Guild Wars 2

I agree with you. I was travelling in one location for about 2-3 hours today. I just wanted to explore it fully, see what I missed. I took part in every DE when I was travelling, read every text, chatted with every NPC… But as for LS, it’s great when we have permanent content like Techwaffle (one of the best things post-release, really). I think Twilight Arbor’s new path is not an exclusion as it’s – a) permanent – b) do whenever you want to do it – c) maybe what I’m saying isn’t really true, but I hope it is.

As a general rule, I hate achievements and champ runs, so I’ve been playing fancy-free since release and having a blast. That said, I still enjoy the LS—not because I have to but because I want to. Just to have fun.

Minus the bothersome achievements, of course.

I wouldn’t call it just an easy excuse to add new things to the store. The Teq LS that’s currently running was their way of explaining why the fight against Teq got so much more difficult. Which was in response to people going: the game’s too easy!

Since I play very sporadically, I’ve pretty much ignored every LS there’s been. I did do the start of Flame and Frost, but as someone who will jump from game to game in an instant, it was rolled out too slowly and I jumped to another game before it finished and didn’t get back until after it was over.

It’s kind of fun going around and seeing if you can take on that group event boss and win. Especially when you play a squishy elementalist and haven’t quite got moving while fighting down to a science. As such, I usually lose, but it’s fun trying, and it’s when you take on things that are better than you are that you really start to improve.

It is funny you posted this. I have done the same and I started at the exact same time. Up until SAB w2 I did all achievements from the LS and kept up with everything. It seems SAB w2 was the burn out point for many people in this game for some reason. I haven’t touched anything involving the Teq. revamp and going to Dulfy for achievements(since the game doesn’t guide you towards them at all) doesn’t really feel like achieving anything.

Yeah, anet is finally listening to people and adding more permanent content into the game…

I’ve stopped caring about LS and achievement points (cause let’s say it: LS is just AP farming and skins) long time ago.

Granted, you may have some issue into finding what to do, but you won’t regret it.

Well, ofc if a skin i’m interested in pops up, it’s time to farm…

Started partially ignoring it on September 1th and fully yesterday. It really is a good feeling

Tried to get the watchknight skin but didn’t have enough time so I missed it. After that, just ignored LS completely, haven’t even done Teq yet. Sold my precursor, got a Foefire weapon and now I purely play for fun … and unsurprisingly my time spent playing is far more satisfying than before where it was just farmfarmfarm.

colesy.8490:

Tried to get the watchknight skin but didn’t have enough time so I missed it. After that, just ignored LS completely, haven’t even done Teq yet. Sold my precursor, got a Foefire weapon and now I purely play for fun … and unsurprisingly my time spent playing is far more satisfying than before where it was just farmfarmfarm.

Play for fun and fancy skins, like GW1 good old days.
+1.

Tbh WvW would have been my main endgame focus trown in the mix, but the latest Anet decisions have pretty much killed any interest in it for now (also need better rig).
We’ll see in the future..

Oh, also ignoring Ascended. Like, if i get them ok, fine. But never farmed my back off for it.

I haven’t played a Living Story all the way through since Southsun, and I find it’s a lot more enjoyable to go explore the world and maybe join a party with a few random strangers along the way.

With the latest Living Stories, I find myself going, “Really Anet, is that the best you can come up with to occupy your players?” Even in Southsun I was like, “Holy crap, I’m already bored out of my mind and I’ve only been doing this for 10 minutes”.

If you have teamspeak, I find a lot of the new content to be enjoyable mostly by hearing, “Oh crap, fell of the cloud again. Anet finally must’ve nerfed my asura’s jumping to normal size for Asuras”. A bunch of funny crap goes on in Teamspeak when you attempt jumping puzzles.

Seras.5702:

I’m ignoring SAB v.2 and Tequat’l v.2. I gave Teq a shot just to see the changes (they’re good imo) but he’s permanent so I don’t care. I ran the crap outta SAB v.1 and ya know what? It’s not worth the time and lameness that is a return to 16-bit gaming simply for weapon skins that don’t match anything else in-game.

So I’m just playing GW2 right now the way I did when it was released. And I’m having so much fun again. I’m not worried about getting xx achievements done for a meta reward. I’m not following a champ-zerg train. I’m not hunting pinatas or doors or baskets for RNG loot. I’m not forcing myself to ignore all the great stuff Anet put into this game for the sake of a 2 week rush to get a meta or exploit a zerg farm. I even rolled an alt. I’m playing level 20 zones again nd having fun. I’m exploring areas I’ve never made time for before.

So if you’re getting burnt out from the constant LS, just ignore it once. Ignore one patch for 2 weeks and just play how you want to. You may remember how fun this game is when you stop worrying about finding 30 balloon towers and focus instead of joining those 2 random people who are doing DEs in Wayfarer.

Me too, and I’ve started questioning what the heck am I playing for? I got bored and haven’t logged in for days.

I took it a step further — I quit logging in 2 weeks ago, and it’s awesome. Without a doubt, that was the best decision I’ve made regarding this game yet.

I may log in again for the Mad King event, but maybe not.

Spiral Architect.6540:

I took it a step further — I quit logging in 2 weeks ago, and it’s awesome. Without a doubt, that was the best decision I’ve made regarding this game yet.

I may log in again for the Mad King event, but maybe not.

Poledo.3256:

Me too, and I’ve started questioning what the heck am
I playing for? I got bored and haven’t logged in for days.

AndrewSX.3794:

Play for fun and fancy skins, like GW1 good old days.
+1.

Tbh WvW would have been my main endgame focus trown in the mix, but the latest Anet decisions have pretty much killed any interest in it for now..

This is basically the same as not posting anything at all. At least try to explain why you stopped.

For me, I’ve kept on going with the Living Story and WvW/PvP because I enjoy the feeling of immersion and enjoyment of participating seamlessly in the world and events with dozens of other people.

To top it all off, the Dynamic Events are a wonderful breath of fresh air from all the other generic MMOs on the market. Even a year after release, I really couldn’t picture myself playing anything else.

So, why did the Living Story and/or WvW (etc.) drive you away?

Was it the lack of rewards? Challenge? Bugs? Prices? Entertainment value? What would make it more entertaining?

What specific decisions did the developers make that played a role in driving you away from certain content or the game entirely?

What specific features would you like to see added and/or returned to their former glory (features that might bring you back)?

What were your expectations that weren’t adequately met?

This is Guild Wars 2 Discussion. Let’s get discussing.

If you ignore every piece of content in the game that forces you to interact with other players, it truly is a great game.

But once you step foot into a dungeon or WvW, yeah.....

after i got teq wings I haven’t even attempted to do the dragon again. it sucks so I ignore it.

SAB wasn’t bad, I got a couple of skins cuz I thought a couple looked good but other than that I haven’t done SAB again.

I’m really just waiting at this point for precursor crafting. If it doesn’t happen by the end of this year like ANET said it would, I’m quitting, simply because that’s my only goal in the game right now even though I do enjoy the game that’s not enough for me to keep mindlessly grinding without purpose.

Undersigned, this may be a wall of text (I’ll edit when I’m done.)

The LS has been virtually nothing but RNG boxes and gem store whoring since they started it. At this point, I’m not surprised that many people are giving up on that. A reward system that only rewards you .000001% of the time, well, would you do any other activity at all if the payout was that seldom? Probably not.

This most especially applies to the newest LS, where the rewards are colour changed reskins of existing in-game items. Read that again – they’re weapons that are already in the game, but they’ll be blue instead of the current purple.

So, other than grinding more AP with the LS achievements, the rewards aren’t there. They could be – they could have done the reward system in a way which actually rewarded people (think GW1 endboss tokens for 1 weapon per character, or the current dungeon tokens for armour. Instead we got lottery style rewards. Lotteries are a voluntary stupidity tax, and rational people generally don’t take part – certainly not in any dedicated manner.)

For the living story itself – they’ve been, to be very blunt, poorly written. It’s been stuff tacked into the game, normally with little to no reason for it existing, other than for Anet to say “Look! We add stuff regularly! Look at all the content!” This would be cool were it fun content (F&F dungeon), but mostly it’s just more AP farming.

Honestly, I have no clue what the motivation was for anything in the LS. Dragon bash, because you always celebrate that which is going to destroy you. Everyone remembers the “National Socialist Celebrations” during WW2, right? Err, yeah, I guess not so much. Silliness.

Voting for a leader – lolwut? Why, and why now? Because, CONTENT! Yeah. Look, some steampunk pirates came from nowhere with a hate on for everything, most especially Queen Jenna. Now, after we dealt with them already, they’re back, because, CONTENT!

The F&F dredge uprising at least made sense.

I’ll leave off there, or else this will become a mutli-post wall of text pointing out the lack of lore-based reason for pretty much ANY of the LS content.

Finally, there’s the frequency of the stuff. We’re getting recycled story bits, over and over, so often that if you take a week off, whatever you were working on is no longer in game, and there’s a brand new set of unreasoned silliness to complete.

People can get burnt out on that kind of thing easily, as the (many) threads like this one show.

EDIT: I’ve ignored SAB, because to me that’s not content. It’s a mini-game in the game, and were it taken on it’s merits as a platformer and compared to existing games, it’d get, at best a 3/10. It’s a pure nostalgia driven mini-game, whose rewards are ugly and ruin immersion for anyone who enjoys the fantasy setting.

Theundersigned.4761:

So, why did the Living Story and/or WvW (etc.) drive you away?

Was it the lack of rewards? Challenge? Bugs? Prices? Entertainment value? What would make it more entertaining?

What specific decisions did the developers make that played a role in driving you away from certain content or the game entirely?

What specific features would you like to see added and/or returned to their former glory (features that might bring you back)?

What were your expectations that weren’t adequately met?

This is Guild Wars 2 Discussion. Let’s get discussing.

Have skipped the last two Living Stories entirely. If anything got accomplished for those it was purely by accident. Oh. Wait, I think my guildmates drug me out for Scarlett zone invasion. (Entirely memorable as you can see.) SAB was not even worth more than a thought.

Living Stories are the antithesis of an MMO. I don’t want pseudo-campaigns (can’t even be saved), I don’t want new mobs thrown at a reskinned or existing piece of world, I don’t care about the rewards (carrots, fluff, and an excuse for gem store junk), the lore feels subpar and shoe-horned in, has no direct bearing on me, the hero.. (yeah, I know I stopped being one when Trahearne hogged it all.) Where’s the persistent world? Oh. Being used as a backdrop for cheap fast-food content.

I don’t like feeling that content is catch-the-bus or miss it. Hello scene from the Wiz where the Wizard of OZ is setting fashion rules and gets everyone to dress in red, or green, or, nope, I’ve changed my mind, the color is gold. And they all comply like good little herded sheep.

I also have a 40 year standing policy of immediately walking away from salesmen that spout the manipulative closer “that if you don’t buy it now, you’re going to lose out.”

Three words that sum up everything I’m looking for:

1) Quality
2) Substance
3) Permanence

My guild feels the same. Any game that comes along at this point in time that can incorporate mobile combat and can deliver on those 3 things above will definitely be worth investigating.

-Broken record

yep kitten living story i stopped doing that garbage months ago

the teq update is great because its real content

It’s a big problem with the pace of the Living Story to be sure.

I know the reasoning is that the majority of the players would grind it out in one week, then step away from the game until the next part, and so Arena.net decided to pick up the pace.

My question is: So? How is this a problem? Wasn’t the entire POINT that players could set the game down, and come back without feeling lost? Arena.net really has this thing about getting as many people in game as much as they can… and it really doesn’t seem to be for the sake of the gem store, because if THAT was the case, they’d be lining up items that people would feel they NEED to buy.

You’re doing what im for the passed,,,, since like January. The problem is that when you do that, ignore their crappy “get these 150 achievements for this month while wp across the map and talk to 278 npcs” there’s nothing new for you to do. With every patch i ignore their garbage LS and the achievements that come with it so im essentially playing vanilla version of gw2 which is perfectly fine but when you’ve been doing it for a year its getting old. Currently doing teq and laughing at how poor its reward is but since there’s nothing else to do, im still doing it cuz, well, there’s nothing else in the whole game.

you know gw2 feels like one of those games that devs stopped supporting cuz its so old and not enough players are playing it to be worth adding new content. Its really sad that their biggest content of the year is a revamped Teq with three new attack animations and 2 trillion more HP with a 15 minutes timer.

yeah for the most part I just get a skin or mini or something (assuming they aren’t ridiculously tedious) and never touch it. The LS as a whole just doesn’t interest me.

Me too.

I have pretty much ignored this LS and for a completionist it wasn’t that hard to turn my back on.

I have found now that I seem to be logging in less, I have started playing GW1 more frequently and I have even restarted playing D3. The continual patching and changing of thinks that don’t need tp be changed has lessened my desire to play as much.

That’s better. Just do what you want to do. I try to do that too. It’s refreshing to go back to some of the sub 80 levels and just explore, gather some stuff, beating up whatever tries to hurt you along the way. Reminds me how I felt when everything was so new to me, back before the time-gating, back before the awful waypoint combat lock in dungeons, back when I didn’t feel pressured, and could just do things at my own pace.

My primary motivation has always been more along the lines of OOH PRETTY SHOES rather than any concrete sense of achievement. That being said, I’ve also given up on the Living Story achievements.

It’s an odd feeling – considering that I haven’t missed a single LS achievement to date, but I burnt myself out proving a point to myself by finishing the 8 orbs Liadri achievement. After that, I realized that I was really being led by the nose, and decided I’ve had enough of it.

I used to do all the LS stuff instantly – on the day it comes out. Now I just randomly wander Queensdale as a giant candy corn. It definitely feels better.

Caradryan.1795:

Now I just randomly wander Queensdale as a giant candy corn. It definitely feels better.

gonna try that as soon as I get home

I’ve ignored most LS. I mainly just went to the dungeons and Tequatl. What worries me though is that LS gives you a hugely disproportionate amount of AP compared to everything else. Of course by not doing LS others are racing ahead of me. This in itself i don’t really care about; the laurels, the MF, im not fussed, except i fear that at some point in the future idiots will start using your AP to determine whether or not they think you’re competent which could detrimentally affect us who don’t bother with the AP farming LS.

Second dose of Ascended was the the final straw for me, i gave up too, i only logged in because a friend asked me too for a guild event, was so bored after an hour i logged…

I have no reason to play another grindy treadmill game, LS never interested me, i wanted an “expansions worth of content” but we never recieved it imo.

If you’re focused on getting skins, the Living Story looks like an excuse to add stuff to the gem shop. If you’re not focused on skins, the Living Story is a way to get achievement points, which some people like to get and others don’t.

I don’t do all the LS, because if I did, I’d go crazy. I do the stuff I want to do. I wanted to do T’quatl and I did him. I don’t see any tie in between T’quatl in the gem store, unless you want to count the minis that don’t even count to your mini achievement. Big deal. Doesn’t seem like I have to buy that stuff to enjoy the game. If Anet wants to put it out and people do buy it, it funds that game. How does that affect my game play.

But I didn’t end up killing Liadri. That was too solo for my game play style. I didn’t want to sit there and bang my head against the wall to complain. I’d rather do dungeons or temples or whatever with the guild.

LS isn’t you do it or you don’t. It’s a range of options and you can do the parts that interest you.

Everything after Bazaar of the Four Winds and the Kiel vs Evon has been ignored by me.

I mean I get the achievement done because I want the tonic\watchknight mini\Liadri and now the wings of Tequatl, but after finishing the meta achievement, I give up. ..

Heck I haven’t even touched SAB since April and refuse to spend my time there, even if it is new content

I assume I do what most people do and that is blow through the easiest achievements to get the reward for doing the LS and then never touch it again. The content blows if you ask me. It is all very shallow, buggy, and annoying (Go find 30 scattered items on 3 seperate maps. Oh, thanks! I’ve always wanted to search mindlessly for hours. Praise be to Dulfy!). However, the only areas of the game I enjoyed previously were WvW and PvP and they have both become unbearable to play after recent (or lack of) updates.

i ignored sab back to school since i know the achievements can be attempted again.

i done the boss week one though since i know those will be gone forever.

did not rush it, only did one map per day, when i feel like doing it.

referred to dulfy guide of course.

I quite like the living Story but I take it or leave it as it interests me- I have followed what went on since the start but I can’t be bother with achievements just for the sake of it.

As for people linking the LS to the gemstore- all I can say is i have yet to buy anything from the store because of the LS.
I buy stuff I want, when I want it

This last month or so I have not spent a lot of time on the LS because I felt burned out after not getting the watchwork tonic that I really wanted but simply did not have time for.
Being locked out of the gauntlet because I didn’t have time for Scarlet also didn’t make me too happy.

I have been fighting Teq here and there and it is great fun but mostly I have just been running around having fun and doing things like exploring- doing DE’s fighting amazing battles with random people I run into on whichever map.
yes talking to npc’s etc.
I was so amazed to find that the skill point with the witch and the sidekick in Snowden Drifts had been fixed- same with an event in Blootide Coast where you have to save some Whispers agents from pirates.

So yes, just playing the game and not chasing stuff like a headless chicken is a lot of fun for me

Whatever makes you happy

I mean this in the most positive way possible. If stuff makes you unhappy, quit it. Unless you’re married with kids. Try to work that out first.

I’m pretty sure I got the Watchknight mini (or was it a tonic? — I guess you can see how memorable that was). The only piece of LS content I can say I found to be superlative was the achievement in Sanctum to get the 40 sky whatever thingies. I enjoyed puzzling out how to get to them. I also did enjoy the DE’s and the Molten Facility in Flame and Frost.

I am currently also taking a break from the living story. Sometimes it is nice for me to just chill out and run a dungeon, a fractal, or work towards a second legendary. The SAB and the Teq update were both great in their own way and a lot of people love the content but it is simply not for me. I tried the Teq fight and I hated how everyone was blaming each other and being bossy little kittenes. It was the same situation as the scarlet invasions. I am excited for the Twilight Harbor patch though and will get back on the LS train for that. But I agree with the op taking a break from the living story when it feels suffocating is a great thing!

Morrigan.2809:

As for people linking the LS to the gemstore- all I can say is i have yet to buy anything from the store because of the LS.
I buy stuff I want, when I want it

Its not that LS makes you buy stuff its that its an excuse for Anet to add more things i.e. RNG dye packs, Infinite Continue Coin, Boombox etc…

champ.7021:

Morrigan.2809:

As for people linking the LS to the gemstore- all I can say is i have yet to buy anything from the store because of the LS.
I buy stuff I want, when I want it

Its not that LS makes you buy stuff its that its an excuse for Anet to add more things i.e. RNG dye packs, Infinite Continue Coin, Boombox etc…

Not sure if you were around at launch but people were begging Anet to add fluff to the store for months because there was nothing to buy.
Now there is and people are still complaining?

It is not like you have to buy it, if you don’t want it don’t.
It is hardly an excuse to add stuff to the store- the store is what supports this game, you knew it going in- would you prefer they sold better stats in the store rather than fluff?

champ.7021:

Morrigan.2809:

As for people linking the LS to the gemstore- all I can say is i have yet to buy anything from the store because of the LS.
I buy stuff I want, when I want it

Its not that LS makes you buy stuff its that its an excuse for Anet to add more things i.e. RNG dye packs, Infinite Continue Coin, Boombox etc…

I didn’t buy any of those and yet I enjoyed parts of the Living Story. Bought other stuff, but the reason I bought them was unrelated to the LS.

marnick.4305:

champ.7021:

Morrigan.2809:

As for people linking the LS to the gemstore- all I can say is i have yet to buy anything from the store because of the LS.
I buy stuff I want, when I want it

Its not that LS makes you buy stuff its that its an excuse for Anet to add more things i.e. RNG dye packs, Infinite Continue Coin, Boombox etc…

I didn’t buy any of those and yet I enjoyed parts of the Living Story. Bought other stuff, but the reason I bought them was unrelated to the LS.

Seems you missed the point.

Azure Prower.8701:

marnick.4305:

champ.7021:

Morrigan.2809:

As for people linking the LS to the gemstore- all I can say is i have yet to buy anything from the store because of the LS.
I buy stuff I want, when I want it

Its not that LS makes you buy stuff its that its an excuse for Anet to add more things i.e. RNG dye packs, Infinite Continue Coin, Boombox etc…

I didn’t buy any of those and yet I enjoyed parts of the Living Story. Bought other stuff, but the reason I bought them was unrelated to the LS.

Seems you missed the point.

Seems like you missed my point.

I quit playing the LS and I haven’t played in 2 months at all. Tired of the achievement driven direction this game has taken and the absolute lousy story. Which wasn’t good in the first place (the PS that is, I love the dialogue in world). I liked exploring Tyria and I might come back when they release new landmass, but I’m very happy I quit playing this clueless soap opera item infused lightweight content.

I agree with the OP basically.

I don’t do all of the LS content. I didn’t do SAB v1. I gave it a try when it rolled around again this time. Tried a single zone, and that was about all I was interested in. I did’t rush to do the Tequatl stuff during it’s first week, I was enjoying leveling my thief, and just didn’t feel like doing it.

Generally speaking, I look at the LS content so I can catch the story involved, then check out the meta reward and if I want it, I do it. Otherwise, I skip it and go about my normal play. Or, in the case of Tequatl, I didn’t find the wings all that desirable, but just from getting most of the LS dailies, I got it anyway… shrug

I don’t stress over how many AP points I have either. Those roll in just from playing the game. I guess I’m just very laid back about how I play.

Theundersigned.4761:

For me, I’ve kept on going with the Living Story and WvW/PvP because I enjoy the feeling of immersion and enjoyment of participating seamlessly in the world and events with dozens of other people.

To top it all off, the Dynamic Events are a wonderful breath of fresh air from all the other generic MMOs on the market. Even a year after release, I really couldn’t picture myself playing anything else.

I stopped doing the LS because it didn’t feel immersive. Rather, it felt like joining a zerg to WP across Tyria to tag champs or kite baskets. I know the LS is supposed to be Anet’s tool for driving an ever-evolving story. The problem is the way it’s being implemented, everybody is just chasing/grinding achievements for meta skins.

Dynamic Events are the best thing in this game (along with auto-scaling). I was hoping to see Tyria evolve by new DEs replace old ones to reflect the changes we’ve made by completing the old ones. Alas, we’ve not seen this. Instead, we have everyone running champ farms and grinding ascended mats and grinding the current temporary LS meta. Nobody is playing GW2 anymore. And by that I mean all that glorious content the devs laboured to create before launch.

Theundersigned.4761:

So, why did the Living Story and/or WvW (etc.) drive you away?

Was it the lack of rewards? Challenge? Bugs? Prices? Entertainment value? What would make it more entertaining?

What specific decisions did the developers make that played a role in driving you away from certain content or the game entirely?

What specific features would you like to see added and/or returned to their former glory (features that might bring you back)?

What were your expectations that weren’t adequately met?

This is Guild Wars 2 Discussion. Let’s get discussing.

I’ve answered some of this above. What drove me away certainly wasn’t a lack of rewards. In fact, it’s the reward system that I think has made the LS content shallow. Or at least how the playerbase receives it. I was thrilled when the LS introduced a new permanent area (Southsun), even if they’ve let it become obsolete. I was thrilled when they introduced the Labrynthine Cliffs, even if they did take it away. I like the new zones, the new permanent stuff that is an extension of the original game design. The LS seems like one fad after another, rather than a true continuation of what they shipped in the GW2 box a year ago.

I’d like the LS to change the face of Orr, now that Zhaitan has been dealt with. I’d like to see new Order/Pact driven quests, now that they’ve shown to be successful. I’d like to see new DEs worldwide to depict our efforts over the last year. That’s what the LS should be. Not this temporary “ooh lookie…pirates” stuff. We kill pirates by the thousands to clear our way to epic baddies like dragons. But suddenly, they’re the big bad. I’d rather the big bad be actually, ya know…big. And bad.

marnick.4305:

Azure Prower.8701:

marnick.4305:

champ.7021:

Morrigan.2809:

As for people linking the LS to the gemstore- all I can say is i have yet to buy anything from the store because of the LS.
I buy stuff I want, when I want it

Its not that LS makes you buy stuff its that its an excuse for Anet to add more things i.e. RNG dye packs, Infinite Continue Coin, Boombox etc…

I didn’t buy any of those and yet I enjoyed parts of the Living Story. Bought other stuff, but the reason I bought them was unrelated to the LS.

Seems you missed the point.

Seems like you missed my point.

Woosh!

I think the living story is easy to ignore because it includes a lot of useless stuff to get the end reward. Who wants to hunt kites, dragon teeth, lost toys, pinatas, pumpkin’s to carve, etc… etc.. etc..

Some of it is really well done, but there’s way too much filler.

Or alternatively, the GW2 staff could spend time fixing forum bugs.

LOL, and I thought I was a weirdo for not giving a crap about LS.
Glad to see I’m not alone there.

The one thing I really really REALLY wish is a way to remove all the announcements and in-game SPAM from the right corner of my screen.

Some times I just log in to wander around gathering resources, and I couldn’t care less if:
- the Grawl have become more aggressive
- Scarlett minions are attacking some place
- if I haven’t done “Victory or Death”
…and a huge list of etceteras.

:)

SAB box is great. i havent played it for the achivements or the items but for the challange and the nostalgic feelings it gave me. about the rest, i dont care either as a wvw player