Guild Wars 2

I just noticed that I had a few Keeper’s Recipes on an old character, I was really surprised at the selling prices. I feel like I just found lots of treasure in my attic, whose prices will keep going up over time. The name fits too, Keeper’s(lol).

So let’s imagine for a second that Keeper stats were buffed and became more favorable than Zerker stats.

There are only 2 Keeper Visor Recipe available on TP at 299g-399g
There are only 6 Keeper Breastplate Recipe available on TP at 279g-339g
There are only 7 Keeper Warfists Recipe available on TP at 297g-490g
There are only 3 Keeper Tasset Recipe available on TP at 400g-890g
There are only 7 Keeper Pauldrons Recipe available on TP at 419g-750g
There are only 2 Keeper Greaves Recipe available on TP at 339g-396g

1) The total price to buy just the recipes to gear a Heavy would be a minimum of 2033g and a maximum of 3264g
2) There would only be 2 accounts in the whole of GW2 that could buy/craft maxed best armor on a Heavy(excluding those who already have the recipes to craft such armors), provided someone doesnt manipulate the market and buy all of them, and sell them 4000g apiece.

Would you then finally consider the game a grind?
Would you then finally consider the game pay2win?

I think we are lucky that Keeper stats are bad.

No and no?

For one thing you’re missing all the other people who already had and used those recipes, right?

There are only two accounts who could get the last remaining ones, not only two who could ever make/use that set.

Turtle Dragon.9241:

I just noticed that I had a few Keeper’s Recipes on an old character, I was really surprised at the selling prices. I feel like I just found lots of treasure in my attic, whose prices will keep going up over time. The name fits too, Keeper’s(lol).

So let’s imagine for a second that Keeper stats were buffed and became more favorable than Zerker stats.

There are only 2 Keeper Visor Recipe available on TP at 299g-399g
There are only 6 Keeper Breastplate Recipe available on TP at 279g-339g
There are only 7 Keeper Warfists Recipe available on TP at 297g-490g
There are only 3 Keeper Tasset Recipe available on TP at 400g-890g
There are only 7 Keeper Pauldrons Recipe available on TP at 419g-750g
There are only 2 Keeper Greaves Recipe available on TP at 339g-396g

1) The total price to buy just the recipes to gear a Heavy would be a minimum of 2033g and a maximum of 3264g
2) There would only be 2 accounts in the whole of GW2 that could buy/craft maxed best armor on a Heavy(excluding those who already have the recipes to craft such armors), provided someone doesnt manipulate the market and buy all of them, and sell them 4000g apiece.

Would you then finally consider the game a grind?
Would you then finally consider the game pay2win?

I think we are lucky that Keeper stats are bad.

You sir, have no idea what p2win means and it saddens me that you don’t even understand what the difference between recepies on the market and recepies in the game economy is.

Not to mention you can get Keepers gear without paying a dime from raiders chests that drop in fractals.

im pretty certain if that were to happen Anet would implement a reliable way to get them, and as such the prices would fall DRASTICALLY.

Also the stat combo is called zealot btw keeper is only the ascended version, you dont see people talking about zojja gear either do you? they talk about zerker gear

Even if it is the best gear in the game it is still optional. I am fine with this type of “grind”.
It could be considered p2w if gear is available ONLY in the gems store.

TheRandomGuy.7246:

Even if it is the best gear in the game it is still optional. I am fine with this type of “grind”.
It could be considered p2w if gear is available ONLY in the gems store.

And even then you could argue if it truely p2w in gw2 since we can convert gold to gems, so no need to pull out the credit card for it

yeah, and if the game had head-shots like fps, then sniper rifles would become a dear commodity. What´s your point?

As someone who likes experimenting and coming up with new builds, it can be quite stifling to have stat combinations out of reach. I spent a lot of time trying for keeper recipe drops and nearly broke the bank getting all the rest of the keeper recipes I’d need back when they were still dropping. And that was only for 1 armor type.

And I’m not going into fractals. Never again.

Turtle Dragon.9241:

I just noticed that I had a few Keeper’s Recipes on an old character, I was really surprised at the selling prices. I feel like I just found lots of treasure in my attic, whose prices will keep going up over time. The name fits too, Keeper’s(lol).

So let’s imagine for a second that Keeper stats were buffed and became more favorable than Zerker stats.

There are only 2 Keeper Visor Recipe available on TP at 299g-399g
There are only 6 Keeper Breastplate Recipe available on TP at 279g-339g
There are only 7 Keeper Warfists Recipe available on TP at 297g-490g
There are only 3 Keeper Tasset Recipe available on TP at 400g-890g
There are only 7 Keeper Pauldrons Recipe available on TP at 419g-750g
There are only 2 Keeper Greaves Recipe available on TP at 339g-396g

1) The total price to buy just the recipes to gear a Heavy would be a minimum of 2033g and a maximum of 3264g
2) There would only be 2 accounts in the whole of GW2 that could buy/craft maxed best armor on a Heavy(excluding those who already have the recipes to craft such armors), provided someone doesnt manipulate the market and buy all of them, and sell them 4000g apiece.

Would you then finally consider the game a grind?
Would you then finally consider the game pay2win?

I think we are lucky that Keeper stats are bad.

i probably have a couple of hundred keeper recipes left in my bank, so have plenty other players.

Edit: added screenshot

lol , keeper(zealot) worth 0 .. same basket as Shaman , Magi , Nomad stats ….. no real valid reasons to build ascended version of the mentioned stats .. the very few peoples who use them stick to exotic

Now they just need to make healing power cause bigger critz – gogo!

the problem is there is no way to actually obtain these recipes anymore. the chest drops isn’t a fair solution because there are other gear in there too, gear that can be crafted from recipes available to players.

they just need to find a way to put the recipes back in game

Taku.6352:

Not to mention you can get Keepers gear without paying a dime from raiders chests that drop in fractals.

-_-

10 kittenty chests since my last raider’s one 2+ months ago….You don’t understand I neeeeeeed this keeper’s armor

Turtle Dragon.9241:

Would you then finally consider the game a grind?
Would you then finally consider the game pay2win?

No? If that were the case, then the number would quickly become zero, and there would be nothing to grind for. Dead recipes are dead recipes, no matter how good they are.

Keeper is bad??? I missed that memo. I think it is quite good in fact.
And PS: I have a set. No recipes though. Thank you fractals.

Was checking the wiki and maybe there’s a rare chance for some of the Zealot watchwork stuff to drop in the Aetherpath too. We might be able to get it from some salvage materials that Aetherblades have a chance of dropping. Not sure, and its probably a lot of work for very little gain but I think I might try it this weekend.

MAGpie.7962:

Keeper is bad??? I missed that memo. I think it is quite good in fact.
And PS: I have a set. No recipes though. Thank you fractals.

Keeper has its uses in WvW. Pve wise it’s mediocre and outperformed by zerker or +toughness IF you want to go defensive due to the poor scaling on +healing.