perhaps it’s time for another press catching Reddit thread to be created maybe then we’ll get some communication on the PVE direction or any of the plethora of fixes this title needs desperately even if it were to be in the form of an expansion or not it needs attention.

As far as I can see dungeons really are getting attention at this point because instead of opening a thread on condition damage, or one on rewards, they opened one on Raiding and hired people in for the job. So really where’s the love for the other more important things plaguing this game?

They can keep throwing content out there but really this game needs multiple feature packs to fix major issues to get back on track, issues the players have dealt with for more than 2 years now.

Whole game needs an expansion, PvE, sPvP and WvW, all game modes are seriously lacking new fresh content.

The PvP players have been ignored for most of the past two years except to get media attention with tournaments. They deserve to have new content.

I play all game modes and frankly wvw needs more love than the other two…

Op your post is self centred

Just face the facts. The devs of Anet don’t actually care about the player base. Sure, you see Gaile posting on here often, and I applaud her for her work, but how much affect do you think her insight actually influences the devs. If you go to the engineer subforum, there’s a post with over 1000 replies about giving engineers the ability to toggle their toolkits. When a member of Anet finally replied after a year (Gaile) they basically told her they have no intent in the near future of changing anything. I’ll probably get chastised for this but I honestly think the communication team on the forums is just here to give people a false sense the the game devs are paying attention. If a community had been begging for end game content and more PVE, why would you focus on rehauling traits to screw over new players and then overhaul pvp?

/endrant

Absolute Ze Woah.1074:

Just face the facts. The devs of Anet don’t actually care about the player base. Sure, you see Gaile posting on here often, and I applaud her for her work, but how much affect do you think her insight actually influences the devs. If you go to the engineer subforum, there’s a post with over 1000 replies about giving engineers the ability to toggle their toolkits. When a member of Anet finally replied after a year (Gaile) they basically told her they have no intent in the near future of changing anything. I’ll probably get chastised for this but I honestly think the communication team on the forums is just here to give people a false sense the the game devs are paying attention. If a community had been begging for end game content and more PVE, why would you focus on rehauling traits to screw over new players and then overhaul pvp?

/endrant

Completely agree because of how the CDIs have been setup for the next issue. It’s really not following the original communication we had with Chris before and during the Feature Patch controversy because there was a long detailed list of things that the majority of players felt before and after those threads, were more important and needed immediate attention long before they even got to releasing Season 2 content because they were essentially game breaking problems including rewards and PVE diversity/imbalance. (which was basically glossed over with the newest outrage which was the Gem conversion fiasco sadly)

Those things were ignored by Chris and the team and their next CDI was suddenly Raiding, which is why I think it would be beneficial if this were put on Reddit to get people’s attention in a medium they actually pay attention to really because they aren’t paying attention here.

Even with my complaints however I am thankful for Gaile’s communications with us because at least there’s someone here letting us know what’s happening even though as you pointed out it’s not doing much in the way of getting the team to realize what they should be focused on next apparently.

OP has to play pvp more if he thinks it doesn’t need an update. Enjoy the LS and get ready for an expansion(which is probably coming)……… PvP need some more updates and this one looks nice.

Dueling Plz Anet

tigirius.9014:

Lunar Sunset.8742:

Dungeons shouldn’t be included in PvE since they are neglected just like WvW, and sPvP

Just like LS was until something press catching finally happened. Perhaps it’s time for another press catching Reddit thread to be created maybe then we’ll get some communication on the PVE direction or any of the plethora of fixes this title needs desperately even if it were to be in the form of an expansion or not it needs attention.

As far as I can see dungeons really are getting attention at this point because instead of opening a thread on condition damage, or one on rewards, they opened one on Raiding and hired people in for the job. So really where’s the love for the other more important things plaguing this game?

They can keep throwing content out there but really this game needs multiple feature packs to fix major issues to get back on track, issues the players have dealt with for more than 2 years now.

Raiding is not the same thing as dungeons, and I don’t really care what the CDI, a lot of talk with nothing to show.

Lol I knew this was gonna happen when I read the updates. I thought to myself “heh, well they finally updated PvP a little bit…still nothing for WvW though. I bet PvEers are gonna get all kittenhurt about not being paid attention to.”

People need to just relax. There are multiple aspects of the game that all need attention. If you segregate yourself to one aspect of the game that’s your own fault. Don’t need to go crying when patches shift fire to those multiple aspects…ESPECIALLY not PvEers.

lolwut?

Pve has patches like every 2 weeks and pvp gets patches about every 6 months.

Also the pvp devs are not the same people as the pve devs so its not like they stop working on the rest of the game just for this.

3/10, just because this is so absurd its kind of funny

Yeah, what Leo said. I’m a primarily PvE player too, but I also dabble in PvP and WvW. Trust me, the latter two game modes have been crying out for attention too, and they’ve received much less new content than PvE has.

The PvP changes don’t seem major, but they cover a lot of what the PvP community has been asking for for quite some time now. I’m not sure if it’ll fix all the complaints, but I look forward to seeing how it shakes up dynamics. (I might even step out of my Hotjoin kiddie pool for once. XD)

I’m a pure PvE player and I fully understand that PvP and WvW need their updates too.

All aspects of the game need updates and it’s about time something other than PvE got the focus of a patch.

Seera.5916:

I’m a pure PvE player and I fully understand that PvP and WvW need their updates too.

All aspects of the game need updates and it’s about time something other than PvE got the focus of a patch.

Primarily a PVE player too but I like to try out WvW and PVP now and then. I do agree with you and have no problem with updates for other parts of the game to make the overall game better.

tigirius.9014:

Then you truly are completely out of touch with your remaining players and you truly are not reading your forums. Seriously, even on every website that’s been pushing this news out you’ll discover that people are tired of the esports thing and we’re all waiting for you to do significant and sweeping updates to the PVE portion of the game, even pvpers in these commenter sections of these news sites are saying that enough his enough already. Even if it is an expansion they are all calling for a major overhaul.

In before someone says the word “Patience” for the millionth time. Seriously, don’t you think that players have waited long enough?

Hi, i understand you like to PvE but you get bi-weekly updates most of the year. Sit on your hands and let the other communities that maybe get 1 update a year have their turn.

This is exactly what the game needs to bring new players into pvp imo. I’ve only started doing it lately but it’s very hard to get into atm. Hotjoin is a mess, with autobalance cheating, ppl ragequitting midgame, etc. Also the reward is terrible, which is something PvErs care about a lot.

Your other options are ranked combat, where you’ll sometimes get matched up against the top of the leaderboard or locked into a 4v5 which just leads to 10min of getting facerolled and you just have to sit it out. It’s very annoying and leads to me going back to pve because I’m tired of it.

PvE isn’t the only game mode that needs more attention. From my point of view the masses constantly get new stuff, new map zergings and farms. What they need to do is look at their loyal niche players once in a while as well (WvW, PvP, dungeon/fractal runners). This is like… the only real pvp update in 9 months and you’re seriously complaining they do too much for pvp?

Hoaxintelligence.4628:

I dont care what people say about pvp. I love pvp and Im happy with this announcement:D:D

Still seems sad though for pvp, pve and wvw to lesser extend have recieved new maps while pvp lost one and nothing new to expand on pvp like different modes with no possible positive hope for the near future for any true pvp updates

The updates certainly sound like something that will help PvP out. I tried really hard to get into PvP when the new reward tracks were introduced a while back, but I am a solo arena kind of guy, and the queues….oh man, how long I had to wait for matches. I eventually gave up on pvp. I miss RA back in GW1, that kitten was a blast and you rarely waited more than 30 seconds for a match. Ahh, the good ole days..

WvWers and PvPers wish they had half as much attention as PvEers do. WvW is a lost cause IMHO but PvP is still salvagable and this update has been needed for a long time.